Re: Anyone Using MVS Bulk Data Transfer (File-to-File)?
Thanks, Timothy. Maybe it's time for a reminder as I've been asked a couple of times recently about what is in z/OS. A scan through the "List of z/OS base elements and optional features" in Planning for Installation, where you can see also when it was last changed, might show some interest to folks. btw - you'll see that that the three BDT elements (one base, two optional priced), haven't been changed since OS/390 V1R2. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.e0zb100/baseel.htm Of course BDT is supported, it is part of z/OS. -Marna WALLE z/OS Installation and Upgrade IBM Poughkeepsie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Anyone Using MVS Bulk Data Transfer (File-to-File)?
Ed Jaffe wrote: >I didn't specify whether I was referring to the BDT SNA/NJE function >or the BDT File-to-File function. Clark Morris wrote: >I think that IBM dead ended and stopped support of the File-to-file >and all other non-JES3 related functions at least 18 years ago. Ed Jaffe wrote: >That's the kind of information I'm looking for, but can find no >announcement or other reference to suggest this product isn't >anything but 100% fully supported and fully operational. Skip Robinson wrote: >We considered using BDT many moons ago. NDM was the hands-down winner. >However, BDT still appear to be supported. Still required for JES3 SNA, >I believe. Ed and Skip are correct. In fact, the z/OS Bulk Data Transfer (BDT) products are not only IBM supported but also IBM marketed. No End of Service date, no End of Marketing date. The 2019 z/OS 2.4 announcement letter included the BDT products: https://www.ibm.com/downloads/cas/US-ENUS219-344-CA/name/US-ENUS219-344-CA.PDF Scroll down and you'll see BDT FTF (File-to-File) listed with the entitlement identifier S01728V and BDT SNA NJE with the entitlement identifier S01728W. That means they're available for ordering even to new z/OS licensees. - - - - - - - - - - Timothy Sipples I.T. Architect Executive Digital Asset & Other Industry Solutions IBM Z & LinuxONE - - - - - - - - - - E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Anyone Using MVS Bulk Data Transfer (File-to-File)?
We considered using BDT many moons ago. NDM was the hands-down winner. However, BDT still appear to be supported. Still required for JES3 SNA, I believe. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.e0za100/e0za10007.htm . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 3:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Anyone Using MVS Bulk Data Transfer (File-to-File)? CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL [Default] On 20 Aug 2020 13:31:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) wrote: >On 8/20/2020 1:14 PM, Clark Morris wrote: >> >> Any shop using SNA-NJE on JES3 needs it. Since JES2 didn't require >> it for SNA-NJE, my single instance shop converted to JES2 so we saved >> by both not having to pay for BDT but also JES2 was cheaper. > >Good observation! > >I didn't specify whether I was referring to the BDT SNA/NJE function or >the BDT File-to-File function. I think that IBM dead ended and stopped support of the File-to-file and all other non-JES3 related functions at least 18 years ago. Clark Morris > >I was thinking of the latter... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Anyone Using MVS Bulk Data Transfer (File-to-File)?
On 8/20/2020 3:52 PM, Clark Morris wrote: I think that IBM dead ended and stopped support of the File-to-file and all other non-JES3 related functions at least 18 years ago. That's the kind of information I'm looking for, but can find no announcement or other reference to suggest this product isn't anything but 100% fully supported and fully operational. If discontinued, what was it replaced with? -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Anyone Using MVS Bulk Data Transfer (File-to-File)?
[Default] On 20 Aug 2020 13:31:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) wrote: >On 8/20/2020 1:14 PM, Clark Morris wrote: >> >> Any shop using SNA-NJE on JES3 needs it. Since JES2 didn't require it >> for SNA-NJE, my single instance shop converted to JES2 so we saved by >> both not having to pay for BDT but also JES2 was cheaper. > >Good observation! > >I didn't specify whether I was referring to the BDT SNA/NJE function or >the BDT File-to-File function. I think that IBM dead ended and stopped support of the File-to-file and all other non-JES3 related functions at least 18 years ago. Clark Morris > >I was thinking of the latter... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Anyone Using MVS Bulk Data Transfer (File-to-File)?
On 8/20/2020 1:14 PM, Clark Morris wrote: Any shop using SNA-NJE on JES3 needs it. Since JES2 didn't require it for SNA-NJE, my single instance shop converted to JES2 so we saved by both not having to pay for BDT but also JES2 was cheaper. Good observation! I didn't specify whether I was referring to the BDT SNA/NJE function or the BDT File-to-File function. I was thinking of the latter... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
