Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-31 Thread Seymour J Metz
J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 4:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-30 Thread David Spiegel
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE > > ... as does the Terse format > > On 2019-12-27 16:37, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> The XMIT format allows for automatically creating the correct DCB >> information on

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:15:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Does AMATERSE let you terse an entire PDS? > From: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieav100/tseres.htm A PDS must be compressed to a DASD. (I suspect it must POINT to update a prefix

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
t; From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:42 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE > > On Thu, 26 Dec 201

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-28 Thread David Spiegel
t on behalf of > Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:42 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:11:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: &g

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
equ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 5:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:37:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The XMIT format allows for automatically creating the correct DCB information >on rest

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:37:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >The XMIT format allows for automatically creating the correct DCB information >on restore. > I see the requirement for "correct DCB information" as a weakness rather than a strength. z/OS UNIX files are more robust in imposing no such

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
equ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:11:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >A zipped XMI file is awkward, but it's the most robust. > zip utilities have inter

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 18:11:54 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >A zipped XMI file is awkward, but it's the most robust. > zip utilities have internal validity checks, so I don't see that a zipped XMI file is more robust than a zipped txt, html, or pdf. >...Besides, he' providing a valuable service

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 21:41:03 +, Edward Finnell wrote: >Well sort of. I trie

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
on behalf of Edward Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 9:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE I was thinking maybe a cbtnewslettter web page where updates to technological ar

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 20:25:32 -0500, Arthur wrote: > >>It's not obvious to me that a zipped NETDATA archive of an >>IEBCOPY-unloaded PDS fixed-80 member is the ideal format for a text >>document. But it does conform to cbttape.org conventions. > >It also tends to keep the management types away.

CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Sam Golob
Dear Folks,     Please leave the distribution of my articles as is.  If you want to see more of them, please think responsibly and don't post them.  Get them from where they are.  Thanks much. Sincerely,  Sam -- For

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Edward Finnell
I was thinking maybe a cbtnewslettter web page where updates to technological articles are posted as .pdf then when they're updated Sam could point us to the new link as a .pdf.  In a message dated 12/23/2019 7:36:23 PM Central Standard Time, wayn...@gmail.com writes: I like it where it is, it

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Arthur
On 23 Dec 2019 14:27:00 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<5007816406371788.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>) 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: It's not obvious to me that a zipped NETDATA archive of an IEBCOPY-unloaded PDS fixed-80

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
To quote Rick Nelson. "But it's all right now, I learned my lesson well. You see, ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself" It's a Tour de force. Good work Sam. I like it where it is, it makes me go there.and learn. On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 9:27 AM Paul Gilmartin <

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 21:41:03 +, Edward Finnell wrote: >Well sort of. I tried to post it as a .txt attachment and it was rejected due >to length. Maybe a happy medium is to subscribe to the CBT Newsletter. > Instructions? OK: http://www.cbttape.org/maillist.htm Is there an archive? Yahoo

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Edward Finnell
Well sort of. I tried to post it as a .txt attachment and it was rejected due to length. Maybe a happy medium is to subscribe to the CBT Newsletter. In a message dated 12/23/2019 9:31:25 AM Central Standard Time, bdis...@dissensoftware.com writes: It is not a binary choice. It can be both

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Seymour J Metz
<02abf4b7a103-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 1:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE For me cbttape.org just had a link to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cbt-tape/ and then I requested access to the yahoo

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Keith Smith
For me cbttape.org just had a link to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cbt-tape/ and then I requested access to the yahoo group and now I need a yahoo group ID... so I just quit trying. On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 1:27 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:23:14 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: >Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? > Why? Is cbttape.org inaccessible to you? >Sam Golob wrote on 12/22/19 2:36 PM: >> >>     I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting >> to read.  It

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Steve Horein
Very interesting! Great job Sam! On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 1:37 PM Sam Golob wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting > to read. It is on the Updates page of www.cbttape.org on File 120, as > member BM1912DE. > > The article talks about

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Binyamin AMV"SH, וכל המרבה הרי משובח א פרייליכען חנוכה Regards, David On 2019-12-23 03:23, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 02:47:15 -0500 Arthur wrote: > > :>On 22 Dec 2019 12:23:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > :>(Message-ID:) > :>t...@vse2pdf.com (Tony Thigpen) wrote: > >

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 02:47:15 -0500 Arthur wrote: :>On 22 Dec 2019 12:23:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main :>(Message-ID:) :>t...@vse2pdf.com (Tony Thigpen) wrote: :>>Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? :>I've read the article. I think Sam made the right decision;

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-22 Thread Arthur
On 22 Dec 2019 12:23:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:) t...@vse2pdf.com (Tony Thigpen) wrote: Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? I've read the article. I think Sam made the right decision; I'd be happier if things like that stayed on CBT.`

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-22 Thread Brian Westerman
I agree, that would be a really good idea. Brian On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 15:23:14 -0500, Tony Thigpen wrote: >Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? > >Tony Thigpen > >Sam Golob wrote on 12/22/19 2:36 PM: >> Hi Folks, >> >>     I've just completed a new article which you

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
Any way you could just put a copy in a post to this list? Tony Thigpen Sam Golob wrote on 12/22/19 2:36 PM: Hi Folks,     I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting to read.  It is on the Updates page of www.cbttape.org on File 120, as member BM1912DE.     The

CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-22 Thread Sam Golob
Hi Folks,     I've just completed a new article which you might find interesting to read.  It is on the Updates page of www.cbttape.org on File 120, as member BM1912DE.     The article talks about some newer programs, many of which I have had a part in writing.  In all likelihood, you have