Re: DFHSM APIs in a multi-vendor world

2020-08-04 Thread Marjory Montgomery
Hi Kirk,
   I'm a little late to your question.  CA Disk doesn't have any commands to 
delete migrated(archived) data set records if that's what you were looking for. 
 Do you need to delete  the catalog entry and/or the records for it?I'm 
concerned that deleting either could be a problem if customers are expecting 
the SMS management class rules to used for deletion.  

Regards,
Marjory Montgomery
Principal Architect, CA Disk 

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Re: DFHSM APIs in a multi-vendor world

2020-02-21 Thread Kirk Wolf
The same environment requirements as the ARCHDEL assembler macro would be
fine.
Batch or OMVS (not TSO, not CICS, etc).

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:40 AM Timothy Sipples  wrote:

> Kirk Wolf wrote:
> >I could deal with some configuration of the pseudo-volser,
> >but our product doesn't run under TSO, so a "command"
> >interface isn't convenient.
>
> What runtime environment and programming language are you using?
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Re: DFHSM APIs in a multi-vendor world

2020-02-21 Thread Timothy Sipples
Kirk Wolf wrote:
>I could deal with some configuration of the pseudo-volser,
>but our product doesn't run under TSO, so a "command"
>interface isn't convenient.

What runtime environment and programming language are you using?

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Re: DFHSM APIs in a multi-vendor world

2020-02-20 Thread Gord Tomlin

On 2020-02-20 13:34, Kirk Wolf wrote:

I was hoping that somehow these products
worked with application code written to the DFHSM macros.


Unfortunately, there's nothing in this space analogous to RACROUTE for 
security products. If there was, it would probably be paywalled in the 
DFSMS ACG.


You'll need unique code for each product. I haven't worked with the 
alternatives to DFHSM, so I don't know whether the other products also 
have macro interfaces.


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Re: DFHSM APIs in a multi-vendor world

2020-02-20 Thread Kirk Wolf
That's what I feared.   I could deal with some configuration of the
pseudo-volser, but our product doesn't run under TSO, so a "command"
interface isn't convenient.I was hoping that somehow these products
worked with application code written to the DFHSM macros.   ARCHDEL is the
most important.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:16 AM Tom Conley 
wrote:

> On 2/19/2020 2:25 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
> > I'm asking this from the point of view of an architect who wants to add
> > DFHSM-ish integration to a ISV product.
> >
> > If I were only worried about DFHSM, my requirements for basic integration
> > are pretty simple, and would be these:
> >
> > - VOL=SER=MIGRAT  means migrated data set
> > - ARCHMIG, ARCHRCAL, ARCHDEL  macros could be used for basic interfaces
> >
> > What about alternative vendor DFHSM products?  Can these same interfaces
> be
> > used in a SAF-esque sort of way?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Kirk Wolf
> > Dovetailed Technologies
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> Kirk,
>
> You need to know the pseudo-volser that each HSM-like product
> (FDR/ABR, CA-Disk, etc.) uses in the catalog to delineate a migrated
> dataset (MIGRAT, ARCHIV, and ARCIVE are the ones I've seen).  You will
> also need to issue the product-specific commands under the covers.
>
> Regards,
> Tom Conley
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Re: DFHSM APIs in a multi-vendor world

2020-02-20 Thread Tom Conley

On 2/19/2020 2:25 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:

I'm asking this from the point of view of an architect who wants to add
DFHSM-ish integration to a ISV product.

If I were only worried about DFHSM, my requirements for basic integration
are pretty simple, and would be these:

- VOL=SER=MIGRAT  means migrated data set
- ARCHMIG, ARCHRCAL, ARCHDEL  macros could be used for basic interfaces

What about alternative vendor DFHSM products?  Can these same interfaces be
used in a SAF-esque sort of way?

Thanks in advance,

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

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Kirk,

You need to know the pseudo-volser that each HSM-like product
(FDR/ABR, CA-Disk, etc.) uses in the catalog to delineate a migrated 
dataset (MIGRAT, ARCHIV, and ARCIVE are the ones I've seen).  You will 
also need to issue the product-specific commands under the covers.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: DFHSM APIs in a multi-vendor world

2020-02-19 Thread Allan Staller
All of the hsm-ish products I am aware of, use a pseudo volser similar to dfHSM.

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I'm asking this from the point of view of an architect who wants to add 
DFHSM-ish integration to a ISV product.

If I were only worried about DFHSM, my requirements for basic integration are 
pretty simple, and would be these:

- VOL=SER=MIGRAT  means migrated data set
- ARCHMIG, ARCHRCAL, ARCHDEL  macros could be used for basic interfaces

What about alternative vendor DFHSM products?  Can these same interfaces be 
used in a SAF-esque sort of way?

Thanks in advance,

Kirk Wolf
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DFHSM APIs in a multi-vendor world

2020-02-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
I'm asking this from the point of view of an architect who wants to add
DFHSM-ish integration to a ISV product.

If I were only worried about DFHSM, my requirements for basic integration
are pretty simple, and would be these:

- VOL=SER=MIGRAT  means migrated data set
- ARCHMIG, ARCHRCAL, ARCHDEL  macros could be used for basic interfaces

What about alternative vendor DFHSM products?  Can these same interfaces be
used in a SAF-esque sort of way?

Thanks in advance,

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

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