Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-06 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:51:28 -0600, Bill Godfrey bgodfrey...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:21:01 -0600, Bill Godfrey wrote:

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 18:15:07 +, David Booher wrote:

I have noticed when you are transferring a windows file containing a not 
character (x'AC') using ASCII transfer to the mainframe, it gets converted 
to
backslash ( \ x'B7') when stored.

Is there any way to get the extended Windows ASCII characters to transfer 
correctly?

I suspect that the default SBDATACONN at your site is (1047,IBM-850), which 
would translate x'AC' (which is the 1/4 character in codepage 850) to x'B7' 
(which is the 1/4 character in code page 1047).

If you use quote site sbdataconn=(IBM-1047,ISO8859-1) (if your transfer is 
started from the windows end) then x'AC' will be translated to x'E0' which is 
the not character in codepage 1047.

Correction: to x'B0' which is the not character in codepage 1047.


I don't know which codepage you have that tells you x'B7' is a backslash.



I assumed you were using FTP, but now I see you never mentioned FTP.
If your file transfer is being done by your 3270 terminal program using 
IND$FILE, then I don't know of any options for that method that would make it 
use a different translate table than the built-in one that translates x'AC' to 
x'B7'.

Bill

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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-06 Thread David Booher
Yes, I need to pay more attention to the hex it is being translated to -vs- the 
characters I'm seeing because the emulator does play a role here as well.   

Thanks.

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There are two layers here. You can't say it gets converted to a backslash. More 
correctly it hets translated to a code point that your emulator displays as a 
backslash.

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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In blu437-smtp45b638807eb09d048f7494da...@phx.gbl, on 03/05/2015
   at 12:53 PM, Tony's Outlook via Mozilla tbabo...@outlook.com
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Apart from some occasional flames, IBM-MAIN is nothing but a large
FAQ.

Too large to be a FAQ, and too many obscure questions[1].

What am I missing here?

The size, for one. A FAQ is is small document, limited to frequent
questions. It is not a compilation of every question ever asked,
including those that are relevant[1] only for a short window.

[1] Questions that are only relevant for a brief window or that are
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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
08ef7d7816b3b642a380513303a2d77b45b03...@alvmbxw01.prod.quest.corp,
on 03/05/2015
   at 06:15 PM, David Booher david.boo...@software.dell.com said:


I have noticed when you are transferring a windows file

What code page are you using on windoze

containing a not character ( ¬ x'AC') using ASCII transfer to 
the mainframe, it gets converted to backslash ( \ x'B7') 
when stored.

Does it als translate '5C' (\) to 'B7' (\)?

Is there any way to get the extended Windows ASCII characters to
transfer correctly?

What translate table did you specify? Exactly what FTP commands did
you use?
 
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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread David Booher
Thank you for providing a very tactful and useful answer. 

Dave


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You can look some table sample in TCPIP.SEZATCPX  has many source tables and
you can add one for you

You can use CONVXLAT to create an image to load and normally you can save it
as TCPIP.STANDARD.TCPXLBIN or  TCPIP.yourname.TCPXLBIN

Here the JCL,   You have some FTP command that load or you can put in
TCPIP.FTP.DATA

//ST1   EXEC  PGM=CONVXLAT,  
//   PARM='''TCPIP.SEZATCPX(US)'' ''TCPIP.US.TCPXLBIN''' 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   
//SYSIN DD DUMMY,BLKSIZE=80  
//   

Giovanni
System programmer

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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 10:34:55 -0800, Bill Johnson wrote:

1208 might be the best bet.

 
That's UTF-8, which might well be the best bet (would be for Linux).
Also look at the SBDATACONN and MBDATACONN commands.

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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 18:15:07 +, David Booher wrote:

I have noticed when you are transferring a windows file containing a not 
character (x'AC') using ASCII transfer to the mainframe, it gets converted to
backslash ( \ x'B7') when stored.

Is there any way to get the extended Windows ASCII characters to transfer 
correctly?

I suspect that the default SBDATACONN at your site is (1047,IBM-850), which 
would translate x'AC' (which is the 1/4 character in codepage 850) to x'B7' 
(which is the 1/4 character in code page 1047).

If you use quote site sbdataconn=(IBM-1047,ISO8859-1) (if your transfer is 
started from the windows end) then x'AC' will be translated to x'E0' which is 
the not character in codepage 1047.

I don't know which codepage you have that tells you x'B7' is a backslash.

Bill 

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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:21:01 -0600, Bill Godfrey wrote:

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 18:15:07 +, David Booher wrote:

I have noticed when you are transferring a windows file containing a not 
character (x'AC') using ASCII transfer to the mainframe, it gets converted to
backslash ( \ x'B7') when stored.

Is there any way to get the extended Windows ASCII characters to transfer 
correctly?

I suspect that the default SBDATACONN at your site is (1047,IBM-850), which 
would translate x'AC' (which is the 1/4 character in codepage 850) to x'B7' 
(which is the 1/4 character in code page 1047).

If you use quote site sbdataconn=(IBM-1047,ISO8859-1) (if your transfer is 
started from the windows end) then x'AC' will be translated to x'E0' which is 
the not character in codepage 1047.

Correction: to x'B0' which is the not character in codepage 1047.


I don't know which codepage you have that tells you x'B7' is a backslash.


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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread Charles Mills


There are two layers here. You can't say it gets converted to a backslash. More 
correctly it hets translated to a code point that your emulator displays as a 
backslash.


CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity

 Original message 
From: Bill Godfrey bgodfrey...@gmail.com 
Date: 03/05/2015  3:21 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC 

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 18:15:07 +, David Booher wrote:

I have noticed when you are transferring a windows file containing a not 
character (x'AC') using ASCII transfer to the mainframe, it gets converted to
backslash ( \ x'B7') when stored.

Is there any way to get the extended Windows ASCII characters to transfer 
correctly?

I suspect that the default SBDATACONN at your site is (1047,IBM-850), which 
would translate x'AC' (which is the 1/4 character in codepage 850) to x'B7' 
(which is the 1/4 character in code page 1047).

If you use quote site sbdataconn=(IBM-1047,ISO8859-1) (if your transfer is 
started from the windows end) then x'AC' will be translated to x'E0' which is 
the not character in codepage 1047.

I don't know which codepage you have that tells you x'B7' is a backslash.

Bill 

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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Johnson
1208 might be the best bet.

On Thu, 3/5/15, David Booher david.boo...@software.dell.com wrote:

 Subject: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015, 1:15 PM
 
 I have noticed when you are
 transferring a windows file containing a not character (
 ¬ x'AC') using ASCII transfer to the mainframe, it gets
 converted to
 backslash ( \ x'B7') when stored.
 
 Is there any way to get the extended Windows ASCII
 characters to transfer correctly?
 David Booher
 Mainframe Systems Programmer
 Dell | Database Management, Quest Software
 office +1 630-836-3196, fax +1 630-836-4099
 
 Quest Software is now a part of Dell
 
 
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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread Charles Mills
We need an IBM-MAIN FAQ.

Charles

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1208 might be the best bet.

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FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread David Booher
I have noticed when you are transferring a windows file containing a not 
character ( ¬ x'AC') using ASCII transfer to the mainframe, it gets converted 
to
backslash ( \ x'B7') when stored.

Is there any way to get the extended Windows ASCII characters to transfer 
correctly?
David Booher
Mainframe Systems Programmer
Dell | Database Management, Quest Software
office +1 630-836-3196, fax +1 630-836-4099

Quest Software is now a part of Dell


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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread גדי בן אבי
Sounds like a translation table problem.
There are many built in translation tables, and if none of those doesn't work, 
you can create your own.
Look for the CONVXLAT command.
Gadi


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Subject: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

I have noticed when you are transferring a windows file containing a not 
character ( ¬ x'AC') using ASCII transfer to the mainframe, it gets converted 
to
backslash ( \ x'B7') when stored.

Is there any way to get the extended Windows ASCII characters to transfer 
correctly?
David Booher
Mainframe Systems Programmer
Dell | Database Management, Quest Software
office +1 630-836-3196, fax +1 630-836-4099

Quest Software is now a part of Dell


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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Johnson
You need to use the proper CCSID. 



On Thu, 3/5/15, David Booher david.boo...@software.dell.com wrote:

 Subject: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015, 1:15 PM
 
 I have noticed when you are
 transferring a windows file containing a not character (
 ¬ x'AC') using ASCII transfer to the mainframe, it gets
 converted to
 backslash ( \ x'B7') when stored.
 
 Is there any way to get the extended Windows ASCII
 characters to transfer correctly?
 David Booher
 Mainframe Systems Programmer
 Dell | Database Management, Quest Software
 office +1 630-836-3196, fax +1 630-836-4099
 
 Quest Software is now a part of Dell
 
 
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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread Tony's Outlook via Mozilla
Apart from some occasional flames, IBM-MAIN is nothing but a large FAQ. 
 What am I missing here?





On 3/5/2015 12:47 PM, Charles Mills wrote:

We need an IBM-MAIN FAQ.

Charles

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1208 might be the best bet.

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Re: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

2015-03-05 Thread Giovanni Bozzetti
You can look some table sample in TCPIP.SEZATCPX  has many source tables and
you can add one for you

You can use CONVXLAT to create an image to load and normally you can save it
as TCPIP.STANDARD.TCPXLBIN or  TCPIP.yourname.TCPXLBIN

Here the JCL,   You have some FTP command that load or you can put in
TCPIP.FTP.DATA

//ST1   EXEC  PGM=CONVXLAT,  
//   PARM='''TCPIP.SEZATCPX(US)'' ''TCPIP.US.TCPXLBIN''' 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   
//SYSIN DD DUMMY,BLKSIZE=80  
//   

Giovanni
System programmer

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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 03:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: FTP conversion Extended ASCII to EBCDIC

I have noticed when you are transferring a windows file containing a not
character ( ¬ x'AC') using ASCII transfer to the mainframe, it gets
converted to backslash ( \ x'B7') when stored.

Is there any way to get the extended Windows ASCII characters to transfer
correctly?
David Booher
Mainframe Systems Programmer
Dell | Database Management, Quest Software office +1 630-836-3196, fax +1
630-836-4099

Quest Software is now a part of Dell


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