Re: GRSRNL Example

2020-06-30 Thread Norman Hollander
I don't have a need to re-invent the Bible, so Sam's word (has always been) is 
good for me... 😊

zN

 

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On 6/30/2020 1:52 PM, Knutson, Samuel wrote:

> GRS User Experiences Converting all Reserves Plus Best Practice Tips 

> and Tricks

>  <https://www.share.org/p/do/sd/topic=50&sid=3961> 
> https://www.share.org/p/do/sd/topic=50&sid=3961

> 

> Circa 2008 but mostly still relevant.

> 

> Thanks, Sam

> 

 

Sam's session is THE BIBLE on converting GRS reserves.  I used it in all my GRS 
sites.

 

Regards,

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Re: GRSRNL Example

2020-06-30 Thread Tom Conley

On 6/30/2020 1:52 PM, Knutson, Samuel wrote:

GRS User Experiences Converting all Reserves Plus Best Practice Tips and Tricks
https://www.share.org/p/do/sd/topic=50&sid=3961

Circa 2008 but mostly still relevant.

Thanks, Sam



Sam's session is THE BIBLE on converting GRS reserves.  I used it in all 
my GRS sites.


Regards,
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Re: GRSRNL Example

2020-06-30 Thread Norman Hollander
Everything old is new again...  Hope y’all are well!  Thanks Sam. 


Sent from my iPad.   I take no responsibility for autocorrect...

On Jun 30, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Knutson, Samuel  
wrote:

GRS User Experiences Converting all Reserves Plus Best Practice Tips and Tricks
https://www.share.org/p/do/sd/topic=50&sid=3961

Circa 2008 but mostly still relevant.

Thanks, Sam

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Been a while since I've done this.  Anyone have a good example of a GRSRNL for 
a Sysplex?  DASD only shared among the Sysplex members.
TIA!
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Re: GRSRNL Example

2020-06-30 Thread Knutson, Samuel
GRS User Experiences Converting all Reserves Plus Best Practice Tips and Tricks
https://www.share.org/p/do/sd/topic=50&sid=3961

Circa 2008 but mostly still relevant.

Thanks, Sam

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Been a while since I've done this.  Anyone have a good example of a GRSRNL for 
a Sysplex?  DASD only shared among the Sysplex members.
TIA!
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Re: FW: GRSRNL Example

2020-06-29 Thread Norman Hollander
Thanks Tom.
There are some (old) memory fragments telling me that.
There are a lot of defaults, and a lot of quirks.  IIRC, if you change the name 
of DAE (such as DAESHR, which btw, can only be a max of 28 character), you 
should not include the new name.
There used to be a list of the "quirks" someplace.  Not sure if there was a 
Redbook or a WSC whitepaper/flash.  Like I said, I haven't touched this in 
(dare I say?) decades...  Think the last time I looked at this was when Nicole 
Fagan was GRS
support at IBM.  Hope you're doing well Tom!
zN

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On 6/29/2020 2:47 PM, Norman Hollander wrote:
> Perfect!  Thanks...  Don't have ACF2, but I can figure out the RACF ones.
> 
> 

Norman,

Don't put RACF in your exclusion list, it isn't necessary.

Regards,
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Re: GRSRNL Example [EXTERNAL]

2020-06-29 Thread Norman Hollander
You are correct Paul.  If one member of the Sysplex has a different GRSRNL than 
the other(s),
you will get the 064 wait state.  Whenever I change PARMLIB members, I create a 
new IEASYS
which includes any new members.  That way, if you have a brain fart along the 
way, you can
easily backout.  I'd have to check if the SETGRSRNL command replaces the entire 
list, or appends
the new list.  GRSRNL can have multiple members.  So if you want IBM's (00) and 
yours appended,
you could easily do that.  
zN


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We don't update our GRSRNL to much.  Last time it was update was in 2016.  
There is one thing you might want to watch.  We ran into an issue one time when 
changes did get made an lpar got IPL before a SET GRSRNL=xx command was issues. 
 The lpar would not IPL, it went into a wait state.  I don't recall how we got 
out of the situation.  We may have backed out the changes and then IPLed.  
After that we may have put the changes back in and did the SET GRSRNL=xx 
command.  It has been a few years.

So now we have a warning at the top of the member indicating this issue could 
happen if the SET GRSRNL=xx command does not get done before an IPL is done.



Thanks..

Paul Feller
GTS Mainframe Technical Support

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The two examples given--from Richard Pinion and Jerry Edington--differ quite 
significantly aside from entries for optional products that a shop may or may 
not run. Our list, which has evolved over many decades, resembles Jerry's much 
more than Richard's. I'm not aware of any problems here, but I have to question 
whether all entries are necessary/useful. This an arena where entries get added 
but seldom removed. 

Is there a consensus for spare vs. verbose?

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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Perfect!  Thanks...  Don't have ACF2, but I can figure out the RACF ones.


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Here is what I have.
//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST*/

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DCMLIB)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DUMP)

//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST - PATTERN  */

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP1)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP2)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP3)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP4)
//
/*  SYSTEMS CONVERSION NAME LIST - RNLDEF STATEMENTS*/
//
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(PATTERN)
   QNAME(*)   /* CONVERT ALL RESERVES   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(IGDCDSXS)/* SMS RESOURCE NAME  */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SPZAPLIB)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIEWLP)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIGGV2)/* CATALOGS   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZRACF)/* RACF DATABASE  */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZVVDS)/* VVDS   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSVTOC) /* DISK VTOC  */
//

Re: GRSRNL Example

2020-06-29 Thread Norman Hollander
Seems to me that too many extraneous entries could take extra processing to
scan the entries each time, and would take up extra storage.  I think moving to
more generic (or pattern) type of entries may have an advantage.  Definitely 
need
the reserves converted.  Be sure you are only sharing DASD within the Sysplex.
Outside needs special handling (and you would not be able to use Star mode).
There is a lot more reporting (D GRS commands), and GRS monitoring that would
help determine how effective the list is.
zN

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The two examples given--from Richard Pinion and Jerry Edington--differ quite 
significantly aside from entries for optional products that a shop may or may 
not run. Our list, which has evolved over many decades, resembles Jerry's much 
more than Richard's. I'm not aware of any problems here, but I have to question 
whether all entries are necessary/useful. This an arena where entries get added 
but seldom removed. 

Is there a consensus for spare vs. verbose?

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com

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Perfect!  Thanks...  Don't have ACF2, but I can figure out the RACF ones.


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Subject: Re: GRSRNL Example

Here is what I have.
//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST*/

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DCMLIB)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DUMP)

//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST - PATTERN  */

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP1)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP2)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP3)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP4)
//
/*  SYSTEMS CONVERSION NAME LIST - RNLDEF STATEMENTS*/
//
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(PATTERN)
   QNAME(*)   /* CONVERT ALL RESERVES   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(IGDCDSXS)/* SMS RESOURCE NAME  */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SPZAPLIB)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIEWLP)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIGGV2)/* CATALOGS   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZRACF)/* RACF DATABASE  */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZVVDS)/* VVDS   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSVTOC) /* DISK VTOC  */
//
/*  SYSTEMS INCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST*/
//
/*  */
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(IXGLOGR)
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSDSN)
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIKJBC)
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZVOLS) /* AUTO TAPE SWITCHING AND VOLUMES   */
/*  */
//
/*  CA ACF2 */
//
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.LOGONIDS) RNLDEF 
RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.ALTLIDS) RNLDEF 
RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.RULES) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) 
TYPE(SP

Re: FW: GRSRNL Example

2020-06-29 Thread Tom Conley

On 6/29/2020 2:47 PM, Norman Hollander wrote:

Perfect!  Thanks...  Don't have ACF2, but I can figure out the RACF ones.




Norman,

Don't put RACF in your exclusion list, it isn't necessary.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: GRSRNL Example [EXTERNAL]

2020-06-29 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Paul,

That can happen, if the GRSRNL is out sync between LPARs.  You would need to 
setup the LPAR with GRSRNL that is currently running on the LPAR which is still 
up.  Then after the LPAR is up and running, you might be able to issue SET 
GRSRNL=xx, depending upon the changes.  I have hit that situation before. :) 

Jerry 

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We don't update our GRSRNL to much.  Last time it was update was in 2016.  
There is one thing you might want to watch.  We ran into an issue one time when 
changes did get made an lpar got IPL before a SET GRSRNL=xx command was issues. 
 The lpar would not IPL, it went into a wait state.  I don't recall how we got 
out of the situation.  We may have backed out the changes and then IPLed.  
After that we may have put the changes back in and did the SET GRSRNL=xx 
command.  It has been a few years.

So now we have a warning at the top of the member indicating this issue could 
happen if the SET GRSRNL=xx command does not get done before an IPL is done.



Thanks..

Paul Feller
GTS Mainframe Technical Support

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: GRSRNL Example [EXTERNAL]

The two examples given--from Richard Pinion and Jerry Edington--differ quite 
significantly aside from entries for optional products that a shop may or may 
not run. Our list, which has evolved over many decades, resembles Jerry's much 
more than Richard's. I'm not aware of any problems here, but I have to question 
whether all entries are necessary/useful. This an arena where entries get added 
but seldom removed. 

Is there a consensus for spare vs. verbose?

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com

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Norman Hollander
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Perfect!  Thanks...  Don't have ACF2, but I can figure out the RACF ones.


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Edgington, Jerry
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 11:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: GRSRNL Example

Here is what I have.
//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST*/

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DCMLIB)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DUMP)

//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST - PATTERN  */

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP1)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP2)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP3)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP4)
//
/*  SYSTEMS CONVERSION NAME LIST - RNLDEF STATEMENTS*/
//
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(PATTERN)
   QNAME(*)   /* CONVERT ALL RESERVES   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(IGDCDSXS)/* SMS RESOURCE NAME  */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SPZAPLIB)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIEWLP)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIGGV2)/* CATALOGS   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZRACF)/* RACF DATABASE  */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZVVDS)/* VVDS   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   

Re: GRSRNL Example [EXTERNAL]

2020-06-29 Thread Feller, Paul
We don't update our GRSRNL to much.  Last time it was update was in 2016.  
There is one thing you might want to watch.  We ran into an issue one time when 
changes did get made an lpar got IPL before a SET GRSRNL=xx command was issues. 
 The lpar would not IPL, it went into a wait state.  I don't recall how we got 
out of the situation.  We may have backed out the changes and then IPLed.  
After that we may have put the changes back in and did the SET GRSRNL=xx 
command.  It has been a few years.

So now we have a warning at the top of the member indicating this issue could 
happen if the SET GRSRNL=xx command does not get done before an IPL is done.



Thanks..

Paul Feller
GTS Mainframe Technical Support

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: GRSRNL Example [EXTERNAL]

The two examples given--from Richard Pinion and Jerry Edington--differ quite 
significantly aside from entries for optional products that a shop may or may 
not run. Our list, which has evolved over many decades, resembles Jerry's much 
more than Richard's. I'm not aware of any problems here, but I have to question 
whether all entries are necessary/useful. This an arena where entries get added 
but seldom removed. 

Is there a consensus for spare vs. verbose?

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com

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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 11:47 AM
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Perfect!  Thanks...  Don't have ACF2, but I can figure out the RACF ones.


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Edgington, Jerry
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 11:11 AM
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Subject: Re: GRSRNL Example

Here is what I have.
//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST*/

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DCMLIB)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DUMP)

//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST - PATTERN  */

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP1)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP2)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP3)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP4)
//
/*  SYSTEMS CONVERSION NAME LIST - RNLDEF STATEMENTS*/
//
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(PATTERN)
   QNAME(*)   /* CONVERT ALL RESERVES   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(IGDCDSXS)/* SMS RESOURCE NAME  */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SPZAPLIB)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIEWLP)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIGGV2)/* CATALOGS   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZRACF)/* RACF DATABASE  */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZVVDS)/* VVDS   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSVTOC) /* DISK VTOC  */
//
/*  SYSTEMS INCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST*/
//
/*  */
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(IXGLOGR)
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSDSN)
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIKJBC)
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZVOLS) /* AUTO TAPE SWITCHING AND VOLUMES   */
/*  */
//
/*  CA ACF2 */
//
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(

Re: GRSRNL Example

2020-06-29 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
The two examples given--from Richard Pinion and Jerry Edington--differ quite 
significantly aside from entries for optional products that a shop may or may 
not run. Our list, which has evolved over many decades, resembles Jerry's much 
more than Richard's. I'm not aware of any problems here, but I have to question 
whether all entries are necessary/useful. This an arena where entries get added 
but seldom removed. 

Is there a consensus for spare vs. verbose?

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com

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Norman Hollander
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 11:47 AM
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Perfect!  Thanks...  Don't have ACF2, but I can figure out the RACF ones.


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Edgington, Jerry
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 11:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: GRSRNL Example

Here is what I have.
//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST*/

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DCMLIB)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DUMP)

//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST - PATTERN  */

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP1)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP2)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP3)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP4)
//
/*  SYSTEMS CONVERSION NAME LIST - RNLDEF STATEMENTS*/
//
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(PATTERN)
   QNAME(*)   /* CONVERT ALL RESERVES   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(IGDCDSXS)/* SMS RESOURCE NAME  */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SPZAPLIB)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIEWLP)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIGGV2)/* CATALOGS   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZRACF)/* RACF DATABASE  */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZVVDS)/* VVDS   */
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSVTOC) /* DISK VTOC  */
//
/*  SYSTEMS INCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST*/
//
/*  */
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(IXGLOGR)
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSDSN)
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIKJBC)
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZVOLS) /* AUTO TAPE SWITCHING AND VOLUMES   */
/*  */
//
/*  CA ACF2 */
//
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.LOGONIDS) RNLDEF 
RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.ALTLIDS) RNLDEF 
RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.RULES) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) 
TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.ALTRULES) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) 
TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.INFOSTG) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) 
TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.ALTINFO)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSVSAM) RNAME(ACF.ACF2) RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) 
TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2)
/*  */

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Been a while since I've done this.  Anyone have a good example of a GRSRNL for 
a Sysplex?  DASD only shared among the

FW: GRSRNL Example

2020-06-29 Thread Norman Hollander
Perfect!  Thanks...  Don't have ACF2, but I can figure out the RACF ones.


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Here is what I have.
//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST*/

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DCMLIB)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC)

   QNAME(SYSDSN)

   RNAME(SYS1.DUMP)

//

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST - PATTERN  */

//

/*  */

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP1)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)

   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP2)  
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)  
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP3)  
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC)  
   QNAME(SYSZJES2) RNAME(SYS1.HASPCKP4)  
//   
/*  SYSTEMS CONVERSION NAME LIST - RNLDEF STATEMENTS*/   
//   
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(PATTERN)
   QNAME(*)   /* CONVERT ALL RESERVES   */   
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(IGDCDSXS)/* SMS RESOURCE NAME  */   
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SPZAPLIB)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */   
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIEWLP)/* ISPF AND LINKEAGE EDITOR   */   
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIGGV2)/* CATALOGS   */   
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZRACF)/* RACF DATABASE  */   
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZVVDS)/* VVDS   */   
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(GENERIC)   
   QNAME(SYSVTOC) /* DISK VTOC  */
//
/*  SYSTEMS INCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST*/
//
/*  */
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(IXGLOGR)   
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSDSN)  
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSIKJBC)
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC)
   QNAME(SYSZVOLS) /* AUTO TAPE SWITCHING AND VOLUMES   */
/*  */
//
/*  CA ACF2 */
//
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.LOGONIDS)   
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.ALTLIDS)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.RULES)  
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.ALTRULES)   
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.INFOSTG)
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2.ALTINFO)

RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSVSAM) RNAME(ACF.ACF2)  
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSDSN)  RNAME(ACF.ACF2)  
/*  */  

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Been a while since I've done this.  Anyone have a good example of a GRSRNL for 
a Sysplex?  DASD only shared among the Sysplex members.
TIA!
zN

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Re: GRSRNL Example

2020-06-29 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
This is what we are using.

/*  SYSTEMS EXCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST - RNLDEF STATEMENTS*/ 
  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 1 Line(s) not Displayed 
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(SYS1.DEVB.DAE) 
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(SYS1.FXPA.DAE) 
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(SYS1.PRDA.DAE) 
RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSDSN) RNAME(SYS1.BRODCAST) 
  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 7 Line(s) not Displayed 
/*  SYSTEM INCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST - RNLDEF STATEMENTS */ 
  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 2 Line(s) not Displayed 
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC) QNAME(SYSDSN)   
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC) QNAME(SPFEDIT)  
RNLDEF RNL(INCL) TYPE(GENERIC) QNAME(SYSZVOLS) 
  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 3 Line(s) not Displayed 
/*  SYSTEM INCLUSION RESOURCE NAME LIST - RNLDEF STATEMENTS */ 
  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 3 Line(s) not Displayed 
/*  RESERVE CONVERSION RESOURCE NAME LIST - RNLDEF STATEMENTS   */ 
  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 2 Line(s) not Displayed 
RNLDEF RNL(CON) TYPE(PATTERN)  QNAME(*)
  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  - 5 Line(s) not Displayed

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Been a while since I've done this.  Anyone have a good example of a GRSRNL for 
a Sysplex?  DASD only shared among the Sysplex members.
TIA!
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GRSRNL Example

2020-06-29 Thread Norman Hollander
Been a while since I've done this.  Anyone have a good example
of a GRSRNL for a Sysplex?  DASD only shared among the Sysplex
members.
TIA!
zN

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