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[Default] On 18 May 2020 18:19:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote:
>CRJE
>
>
[Default] On 18 May 2020 18:19:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote:
>CRJE
>
>All very well for a 2741, but for a 3270 I'd much rather have SuperWylbur or
>ISPF, TYVM.
>
>> IEHIOSUP
>
>My eyes! Take the bad thing away, Mommy!
>
>I was thinking more of Compatibi
gel [dspiegel...@hotmail.com]
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OS/VS1 ... like CRJE and IEHIOSUP?
On 2020-05-18 12:32, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> You would think that IBM's "Premiere OS" would be
_
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On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:21:20 -0700, Ch
Depends on the date. If it is during daylight savings, MDT, otherwise CST.
-0500 used to prevent a bit of a challenge. EST, CDT, or Indiana EST all year.
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:02 PM Paul Gilmartin
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>
> On Mon, 18 May 2020 11:26:17 -0500,
On Mon, 18 May 2020 11:26:17 -0500, Dale R. Smith wrote:
>
>z/VM has a CP QUERY TIMEZONE command:
>query timezone
>Zone Direction Offset Status
>UTC 00.00.00 Inactive
>GMT 00.00.00 Inactive
>EDT West 04.00.00 Active
>EST We
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On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:21:20 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
&
On Sun, 17 May 2020 12:21:20 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>The heck with it! I wanted it for the "Date:" line in an outgoing e-mail but
>it appears that SMTP provides a sent timestamp if I don't, so the heck with
>it!
>
>Thanks all for your efforts. Why should something so basic be so hard?
>
>Cha
On Mon, 18 May 2020 09:38:01 -0400, Steve Smith wrote:
>Speaking of TZ, by coincidence I just stumbled across its full
>documentation in UNIX System Services Command Reference Appendix I.
>
>Format
>TZ= standardHH[:MM[:SS]] [daylight[HH[:MM[:SS:]]]
>[,startdate[/starttime],enddate[/endtime]] ]
>
I've been staying out of this conversation; sometimes I fail to read carefully,
but this time I actually understood the question, so I kept my mouth shut, not
knowing the answer.
...Except for the obvious possibility, of course. But no one seems to have
mentioned that possibility yet, except M
On Mon, 18 May 2020 08:16:20 -0400, Peter Relson wrote:
>
>... the protocols such as having the clock be UTC ...
>
More precisely, the PoOps under TOD Programmable Register
suggests (actually avers) that the TOD be set not to UTC but
to TAI-10 seconds; currently about half a minute faster.
>The c
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On 2020-05-18 8:40 PM, Barkow, Eileen wrote:
> Java has several classes and API methods to get the time zone.
> Where does the JVM determine this info -is is not from the Unix settings?
Yes, but you better make sure
Speaking of TZ, by coincidence I just stumbled across its full
documentation in UNIX System Services Command Reference Appendix I.
Format
TZ= standardHH[:MM[:SS]] [daylight[HH[:MM[:SS:]]]
[,startdate[/starttime],enddate[/endtime]] ]
It describes all those elements. I wasn't even aware of the DS
the timezone etc is part of the
timestamp.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
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But make sure that uss & mvs clocks are the same.
בתאריך יום ב׳, 18 במאי 2020, 15:28, מאת Steve Smith :
> I forgot about the IANA Time-Zone database. That does seem to be the
> standard.
>
> I don't see that Unix ha
But make sure that uss & mvs clocks are the same.
בתאריך יום ב׳, 18 במאי 2020, 15:28, מאת Steve Smith :
> I forgot about the IANA Time-Zone database. That does seem to be the
> standard.
>
> I don't see that Unix has anything to do with it.
>
> sas
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:41 AM Mike Schwa
I forgot about the IANA Time-Zone database. That does seem to be the
standard.
I don't see that Unix has anything to do with it.
sas
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 1:41 AM Mike Schwab wrote:
> East Bank Palestinians and Israelites use different times for the same
> location
> Line Islands in Kiribat
Surely a simple answer is: you have to do it yourself.
In general, it is likely impossible because you do not know if the
customer might be setting the clock to their local time and not using the
protocols such as having the clock be UTC with the timezone being the
offset from UTC.
The custo
East Bank Palestinians and Israelites use different times for the same location
Line Islands in Kiribati uses +14 time zone, same time one day earlier
as -10 Hawaii.
And agree the Unix time zone database is a great idea.
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:58 AM Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ..
On Mon, 18 May 2020 01:58:01 +, Mike Schwab wrote:
>Yep. You almost need a country code, and for multi zone countries a
>zone indicator. Especially since a shared time zone might have
>different DST / ST switch dates in different countries.
>
And it's up to the recipient to unwind the proce
Yep. You almost need a country code, and for multi zone countries a
zone indicator. Especially since a shared time zone might have
different DST / ST switch dates in different countries.
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 9:03 PM Paul Gilmartin
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> On
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On Sun, 17 May 2020 13:39:18 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>Please read the subject line ... :-)
>
Beware of ambiguity. AST is both Arabia Standa
BPXWUNIX with date '%D %X %Z' is the method I use to get date, time, and
timezone name from Rexx.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.bpxb600/wunix.htm
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.bpxa500/date.htm
On Sun, May 17,
On Sun, 17 May 2020 13:39:18 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>Please read the subject line ... :-)
>
Beware of ambiguity. AST is both Arabia Standard Time and Atlantic Standard
Time,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_time_zone_abbreviations
... and I hadn't gotten through the "A"s yet.
--
Please read the subject line ... :-)
Charles
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On Sun, 17 May 2020 14:57:14 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Sun, 17 May 2020 11:38:11 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>>I want to get the 3-or-so character *name* of the local time zone in Rexx.
>>What is the most straightforward way?
>>
>From the command line, I'd use:
>869 $ date +%Z
>
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It's not so basic. AFAIK, z/OS doesn't keep track of the local timezone name,
other tha
It's not so basic. AFAIK, z/OS doesn't keep track of the local timezone
name, other than the Unix TZ environment variable, which of course is
arbitrarily set by whoever sets it. But that's pretty much the nature of
timezone names, which are not unique, consistent, or properly understood.
If you
On Sun, 17 May 2020 11:38:11 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>I want to get the 3-or-so character *name* of the local time zone in Rexx.
>What is the most straightforward way?
>
From the command line, I'd use:
869 $ date +%Z
MDT
>Environment: Rexx running in an STC under TSO (IRXEXEC).
>
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> Subject: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?
>
> I want to get the 3-or-so character *name* of the local time zone in Rexx.
> What is the most straightforward way?
>
> I get lots of hits that explain how to calculate the local offset from
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I want to get the 3-or-so character *name* of the local time zone in Rexx.
What is the most stra
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> Charles
>
>
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True, but you know the offset. Btw, d t command tells you the utc. Use
console command
ITschak
בתאריך יום א׳, 17 במאי 2020, 22:06, מאת Charles Mills :
> That
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>
> the answer is at CVTTZ. use STORAGE to fetch the info. see bel
LOL
sas
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 2:52 PM ITschak Mugzach wrote:
> the answer is at CVTTZ. use STORAGE to fetch the info. see below offer,
> etc.
> ITschak
>
> 304 (130) SIGNED 4 CVTTZ - Difference between local time and UTC
> (Coordinated Universal Time) in binary units of 1.048576 seconds. Con
That is the numeric offset, right, not the *name*?
Charles
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the answer is at CVTTZ. use STORAGE to fetch the info. see below offer,
etc.
ITschak
304 (130) SIGNED 4 CVTTZ - Difference between local time and UTC
(Coordinated Universal Time) in binary units of 1.048576 seconds. Contains
the same value as CVTLDTOL. CVTLDTO (which contains CVTLDTOL) has this
d
Charles,
A thought, issue ‘D IPLINFO’ before set Outtrap on with a stem variable
After command set outtrap off and the do a parse of the stem ...
Scott
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 2:42 PM scott Ford wrote:
> Charles,
>
> I just looked through the TSO Rexx manual, I assumed you did, I didn’t see
>
Charles,
I just looked through the TSO Rexx manual, I assumed you did, I didn’t see
Timezone. Maybe a TSO function ?
Scott
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 2:38 PM Charles Mills wrote:
> I want to get the 3-or-so character *name* of the local time zone in Rexx.
> What is the most straightforward way?
>
I want to get the 3-or-so character *name* of the local time zone in Rexx.
What is the most straightforward way?
I get lots of hits that explain how to calculate the local offset from GMT,
but what I need is the name such as 'EST' or 'PDT' (and yes, I know the
limitations thereof, and that they ar
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