Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4319378232671512.wa.walt.farrellgmail@listserv.ua.edu>, on 07/02/2015 at 07:11 PM, Walt Farrell said: >Just to be clear: you are only interested in temporary data sets >where the system generated the name? Isn't that how OS/360 et al define temporary data sets. -- Shmuel (Seym

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-03 Thread Charles Mills
EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 6:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? What are you looking for in SMF Type 42 Records that is not there? SMF Type 42 has been expanded to cover a lot of informat

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-03 Thread David Crayford
On 3/07/2015 4:30 PM, Barry Merrill wrote: SMF14/15 SMF14RIN Bit 3 SMF14TDS. Temporary data set. Thanks Baz! You really are the doyen of SMF and that information is very useful to me. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / ar

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
be provided Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 6:11 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a te

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-03 Thread Charles Mills
A.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? SMF14/15 SMF14RIN Bit 3 SMF14TDS. Temporary data set. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.u

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-03 Thread Barry Merrill
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 10:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? SMF 15 reports a dataset output CLOSE. SMF 42 reports a member update or delete. Is this a file

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 14:25 -0700 on 07/02/2015, Charles Mills wrote about Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by n: Thanks. I did not have a convenient way to do "yyddd" but I did at least change it to SYS%.T%%.RA000.** Yes, it will get a false positive on SYSHELLO.THEATRE.RA000.FOO.

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
: Thursday, July 02, 2015 5:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:55:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary >dataset? The actual nam

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Rob Schramm
Why not go after volumes / storage group where OS-temps are? Rob Schramm On Thu, Jul 2, 2015, 8:12 PM Walt Farrell wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:55:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > > >Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary > >dataset? The actual name, not &&W

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:55:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary >dataset? The actual name, not &&WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN >notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to >preclude false p

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Tom Brennan
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony's Outlook via Mozilla Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Charles, you are a far braver man than I. If

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
x27;s Outlook via Mozilla Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Charles, you are a far braver man than I. If this were in place I couldn&#x

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Tony's Outlook via Mozilla
July 02, 2015 2:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Charles, with 'SYS*.T*.R*.**' list you may pick SYS1.TOPSCRET.RACF.LIST files which is not a temp dataset . So I would suggest adding YY and DDD also to your s

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? > >Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary >dataset? The actual name, not &&WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN >notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is th

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? If you were not aware, there is a RACF list that might be more helpful. To subscribe to the RACF-L discussion in order to receive postings, send a note to: lists...@listserv.uga.edu Include the following l

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? > >Charles, > >with 'SYS*.T*.R*.**' list you may pick SYS1.TOPSCRET.RACF.LIST files which >is not a temp dataset . So I would suggest adding YY and DDD also to your >sear

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
al Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 2:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Charles, with 'SYS*.T*.R*.**' li

Re: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Sri h Kolusu
the name of the job Thanks Kolusu From: Charles Mills To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/02/2015 01:56 PM Subject: How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List Is there a definitive rule for recognizin

How does one definitively recognize a temp dataset by name?

2015-07-02 Thread Charles Mills
Is there a definitive rule for recognizing *by name* a system temporary dataset? The actual name, not &&WHATEVER. I am checking for (using RACF EGN notation here to express my rule) 'SYS*.T*.R*.**'. Is that sufficient to preclude false positives? Will it produce false negatives? Is it over-specifie