Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-16 Thread Timothy Sipples
Roger Lowe wrote:
>If you have the IBM Debug Tool product, there is included the
>"Load Module Analyzer" which  analyses program objects to determine
>the language translator (compiler or assembler) that was used to
>generate the object for each CSECT.

There are lots of great answers in this thread, and I'll fill out a couple 
more. Nowadays you can get the Load Module Analyzer via "IBM Debug for Z" 
or via "IBM Developer for Z Enterprise Edition." Depending on what you're 
doing you may also find the COBOL and CICS Command Level Conversion Aid to 
be useful. It's available via the same two product offerings and also via 
"IBM Developer for Z."

And/or "IBM Application Discovery" may be useful, and there are at least a 
couple vehicles to get that.

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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Tom Conley

On 4/15/2020 3:06 PM, Roger Lowe wrote:

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 07:15:16 -0700, Charles Mills  wrote:


Given a COBOL-based load module, is there a way to tell what COBOL compiler
(including version) the main module was built with? Is there a "tag" in the
object code that says "this was compiled by (for example) Enterprise COBOL
V6R3M0?"




PDS, file 182 on your CBT tape dial.  www.cbttape.org

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Billy Ashton

Thanks Peter; I had looked for an update, but not in the correct place. The new 
version works much better!
B

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Did you get the newer V1.52 from the CBT UPDATES page or the older version from 
the main DL page?

Peter

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I just tried to assemble and run the COBANALZ program, but got S206-04 on 
multiple libraries...not sure what to do with that, as I haven't got time to 
troubleshoot this.

Billy
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Did you get the newer V1.52 from the CBT UPDATES page or the older version from 
the main DL page?

Peter

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I just tried to assemble and run the COBANALZ program, but got S206-04 on 
multiple libraries...not sure what to do with that, as I haven't got time to 
troubleshoot this.

Billy
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Charles Mills
Code Explanation
04 A LOAD macro was issued with conflicting options. One of the following 
occurred:
v The EOM (delete module at end of memory) keyword, with the GLOBAL keyword 
omitted. The EOM
keyword applies only if the module is loaded into CSA storage.
v The GLOBAL and ADDR keywords are both specified.
v The ADDR and LOADPT keywords are both specified.

Charles


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I just tried to assemble and run the COBANALZ program, but got S206-04 
on multiple libraries...not sure what to do with that, as I haven't got 
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Roger Lowe
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 07:15:16 -0700, Charles Mills  wrote:

>Given a COBOL-based load module, is there a way to tell what COBOL compiler
>(including version) the main module was built with? Is there a "tag" in the
>object code that says "this was compiled by (for example) Enterprise COBOL
>V6R3M0?"
>
If you have the IBM Debug Tool product, there is included the "Load Module 
Analyzer" which  analyses program objects to determine the language translator 
(compiler or assembler) that was used to generate the object for each CSECT.

Found it very useful .

Roger

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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Billy Ashton
I just tried to assemble and run the COBANALZ program, but got S206-04 
on multiple libraries...not sure what to do with that, as I haven't got 
time to troubleshoot this.


Billy

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module?



Enterprise COBOL "signature" now uses "CEE" not C1 or C2 (actually 
X'01C3C5C5').  Need to find the LE PPA2 data block and from there find the compiler timestamp, 
which is followed by the version / release / modlevel bytes (e.g. 20190924143846050200, which says 
version 05, release 02, modlevel 00).  See the code in COBANALZ in CBT 321 for the gory details of 
how to get there.

Not sure if the compiler-generated IDR info has that, but I have not looked 
either.

Peter

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Subject: Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

Cobol has a signature, at least used to have, in the load module date& time. C1 
for os/vs Cobol, C2 for cobol 2. I believe ibm maintains same signature for ent. 
Version.

ITschak

בתאריך יום ד׳, 15 באפר׳ 2020, 20:18, מאת Pommier, Rex ‏<
rpomm...@sfgmembers.com>:


 Oops, I missed your "ignore my comment" before I responded to the last one.

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 produced load module?

 Sorry, ignore that comment.  "FM" here is CA FileMaster, not IBM
 FileManager.

 Apologies for my confusion.

 Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: Farley, Peter x23353
 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:11 PM
 To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 Subject: RE: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

 Don't know what version of FM you are using, but we have FM V10.0 here
 and FM 3.10 is their "COMPARE" utility, no sub-menus.

 FM 3.13 is "LOADINFO", is that the feature you are talking about?  I
 ran that on a COBOL V6.2 program object and no COBOL compiler
 information was generated, only binder dates/attributes.

 CBT file 321 does a better job for this kind of inquiry.

 Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
 Behalf Of Steve Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:33 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

 EXTERNAL EMAIL

 First, Filemanager, then 3.10 (and then 1-View).  It's not on the ISPF
 Utilities menu.  I've no way of knowing if or how to start Filemanager
 on anything but my own systems.  You might have to poke around, or ask
 the Powers-That-Be.  Or you may not have it, or of course, have
 sysadmins that assume you're not worthy of it.

 FM is mainly for browsing & editing VSAM files, but that Load Module
 utility (FM.3.10.1) is a hidden gem.

 sas

 On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Charles Mills  wrote:

 > My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!
 >
 > 9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table
 > 11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse
 >
 > But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.
 >
 > Charles

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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Charles Mills
AMBLIST has

  TRANSLATOR   VER   MOD DATETIME  
CSECT:progname  
  5655EC6   060204/15/2020 

Charles


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Subject: Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

Enterprise COBOL "signature" now uses "CEE" not C1 or C2 (actually 
X'01C3C5C5').  Need to find the LE PPA2 data block and from there find the 
compiler timestamp, which is followed by the version / release / modlevel bytes 
(e.g. 20190924143846050200, which says version 05, release 02, modlevel 00).  
See the code in COBANALZ in CBT 321 for the gory details of how to get there.

Not sure if the compiler-generated IDR info has that, but I have not looked 
either.

Peter

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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

Cobol has a signature, at least used to have, in the load module date& time. C1 
for os/vs Cobol, C2 for cobol 2. I believe ibm maintains same signature for 
ent. Version.

ITschak

בתאריך יום ד׳, 15 באפר׳ 2020, 20:18, מאת Pommier, Rex ‏<
rpomm...@sfgmembers.com>:

> Oops, I missed your "ignore my comment" before I responded to the last one.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:13 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [External] Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler 
> produced load module?
>
> Sorry, ignore that comment.  "FM" here is CA FileMaster, not IBM 
> FileManager.
>
> Apologies for my confusion.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:11 PM
> To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> Subject: RE: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?
>
> Don't know what version of FM you are using, but we have FM V10.0 here 
> and FM 3.10 is their "COMPARE" utility, no sub-menus.
>
> FM 3.13 is "LOADINFO", is that the feature you are talking about?  I 
> ran that on a COBOL V6.2 program object and no COBOL compiler 
> information was generated, only binder dates/attributes.
>
> CBT file 321 does a better job for this kind of inquiry.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:33 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?
>
> EXTERNAL EMAIL
>
> First, Filemanager, then 3.10 (and then 1-View).  It's not on the ISPF 
> Utilities menu.  I've no way of knowing if or how to start Filemanager 
> on anything but my own systems.  You might have to poke around, or ask 
> the Powers-That-Be.  Or you may not have it, or of course, have 
> sysadmins that assume you're not worthy of it.
>
> FM is mainly for browsing & editing VSAM files, but that Load Module 
> utility (FM.3.10.1) is a hidden gem.
>
> sas
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Charles Mills  wrote:
>
> > My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!
> >
> > 9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table
> > 11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse
> >
> > But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.
> >
> > Charles
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Enterprise COBOL "signature" now uses "CEE" not C1 or C2 (actually 
X'01C3C5C5').  Need to find the LE PPA2 data block and from there find the 
compiler timestamp, which is followed by the version / release / modlevel bytes 
(e.g. 20190924143846050200, which says version 05, release 02, modlevel 00).  
See the code in COBANALZ in CBT 321 for the gory details of how to get there.

Not sure if the compiler-generated IDR info has that, but I have not looked 
either.

Peter

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
ITschak Mugzach
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:27 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

Cobol has a signature, at least used to have, in the load module date& time. C1 
for os/vs Cobol, C2 for cobol 2. I believe ibm maintains same signature for 
ent. Version.

ITschak

בתאריך יום ד׳, 15 באפר׳ 2020, 20:18, מאת Pommier, Rex ‏<
rpomm...@sfgmembers.com>:

> Oops, I missed your "ignore my comment" before I responded to the last one.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:13 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [External] Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler 
> produced load module?
>
> Sorry, ignore that comment.  "FM" here is CA FileMaster, not IBM 
> FileManager.
>
> Apologies for my confusion.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:11 PM
> To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> Subject: RE: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?
>
> Don't know what version of FM you are using, but we have FM V10.0 here 
> and FM 3.10 is their "COMPARE" utility, no sub-menus.
>
> FM 3.13 is "LOADINFO", is that the feature you are talking about?  I 
> ran that on a COBOL V6.2 program object and no COBOL compiler 
> information was generated, only binder dates/attributes.
>
> CBT file 321 does a better job for this kind of inquiry.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:33 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?
>
> EXTERNAL EMAIL
>
> First, Filemanager, then 3.10 (and then 1-View).  It's not on the ISPF 
> Utilities menu.  I've no way of knowing if or how to start Filemanager 
> on anything but my own systems.  You might have to poke around, or ask 
> the Powers-That-Be.  Or you may not have it, or of course, have 
> sysadmins that assume you're not worthy of it.
>
> FM is mainly for browsing & editing VSAM files, but that Load Module 
> utility (FM.3.10.1) is a hidden gem.
>
> sas
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Charles Mills  wrote:
>
> > My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!
> >
> > 9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table
> > 11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse
> >
> > But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.
> >
> > Charles
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Cobol has a signature, at least used to have, in the load module date&
time. C1 for os/vs Cobol, C2 for cobol 2. I believe ibm maintains same
signature for ent. Version.

ITschak

בתאריך יום ד׳, 15 באפר׳ 2020, 20:18, מאת Pommier, Rex ‏<
rpomm...@sfgmembers.com>:

> Oops, I missed your "ignore my comment" before I responded to the last one.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:13 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [External] Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced
> load module?
>
> Sorry, ignore that comment.  "FM" here is CA FileMaster, not IBM
> FileManager.
>
> Apologies for my confusion.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Farley, Peter x23353
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:11 PM
> To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> Subject: RE: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?
>
> Don't know what version of FM you are using, but we have FM V10.0 here and
> FM 3.10 is their "COMPARE" utility, no sub-menus.
>
> FM 3.13 is "LOADINFO", is that the feature you are talking about?  I ran
> that on a COBOL V6.2 program object and no COBOL compiler information was
> generated, only binder dates/attributes.
>
> CBT file 321 does a better job for this kind of inquiry.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:33 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?
>
> EXTERNAL EMAIL
>
> First, Filemanager, then 3.10 (and then 1-View).  It's not on the ISPF
> Utilities menu.  I've no way of knowing if or how to start Filemanager on
> anything but my own systems.  You might have to poke around, or ask the
> Powers-That-Be.  Or you may not have it, or of course, have sysadmins that
> assume you're not worthy of it.
>
> FM is mainly for browsing & editing VSAM files, but that Load Module
> utility (FM.3.10.1) is a hidden gem.
>
> sas
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Charles Mills  wrote:
>
> > My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!
> >
> > 9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table
> > 11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse
> >
> > But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.
> >
> > Charles
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Pommier, Rex
Oops, I missed your "ignore my comment" before I responded to the last one.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:13 PM
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module?

Sorry, ignore that comment.  "FM" here is CA FileMaster, not IBM FileManager.

Apologies for my confusion.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: Farley, Peter x23353
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:11 PM
To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
Subject: RE: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

Don't know what version of FM you are using, but we have FM V10.0 here and FM 
3.10 is their "COMPARE" utility, no sub-menus.

FM 3.13 is "LOADINFO", is that the feature you are talking about?  I ran that 
on a COBOL V6.2 program object and no COBOL compiler information was generated, 
only binder dates/attributes.

CBT file 321 does a better job for this kind of inquiry.

Peter

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Steve Smith
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:33 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

EXTERNAL EMAIL

First, Filemanager, then 3.10 (and then 1-View).  It's not on the ISPF 
Utilities menu.  I've no way of knowing if or how to start Filemanager on 
anything but my own systems.  You might have to poke around, or ask the 
Powers-That-Be.  Or you may not have it, or of course, have sysadmins that 
assume you're not worthy of it.

FM is mainly for browsing & editing VSAM files, but that Load Module utility 
(FM.3.10.1) is a hidden gem.

sas

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Charles Mills  wrote:

> My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!
>
> 9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table
> 11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse
>
> But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.
>
> Charles
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Pommier, Rex
Filemanager version 13.1 has option 3.10 as the loadlib option.  Hasn't version 
10 been out of service for several years?

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Don't know what version of FM you are using, but we have FM V10.0 here and FM 
3.10 is their "COMPARE" utility, no sub-menus.

FM 3.13 is "LOADINFO", is that the feature you are talking about?  I ran that 
on a COBOL V6.2 program object and no COBOL compiler information was generated, 
only binder dates/attributes.

CBT file 321 does a better job for this kind of inquiry.

Peter

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First, Filemanager, then 3.10 (and then 1-View).  It's not on the ISPF 
Utilities menu.  I've no way of knowing if or how to start Filemanager on 
anything but my own systems.  You might have to poke around, or ask the 
Powers-That-Be.  Or you may not have it, or of course, have sysadmins that 
assume you're not worthy of it.

FM is mainly for browsing & editing VSAM files, but that Load Module utility 
(FM.3.10.1) is a hidden gem.

sas

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Charles Mills  wrote:

> My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!
>
> 9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table
> 11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse
>
> But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.
>
> Charles
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Sorry, ignore that comment.  "FM" here is CA FileMaster, not IBM FileManager.

Apologies for my confusion.

Peter

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Don't know what version of FM you are using, but we have FM V10.0 here and FM 
3.10 is their "COMPARE" utility, no sub-menus.

FM 3.13 is "LOADINFO", is that the feature you are talking about?  I ran that 
on a COBOL V6.2 program object and no COBOL compiler information was generated, 
only binder dates/attributes.

CBT file 321 does a better job for this kind of inquiry.

Peter

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First, Filemanager, then 3.10 (and then 1-View).  It's not on the ISPF 
Utilities menu.  I've no way of knowing if or how to start Filemanager on 
anything but my own systems.  You might have to poke around, or ask the 
Powers-That-Be.  Or you may not have it, or of course, have sysadmins that 
assume you're not worthy of it.

FM is mainly for browsing & editing VSAM files, but that Load Module utility 
(FM.3.10.1) is a hidden gem.

sas

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Charles Mills  wrote:

> My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!
>
> 9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table
> 11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse
>
> But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.
>
> Charles
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Don't know what version of FM you are using, but we have FM V10.0 here and FM 
3.10 is their "COMPARE" utility, no sub-menus.

FM 3.13 is "LOADINFO", is that the feature you are talking about?  I ran that 
on a COBOL V6.2 program object and no COBOL compiler information was generated, 
only binder dates/attributes.

CBT file 321 does a better job for this kind of inquiry.

Peter

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First, Filemanager, then 3.10 (and then 1-View).  It's not on the ISPF 
Utilities menu.  I've no way of knowing if or how to start Filemanager on 
anything but my own systems.  You might have to poke around, or ask the 
Powers-That-Be.  Or you may not have it, or of course, have sysadmins that 
assume you're not worthy of it.

FM is mainly for browsing & editing VSAM files, but that Load Module utility 
(FM.3.10.1) is a hidden gem.

sas

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Charles Mills  wrote:

> My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!
>
> 9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table
> 11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse
>
> But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.
>
> Charles
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Charles Mills
Got it. Thanks.

Charles


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First, Filemanager, then 3.10 (and then 1-View).  It's not on the ISPF
Utilities menu.  I've no way of knowing if or how to start Filemanager on
anything but my own systems.  You might have to poke around, or ask the
Powers-That-Be.  Or you may not have it, or of course, have sysadmins that
assume you're not worthy of it.

FM is mainly for browsing & editing VSAM files, but that Load Module
utility (FM.3.10.1) is a hidden gem.

sas

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Charles Mills  wrote:

> My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!
>
> 9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table
> 11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse
>
> But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.
>
> Charles

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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Steve Smith
First, Filemanager, then 3.10 (and then 1-View).  It's not on the ISPF
Utilities menu.  I've no way of knowing if or how to start Filemanager on
anything but my own systems.  You might have to poke around, or ask the
Powers-That-Be.  Or you may not have it, or of course, have sysadmins that
assume you're not worthy of it.

FM is mainly for browsing & editing VSAM files, but that Load Module
utility (FM.3.10.1) is a hidden gem.

sas

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Charles Mills  wrote:

> My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!
>
> 9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table
> 11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse
>
> But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.
>
> Charles

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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Charles Mills
My ISPF 3 goes straight from 9 to 11!

9  CommandsCreate/change an application command table  
11 Format  Format definition for formatted data Edit/Browse

But yes, thanks all on AMBLIST. Does the job.

Charles


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AMBLIST is the easy & always-available way to LISTIDR.  If you have
FileManager, option 3.10 lets you view them in ISPF.  It also expands the
compiler IDs to readable text, and can also humanize the dates.

sas

Given a COBOL-based load module, is there a way to tell what COBOL compiler
> (including version) the main module was built with? Is there a "tag" in the
> object code that says "this was compiled by (for example) Enterprise COBOL
> V6R3M0?"
>
> Charles

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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Steve Smith
AMBLIST is the easy & always-available way to LISTIDR.  If you have
FileManager, option 3.10 lets you view them in ISPF.  It also expands the
compiler IDs to readable text, and can also humanize the dates.

sas

Given a COBOL-based load module, is there a way to tell what COBOL compiler
> (including version) the main module was built with? Is there a "tag" in the
> object code that says "this was compiled by (for example) Enterprise COBOL
> V6R3M0?"
>
> Charles

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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
CBT file 321, COBANALZ does a pretty good job of extracting that information 
(and more).  DUMMY the SYSPRINT output (usually much more detail than you need 
for this level of analysis) and use the SUMMARY DD to see the consolidated 
results.

HTH

Peter

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Given a COBOL-based load module, is there a way to tell what COBOL compiler 
(including version) the main module was built with? Is there a "tag" in the 
object code that says "this was compiled by (for example) Enterprise COBOL 
V6R3M0?"

Charles 
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Re: How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
Look at the IDR data.


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Given a COBOL-based load module, is there a way to tell what COBOL compiler
(including version) the main module was built with? Is there a "tag" in the
object code that says "this was compiled by (for example) Enterprise COBOL
V6R3M0?"

Charles

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How tell what verion of COBOL compiler produced load module?

2020-04-15 Thread Charles Mills
Given a COBOL-based load module, is there a way to tell what COBOL compiler
(including version) the main module was built with? Is there a "tag" in the
object code that says "this was compiled by (for example) Enterprise COBOL
V6R3M0?"

Charles 

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