Re: How to find Life cycle dates for ibm products
Hi Lizette, Might I suggest something much more customized for your system and modern? The z/OSMF Software Management "End of service" report (Maintenance reports -> End of service) is one of the best hidden gems in z/OSMF! https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zosmfdeployment.help.doc/izuDhpActCreateReportEOS.html Also - the input file format that IBM uses has been shared with the ISV community, so this could be exploited by others to give you truly a system-stack view. My only criticism is that I have to shrink my screen down considerably to get the whole "spectrum" view that I want. But this might not be a consideration for you. It is so intuitive to use, you should be able to get immediate reports, if you have z/OSMF set up and have access to Software Management. (And have your software instances set up -- but these take only minutes to do if you haven't done that yet.) Let us know what you think, once you try it out. -Marna WALLE z/OS System Install and Upgrade, IBM Poughkeepsie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How to find Life cycle dates for ibm products
A slight personal caution from me I find the IBM Software Lifecycle pages to be quite accurate, but there are rare occasions when some nuances aren't reflected in the Lifecycle summaries. The few rare occasions I've found have been along these lines: 1. End of Service for Version X.Y.0 but not for Version X.Y.Z. The Lifecycle page might say "End of Service Version X.Y" without an obvious/visible indication that X.Y.Z is still supported. IBM has caught the MQ for z/OS examples -- MQ 7.0.0 and 7.0.1 had different lifecycles, for example -- but there might be some weird exceptions otherwise. 2. End of Service for elements of a major product but not for all elements. For example, if a compiler is withdrawn from marketing on a particular operating system but not on all operating systems, the Lifecycle summary page might not reflect that level of detail. 3. If the product name and/or packaging changes substantially enough, you might not see a successor version listed. Ordinarily the Lifecycle summary page links to the relevant product announcement letters that detail these nuances, but you have to click through and actually read that information if you want it. Anyway, like any other sources of summary information, if you critically depend on some piece of information you should double check it, that's all. As always, if you see an error or omission then please "call it in" (report it to IBM through the Web site feedback channels). Please also remember that IBM's general policy is that the lifecycle is tied to the "headline" product offering. Using a fictitious example, let's suppose you license a product called IBM Bouncy Castle Version 6.5, and that Bouncy Castle 6.5 happens to include restricted use licenses for WebSphere Application Server 8.0 and MQ 7.0.1. Unless IBM says otherwise, the only End of Service date that matters is the EoS date for Bouncy Castle 6.5, the whole product, even if/when WebSphere Application Server 8.0 and MQ 7.0.1 reach their End of Service dates if they were separately, independently licensed. The reverse is also possible: Bouncy Castle 6.5 could reach End of Support earlier than the included products if they were separately licensed. Also, you should not treat End of Service dates as limiting in the sense that you should avoid installing and using newer versions. There is no more Single Version Charge (SVC) countdown clock -- that's gone, and good riddance. Go right ahead and order every new release for products you're entitled to, install them (at least in Development), and get going. New releases are almost always better, so routinely installing new releases promotes faster "time to value." In the rare cases when the new release isn't better, it's best to have faster "time to discovery," so you have more and better opportunities to remediate such problems. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM Z & LinuxONE E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How to find Life cycle dates for ibm products
Thank you I keep hoping for the simple things in life. Using LIFECYCLE and it would just be found. The new format for the Support portal is something I am going to have to work at Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Roger Lowe > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 12:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How to find Life cycle dates for ibm products > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:27:44 -0700, Lizette Koehler > wrote: > > >I am trying to find lifecycles for products like Omegamon, IBM Debug > >Tool, Cobol Compilers, PL/I compilers and so forth > > > >I was able to find it in the past. Now I cannot seem to find it > > > >I have tried in http://www.ibm.com searching on > > > >Life cycle > > > >Lifecycle > > > >COBOL Life cycle > > > >And so forth. > > > >Nothing yet that I could see would be what I am looking for. > > > >Is there another way to find lifecycle information on IBM products? > > > > > Lizette, > Try https://www.ibm.com/support/home/pages/lifecycle/ > > Roger > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How to find Life cycle dates for ibm products
On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:27:44 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >I am trying to find lifecycles for products like Omegamon, IBM Debug Tool, >Cobol Compilers, PL/I compilers and so forth > >I was able to find it in the past. Now I cannot seem to find it > >I have tried in http://www.ibm.com searching on > >Life cycle > >Lifecycle > >COBOL Life cycle > >And so forth. > >Nothing yet that I could see would be what I am looking for. > >Is there another way to find lifecycle information on IBM products? > > Lizette, Try https://www.ibm.com/support/home/pages/lifecycle/ Roger -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How to find Life cycle dates for ibm products
When you say life cycles do you mean the product will go away > On Jul 28, 2019, at 12:52 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > > Here is COBOL and apologies for the formatting. > https://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycleapp/PLCDetail.wss?from=spf=B984385H82239E03. >CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity. > Original message From: Lizette Koehler > Date: 7/28/19 12:27 PM (GMT-05:00) To: > IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How to find Life cycle dates for ibm > products I am trying to find lifecycles for products like Omegamon, IBM > Debug Tool,Cobol Compilers, PL/I compilers and so forthI was able to find it > in the past. Now I cannot seem to find itI have tried in http://www.ibm.com > searching onLife cycle LifecycleCOBOL Life cycle And so forth.Nothing yet > that I could see would be what I am looking for.Is there another way to find > lifecycle information on IBM products?Lizette Koehlerstatistics: A precise > and logical method for stating a half-truth > inaccurately--For > IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How to find Life cycle dates for ibm products
Here is COBOL and apologies for the formatting. https://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycleapp/PLCDetail.wss?from=spf=B984385H82239E03. CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity. Original message From: Lizette Koehler Date: 7/28/19 12:27 PM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How to find Life cycle dates for ibm products I am trying to find lifecycles for products like Omegamon, IBM Debug Tool,Cobol Compilers, PL/I compilers and so forthI was able to find it in the past. Now I cannot seem to find itI have tried in http://www.ibm.com searching onLife cycle LifecycleCOBOL Life cycle And so forth.Nothing yet that I could see would be what I am looking for.Is there another way to find lifecycle information on IBM products?Lizette Koehlerstatistics: A precise and logical method for stating a half-truth inaccurately--For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
How to find Life cycle dates for ibm products
I am trying to find lifecycles for products like Omegamon, IBM Debug Tool, Cobol Compilers, PL/I compilers and so forth I was able to find it in the past. Now I cannot seem to find it I have tried in http://www.ibm.com searching on Life cycle Lifecycle COBOL Life cycle And so forth. Nothing yet that I could see would be what I am looking for. Is there another way to find lifecycle information on IBM products? Lizette Koehler statistics: A precise and logical method for stating a half-truth inaccurately -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
