Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-28 Thread Chris Bowen
Since IBM's File Manager supports the use of Assembler DSECTs to map data I would be surprised if Compuware's File-AID does not. Of course, it might be a chargeable feature. Our offering in this space (InSync) also supports mapping data using Assembler DSECTs but it is a fairly recent

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-26 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Subject: Re: IBM assembler copybook I agree; and, as I think I have mentioned here, there are indications that IBM COBOL may one day support Cowlishaw's DFP. About support for the bit strings and the like that are in the new COBOL standard I am less hopeful; but I have, of course, no 'inside

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-25 Thread Ron Thomas
The vsam file we having one of the fields data is stored in bits , i.e each bit value has a specific meaning 1 means the store is active else 'no' . We have fileaid utlity to view files . The data i am saying here is defined as 1250 bytes, so that 1 stores data can be stored . Suppose for

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-25 Thread Andy Wood
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:26:22 -0600, Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com wrote: The vsam file we having one of the fields data is stored in bits , i.e each bit value has a specific meaning 1 means the store is active else 'no' . We have fileaid utlity to view files . The data i am saying here is

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-25 Thread John Gilmore
I think Ron Thomas has in mind the fact that Enterprise COBOL does not [yet] support analogues of such PL/I constructions as declare byte aligned bit(8) based(bytep) ; declare bits8(8) bit based(bits8p) ; which provide immediate programmatic access to the individual bits in a byte. They

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-25 Thread John McKown
It is possible to test, set, reset, and shift bits in COBOL by using the LE subroutines: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/CEEA31B0/2.3 On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:11 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ron Thomas has in mind the fact that Enterprise

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-25 Thread Andy Wood
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 15:11:19 -0500, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ron Thomas has in mind the fact that Enterprise COBOL does not [yet] support analogues of such PL/I constructions as declare byte aligned bit(8) based(bytep) ; declare bits8(8) bit based(bits8p) ; which

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-25 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 14:16 -0600, John McKown wrote: It is possible to test, set, reset, and shift bits in COBOL by using the LE subroutines: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/CEEA31B0/2.3 Yes, but these are S-L-O-W. If you're doing much bit manipulation (and I'm

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-25 Thread John Gilmore
Yes, the LE routines and predecessor packages going back many years are available, but I have always found them all but unusable. Perhaps if they were rewritten now that Enterprise COBOL supports the data type function pointer, something better could be produced; but as they stand they are both

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-25 Thread Clark Morris
On 25 Feb 2014 13:45:44 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Yes, the LE routines and predecessor packages going back many years are available, but I have always found them all but unusable. Perhaps if they were rewritten now that Enterprise COBOL supports the data type function pointer,

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-25 Thread John Gilmore
I agree; and, as I think I have mentioned here, there are indications that IBM COBOL may one day support Cowlishaw's DFP. About support for the bit strings and the like that are in the new COBOL standard I am less hopeful; but I have, of course, no 'inside' information about what is planned.

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-25 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
File Aid purports to support PL/I copy books, I tried a quick test: DCL 1 RECORD, 2 BIT_FIELD1 BIT(8), 2 BIT_FIELD2 BIT(8), 2 BIT_FIELD3 BIT(8), 2 BIT_FIELD4 BIT(8); File Aid treats each field as PIC X(1). Subsequent to this, a HEX byte is not formatted bit by

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:15:07 +1100 Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote: :ASM to PL/I should be quite simple. :PL3 becomes FIXED DEC(3,0) etc. Not (5,?) ? :CL6 becomes CHAR(6), : :BL1 becomes BIT(8) (I think) : : : : :On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4528858360446052.wa.ron5174gmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 02/23/2014 at 11:23 AM, Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com said: Hello. I am new to assembler so not sure whether i am asking the right query? We have a assembler copybook and the corresponding file is a VSAM KSDS. I'm not sure what you

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cahtjz9lpe6q2ades818nb0a1pd1v3o2a27_7ktkptr3ctdo...@mail.gmail.com, on 02/24/2014 at 06:15 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com said: ASM to PL/I should be quite simple. PL3 becomes FIXED DEC(3,0) etc. WTF? PL3 is 24 bits; that's 5 digits and a sign. Why would it not be DEC(5)? --

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread DASDBILL2
Subject: Re: IBM assembler copybook In 4528858360446052.wa.ron5174gmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 02/23/2014    at 11:23 AM, Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com said: Hello. I am new to assembler so not sure whether i am asking the right query? We have a assembler copybook and the corresponding file

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
It would be DEC(5) I'm sure he'll work through this without taking everything literally. An ISPF edit macro could easily do the job CHANGE ALL PL3 FIXED DEC(5,0) ; etc.. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In

IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-23 Thread Ron Thomas
Hello. I am new to assembler so not sure whether i am asking the right query? We have a assembler copybook and the corresponding file is a VSAM KSDS. could someone let me know how to view the data in the file using this copybook ? Thanks Ron T

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-23 Thread Ron Thomas
to add , some of the fields in the copybook the data is stored in bit map. so please do let me know how to view this data ? Thanks Ron T -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-23 Thread Steve Comstock
On 2/23/2014 10:23 AM, Ron Thomas wrote: Hello. I am new to assembler so not sure whether i am asking the right query? We have a assembler copybook and the corresponding file is a VSAM KSDS. could someone let me know how to view the data in the file using this copybook ? Thanks Ron T

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-23 Thread Andy Wood
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 10:53:58 -0700, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: On 2/23/2014 10:23 AM, Ron Thomas wrote: . . . Really? I didn't think Assembler supported VSAM library source for copy files. Oh, wait. Are you z/OS or z/VSE? I suspect he may mean that the copybook contains

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-23 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
If you have IBM File Manager you can read the file using FM and give it the copy book as a template. Otherwise, you will need to perform an IDCAMS PRINT DUMP command and work out the contents from the copy book lay out and the dump format content. //DUMP EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-23 Thread zMan
How popular/common is IBM File Manager? Looks kinda neat, I just never came across it (but I tend to work at a different layer, so that proves little except that it likely isn't super-ubiquitous). On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote: If you have IBM File

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-23 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
We use the IBM Early Development Systems in Dallas, File Manager comes with the package. We have a customer who uses File Manager and it's also part of the ADCD set. For corporates, I guess it depends on cost/need since some shops will have 3rd party alternates like File Aid or Easytrieve etc. In

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-23 Thread Ron Thomas
We have fileaid and i belive it only supports cobol and PL/1. Can this copybook be converted to PL/1 and whether we can edit the bit maps and manupulate the same , i.e 1 byte 8 bits and each bit whether we can edit something ? Thanks Ron T

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-23 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
ASM to PL/I should be quite simple. PL3 becomes FIXED DEC(3,0) etc. CL6 becomes CHAR(6), BL1 becomes BIT(8) (I think) On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com wrote: We have fileaid and i belive it only supports cobol and PL/1. Can this copybook be converted to

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-23 Thread Martin Packer
And I think COBDFSYM has promise: Provides a way to map records based on COBOL Copybook for DFSORT. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: