Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread R.S.
Gil, Please, pay attention to "human-operated". I did not use MTL intentionally, for the reasons described below. ATL means Automated Tape Library. Sometimes people call it "robot". Sometimes it is VTS. Sometimes VTS don't have physical tapes at backend - so there is no physical robot. ATL

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 02:10:45 +0100, R.S. wrote: >IMHO it was the same error as nowadays: bad naming. >I didn't work with removable DASD, but I worked with physically >removable, human-operated tapes. And it was administrator responsibility >to have proper naming convention and unique volume

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread R.S.
, 2020 2:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME *** EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening links or attachments *** Hi Robinson, Good to know the experience you were with. Ops has a enough time to reply the WTORs in those particular lpars. Those

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Discussion List on behalf of Tony B. Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 6:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME Anyone else out there remember removable DASD, Pizza Ovens and 3340? Having duplicate volsers was more prone to human error at the physical level

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME I believe that this behavior is as old as OS/VS. I don't understand the logic except that it follows the principle that all connected devices are to be brought online unless specifically excluded in the (nowadays) IODF. It's all a bit

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
gram Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW > robin...@sce.com > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Steve Lee > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 2:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (E

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread Tony B.
2 Office ⇐=== NEW > robin...@sce.com > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Steve Lee > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 2:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME > > *** EXTERNAL EMAIL -

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread Peter X. DeFabritus
iscussion List On Behalf Of >> Steve Lee >> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 2:13 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: (External):Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME >> >> *** EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening links or attachments *** >> >> Hi R

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread Tom Brennan
Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Lee Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 2:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME *** EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening links

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
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Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 2:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME *** EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening links or attachments *** I wonder why

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-20 Thread Greg Price
On 2020-11-20 1:18 PM, Steve Lee wrote: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME 'RP@C03' FOUND ON DEVICES 3404 AND 4802. IEA213A REPLY DEVICE NUMBER WHICH IS TO REMAIN OFFLINE My memory is that you could even get these messages re duplicate volsers for the IPL volume. 3 guesses as to which one we wanted

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-20 Thread Steve Lee
Hi Robinson, Good to know the experience you were with. Ops has a enough time to reply the WTORs in those particular lpars. Those Volumes are 3400/3800/4800 strings, not all of volumes but some of ranges. I need to check with Storage if those has been CLIPped. These messages started

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-20 Thread Steve Smith
I wonder why the message asks for the unit to be kept *offline*. Seems like the inverse would be more logical. And what if you have ten volumes all named the same? Yes, this is merely a Friday curiosity. Presumably, the age-old maxim, "If it hurts, stop doing it" would cover most practical

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-20 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME *** EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening links or attachments *** Thanks Mark. Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

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2020-11-20 Thread Steve Lee
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Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-20 Thread Steve Lee
Thanks Mike, I have been waiting for the follow-up steps with Storage guys and will be updated back here. Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-20 Thread Steve Lee
Hi, Thank you for the explanation on this, it's very informative at this moment. I have been waiting for the follow-up steps with Storage guys and will be update back here. Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 20.11.2020 o 03:08, Steve Lee pisze: Dear, These messages come out at the time of IPL in past few IPL cycle; IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME 'RP@C03' FOUND ON DEVICES 3404 AND 4802. IEA213A REPLY DEVICE NUMBER WHICH IS TO REMAIN OFFLINE IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME 'RP@C04' FOUND ON DEVICES 3405

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-19 Thread Mike Schwab
past few IPL cycle; > > IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME 'RP@C03' FOUND ON DEVICES 3404 AND 4802. > IEA213A REPLY DEVICE NUMBER WHICH IS TO REMAIN OFFLINE > IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME 'RP@C04' FOUND ON DEVICES 3405 AND 4803. > IEA213A REPLY DEVICE NUMBER WHICH IS TO REMAIN OFFLINE > IEA

Re: IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-19 Thread Mark Jacobs
equ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Dear, > > These messages come out at the time of IPL in past few IPL cycle; > > IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME 'RP@C03' FOUND ON DEVICES 3404 AND 4802. > > IEA213A REPLY DEVICE NUMBER WHICH IS TO REMAIN OFFLINE > > IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME 'RP@C0

IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME

2020-11-19 Thread Steve Lee
Dear, These messages come out at the time of IPL in past few IPL cycle; IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME 'RP@C03' FOUND ON DEVICES 3404 AND 4802. IEA213A REPLY DEVICE NUMBER WHICH IS TO REMAIN OFFLINE IEA213A DUPLICATE VOLUME 'RP@C04' FOUND ON DEVICES 3405 AND 4803. IEA213A REPLY DEVICE NUMBER WHICH