Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-10 Thread Barbara Nitz
One problem we had was unequal usage on the available volumes. The first volumes considered by SMS were almost full, no way to fulfill the primary space allocation. There was enough space in volumes that SMS would have checked later, but before SMS got there, the volcount was reached. We ended

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-10 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jul 10, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Elaine Beal mailto:elaine.b...@gxs.com>> wrote: 451-System completion code and reason: B37-04 451-Data set is out of space. 451 Transfer aborted due to file error. This error means you didn’t ask for enough space. There can be plenty of space available, but if

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-10 Thread Rob Schramm
How about volumes in DISNEW or quiesed or not assigned to your system? Rob Schramm On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:04 PM Edward Finnell < 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Might want to look at fragmentation on target volumes. Even if it's > available the primary needs to be

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-10 Thread Edward Finnell
Might want to look at fragmentation on target volumes. Even if it's available the primary needs to be satisfied in 5 extents or less. I forget which field it is but you can actually sort on it from ISMF to see which volumes need attention;i.e. DEFRAG.  In a message dated 7/10/2019 1:50:04 PM

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you really think SMS is not honoring the space allocation, then you should open up a PMR to IBM to find out how to correct the behavior. I expect based on how SMS selects volumes, you may SEE volumes that look eligible, but SMS will not Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-10 Thread Elaine Beal
Update- there're are actually two errors. the one that actually says out of space 451-System completion code and reason: B37-04 451-Data set is out of space. 451 Transfer aborted due to file error. and I found that the FTP does submit a job with the primary specified but cannot get it even

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-10 Thread Clifford McNeill
The error is 550-SVC99 RETURN CODE=4 S99INFO=0 S99ERROR=38668 HEX=970C S99ERSN code X'012C'. 550 Unable to create data set OY72364.APTAR.L1.AIBILL.EXT for APPE command. It seems like SMS is not trying every volume in the storage group. --- Based on the error

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-10 Thread Elaine Beal
This is an FTP with I guess dynamic allocation (dataset does not exist) There are multiple volumes with available space when requested. The error is 550-SVC99 RETURN CODE=4 S99INFO=0 S99ERROR=38668 HEX=970C S99ERSN code X'012C'. 550 Unable to create data set OY72364.APTAR.L1.AIBILL.EXT

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-10 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 10/07/2019 7:19 am, Mike Schwab wrote: Could someone put in an RFE? When a dataset is deallocated (usually step end), there is a disposition message. I would like to see added to the message the ### Volumes, ### Extents, ###,###,###,### Tracks. To help in cases like this. There is

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-10 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Elaine, There can be enough space in the SG, but was the *requested* space available, on 1 volume, at that very moment? Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Elaine Beal > Sent: 09 July, 2019 21:08 > To:

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-09 Thread Lester, Bob
In our shop, the magic bullet is: 1) Dataclass has 1 volume, with dynamic volume count of 20. 2) Dataset is (or can be made) PSE. As others have said, check the allocation - both in the JCL and in the SMS data class used - if any. If the DSN is grossly underallocated in the

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-09 Thread Lizette Koehler
So the key for this message is REQUESTED SPACE QUANTITY = {KB|MB} What was in this message. Typically I find this message occurs when the volumes being selected do not have sufficient space for allocation. Also because the space parms are not tuned to handle daily usage vs. high water

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-09 Thread Mike Schwab
Could someone put in an RFE? When a dataset is deallocated (usually step end), there is a disposition message. I would like to see added to the message the ### Volumes, ### Extents, ###,###,###,### Tracks. To help in cases like this. On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 7:13 PM Elaine Beal wrote: > > I see

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-09 Thread Mike Schwab
What storage class is it assigned to, and what is the VOLCNT? If the VOLCNT is 1 then it must be allocated on 1 volume. On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 7:13 PM Elaine Beal wrote: > > I see you said a new allocation so of course I can't migrate it. > there are many volumes available in the storage group.

Re: [External] Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-09 Thread Wissink, Brad
Is your SMS routines setting the data set as multi-volume? If not then you need to do an IDCAMS ALTER on the data set to add multiple volues. Brad Wissink| Sr. Systems Programmer Sammons® Financial Group Member Companies 4350 Westown Pkwy | West Des Moines | IA 50266 Phone 515-267-2735 | ext.

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp [EXTERNAL]

2019-07-09 Thread Feller, Paul
Elaine, I'm sure you saw that the IGD17272I will tell you the allocation request (REQUESTED SPACE QUANTITY = {KB MB}). I'm sure you looked at that request size and at the time you looked the storage group had space. Could there be an issue that at the time of the failure the storage

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-09 Thread Elaine Beal
I see you said a new allocation so of course I can't migrate it. there are many volumes available in the storage group. it doesn't request multiple volumes.. why does it not search the group until it gets the requested space? Elaine

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-09 Thread Elaine Beal
Thanks Mike. This is a new allocation and there are many volumes it could extend to. Elaine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-09 Thread Mike Schwab
What would happen in our shop was the space request was for a small primary and small secondary (eg (TRK,(1,1))) and multiple volumes. The program writes the data, uses up all the extents, goes to the next volume and uses up all the extents, and repeats until it runs out of the number of volume

IGD17272I but lots of space in storgrp

2019-07-09 Thread Elaine Beal
We are getting this message even though there is a LOT of contiguous space available in the storage group. We get this periodically and adding a volume seems to relieve the immediate request. Thanks, Elaine -- For IBM-MAIN