Re: Important hardware question
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 21:14:35 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >You can use another model's stool only if it's inverse left-handed as clearly >required in the tech doc for that CPU. So there. "I am his mentor, Hippocrates. I sent him to school where he learned to stand up for principle and to sit down on his own stool." ~~ The Firesign Theater, I Think We're All Bozos On This Bus. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Important hardware question
Hi Everyone, As the original poster, this was indeed tongue-in-cheek. I'm always amazed how a simple question on this list can cause discussions that, sometimes, have nothing to do with the original question. Have a great day, week , month, year. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Important hardware question Skip, I'm with you. I thought it was tongue-in-cheek as well, but when somebody posted a serious response about static electricity, I just thought I'd allay their concerns. My wife really likes those old stools, and we've had a couple of the ladders mysteriously disappear over the years. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 4:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: Important hardware question Am I the only (other) person who thought OP's original question was a tongue in cheek put-on? My first boss in IT allowed as to how in her family, the worst thing that could befall someone was failing to realize when their leg was being pulled. She grew up assuming that every implausible proposition she encountered was a joke. So she occasionally found herself guffawing at a notion whose exponent turned out to be dead pan serious. To her embarrassment. OK. You can use another model's stool only if it's inverse left-handed as clearly required in the tech doc for that CPU. So there. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [External] Re: Important hardware question I have a couple of these stools from older mainframes, and unless Gadi's has been modified, it should be OK. They had rubber wheels on them, and there was a rubber skirt around the base of the stool that should keep any static electricity - static. Le 03/09/2019 à 20:24, Farley, Peter x23353 a écrit : > Gadi, > > I would think the only important criteria is that if the stool is made of > conducting metal, is it properly grounded? Don't want any stray static > charges in the frame, that would be Very Bad. metal doesn't keep static charges. your wool suit however... Raph -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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A very old, but still funny one: (supposed to be from an IBM Memo :-)> ) Abstract: Mouse Balls Available as FRU (Field Replacement Unit) Mouse balls are now available as FRU. Therefore, if a mouse fails to operate or should it perform erratically, it may need a ball replacement. Because of the delicate nature of this procedure, replacement of mouse balls should only be attempted by properly trained personnel. Before proceeding, determine the type of mouse balls by examining the underside of the mouse. Domestic balls will be larger and harder than foreign balls. Ball removal procedures differ depending upon manufacturer of the mouse. Foreign balls can be replaced using the pop-off method. Domestic balls are replaced using the twist-off method. Mouse balls are not usually static sensitive. However, excessive handling can result in sudden discharge. Upon completion of ball replacement, the mouse may be used immediately. It is recommended that each replacer have a pair of spare balls for maintaining optimum customer satisfaction, and that any customer missing his balls should suspect local personnel of removing these necessary items. To re-order, specify one of the following: P/N 33F8462 – Domestic Mouse Balls P/N 33F8461 – Foreign Mouse Balls -- Dale R. Smith -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Skip, I'm with you. I thought it was tongue-in-cheek as well, but when somebody posted a serious response about static electricity, I just thought I'd allay their concerns. My wife really likes those old stools, and we've had a couple of the ladders mysteriously disappear over the years. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 4:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: Important hardware question Am I the only (other) person who thought OP's original question was a tongue in cheek put-on? My first boss in IT allowed as to how in her family, the worst thing that could befall someone was failing to realize when their leg was being pulled. She grew up assuming that every implausible proposition she encountered was a joke. So she occasionally found herself guffawing at a notion whose exponent turned out to be dead pan serious. To her embarrassment. OK. You can use another model's stool only if it's inverse left-handed as clearly required in the tech doc for that CPU. So there. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [External] Re: Important hardware question I have a couple of these stools from older mainframes, and unless Gadi's has been modified, it should be OK. They had rubber wheels on them, and there was a rubber skirt around the base of the stool that should keep any static electricity - static. Le 03/09/2019 à 20:24, Farley, Peter x23353 a écrit : > Gadi, > > I would think the only important criteria is that if the stool is made of > conducting metal, is it properly grounded? Don't want any stray static > charges in the frame, that would be Very Bad. metal doesn't keep static charges. your wool suit however... Raph -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Important hardware question
Am I the only (other) person who thought OP's original question was a tongue in cheek put-on? My first boss in IT allowed as to how in her family, the worst thing that could befall someone was failing to realize when their leg was being pulled. She grew up assuming that every implausible proposition she encountered was a joke. So she occasionally found herself guffawing at a notion whose exponent turned out to be dead pan serious. To her embarrassment. OK. You can use another model's stool only if it's inverse left-handed as clearly required in the tech doc for that CPU. So there. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [External] Re: Important hardware question I have a couple of these stools from older mainframes, and unless Gadi's has been modified, it should be OK. They had rubber wheels on them, and there was a rubber skirt around the base of the stool that should keep any static electricity - static. Le 03/09/2019 à 20:24, Farley, Peter x23353 a écrit : > Gadi, > > I would think the only important criteria is that if the stool is made of > conducting metal, is it properly grounded? Don't want any stray static > charges in the frame, that would be Very Bad. metal doesn't keep static charges. your wool suit however... Raph -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I have a couple of these stools from older mainframes, and unless Gadi's has been modified, it should be OK. They had rubber wheels on them, and there was a rubber skirt around the base of the stool that should keep any static electricity - static. Le 03/09/2019 à 20:24, Farley, Peter x23353 a écrit : > Gadi, > > I would think the only important criteria is that if the stool is made of > conducting metal, is it properly grounded? Don't want any stray static > charges in the frame, that would be Very Bad. metal doesn't keep static charges. your wool suit however... Raph -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I am not sure we can answer this question intelligently without a . stool sample Thank You, Chris Hoelscher| Lead Database Administrator | IBM Global Technical Services| T 502.476.2538 or 502.407.7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Raphaël Jacquot Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] [External] Re: Important hardware question Le 03/09/2019 à 20:24, Farley, Peter x23353 a écrit : > Gadi, > > I would think the only important criteria is that if the stool is made of > conducting metal, is it properly grounded? Don't want any stray static > charges in the frame, that would be Very Bad. metal doesn't keep static charges. your wool suit however... Raph -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. Humana Inc. and its subsidiaries comply with applicable Federal civil rights laws and do not discriminate on the basis of race, color, national origin, age, disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or religion. Humana Inc. and its subsidiaries do not exclude people or treat them differently because of race, color, national origin, age, disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or religion. English: ATTENTION: If you do not speak English, language assistance services, free of charge, are available to you. Call 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). Español (Spanish): ATENCIÓN: Si habla español, tiene a su disposición servicios gratuitos de asistencia lingüística. Llame al 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). 繁體中文(Chinese)：注意：如果您使用繁體中文，您可以免費獲得語言援助 服務。請致電 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711)。 Kreyòl Ayisyen (Haitian Creole): ATANSION: Si w pale Kreyòl Ayisyen, gen sèvis èd pou lang ki disponib gratis pou ou. Rele 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). Polski (Polish): UWAGA: Jeżeli mówisz po polsku, możesz skorzystać z bezpłatnej pomocy językowej. Zadzwoń pod numer 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711). 한국어 (Korean): 주의: 한국어를 사용하시는 경우, 언어 지원 서비스를 무료로 이용하실 수 있습니다. 1‐877‐320‐1235 (TTY: 711)번으로 전화해 주십시오. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Like, man, isn't any stored electricity kind of static? Until it's not, anyway... On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 3:09 PM Raphaël Jacquot wrote: > Le 03/09/2019 à 21:06, Paul Gilmartin a écrit : > > >> metal doesn't keep static charges. your wool suit however... > >> > > Errr... : > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator > > in which case the static electricity is stored within the belt > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Le 03/09/2019 à 21:06, Paul Gilmartin a écrit : metal doesn't keep static charges. your wool suit however... Errr... : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator in which case the static electricity is stored within the belt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [External] Re: Important hardware question
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 20:52:50 +0200, Raphaël Jacquot wrote: >Le 03/09/2019 à 20:24, Farley, Peter x23353 a écrit : >> Gadi, >> >> I would think the only important criteria is that if the stool is made of >> conducting metal, is it properly grounded? Don't want any stray static >> charges in the frame, that would be Very Bad. > >metal doesn't keep static charges. your wool suit however... > Errr... : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Le 03/09/2019 à 20:24, Farley, Peter x23353 a écrit : Gadi, I would think the only important criteria is that if the stool is made of conducting metal, is it properly grounded? Don't want any stray static charges in the frame, that would be Very Bad. metal doesn't keep static charges. your wool suit however... Raph -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Gadi, I would think the only important criteria is that if the stool is made of conducting metal, is it properly grounded? Don't want any stray static charges in the frame, that would be Very Bad. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 2:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: Important hardware question Are you sure about that? I didn't think the ladder or stool were CPU serial dependent. I'm in trouble then if our z14 ever needs repair because I shipped the z14's ladder back with the z12 it replaced and we kept the 12's ladder. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: Important hardware question Only if you install an RPQ. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 6:43 AM Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > Is it OK to use the stool that came with a z890 to repair a z13s? > The ladder that came with the z13s has gone missing. > > Gadi -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Are you sure about that? I didn't think the ladder or stool were CPU serial dependent. I'm in trouble then if our z14 ever needs repair because I shipped the z14's ladder back with the z12 it replaced and we kept the 12's ladder. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: Important hardware question Only if you install an RPQ. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 6:43 AM Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > Is it OK to use the stool that came with a z890 to repair a z13s? > The ladder that came with the z13s has gone missing. > > Gadi > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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LOL Those orange ladders are really good quality. I'm always tempted to take one home with me. On 9/3/2019 10:54 AM, zMan wrote: Only if you install an RPQ. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 6:43 AM Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: Is it OK to use the stool that came with a z890 to repair a z13s? The ladder that came with the z13s has gone missing. Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Only if you install an RPQ. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 6:43 AM Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > Is it OK to use the stool that came with a z890 to repair a z13s? > The ladder that came with the z13s has gone missing. > > Gadi > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Important hardware question
Is it OK to use the stool that came with a z890 to repair a z13s? The ladder that came with the z13s has gone missing. Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
