Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, at 23:57, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > Similarly, I once created a data set such as: > DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=hlq.X.FOO-BAR > No problem. Later, I tried > DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=hlq.Y.FOO-BAR, >DCB=hlq.X.FOO-BAR > Again, the hyphen caused a syntax error. The re

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Don Leahy
> Subject: Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was > LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? > > > > I *think* it remembers the option on the main panel, assuming you actually > exit ISPF rather than 622'ing. > > > >

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
ussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 1:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? I *think* it remembers the option on the main pan

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Charles Mills
Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 11:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 10:51:36 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 10:51:36 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >For dataset delete from 3.4? > >On the main panel > >Enter "/" to select option >/ Confirm Data Set Delete >/ Confirm Member Delete > >And on the delete panel > >Enter "/" to select option > Set data s

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Charles Mills
U] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 8:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 13:59:02 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
- was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 15:44:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Applications should diagnose but not "correct" user errors, and should use >comoon system services to do so, where they exist. OS developers should

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 15:44:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Applications should diagnose but not "correct" user errors, and should use >comoon system services to do so, where they exist. OS developers should >provide services for validation. Neither application developers nor OS >developers sho

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 9:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Charles Mills
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:01:09 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 13:59:02 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: > >OK, thanks. I hadn't considered the "I'm going to because I can" angle, >namely because I'm more of the "why would you even want to do that, even if >you can, it'll cause problems." Kind of guy. But I know the adage, every time >somebo

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
mething foolproof, the universe comes up with a bigger fool. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 5:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:01:09 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: >On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >>Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or >>create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error >>back to the user. Applic

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or >create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error >back to the user. Application filename validation is what leads to these >inconsiste

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 19:58:06 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >>Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or >>create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error >>back to the user. App

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread David Crayford
sistencies. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 3:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concaten

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or >create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error >back to the user. Application filename validation is what leads to these >inconsisten

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Charles Mills
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 3:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? On Tue, 29 Sep

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 21:28:26 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: > >Serious question - what would be the purpose for doing this? I know you can, >I'm just trying to grasp a good reason for doing so. Security by obscurity >(not valid in my mind)? > Because it's possible. Someone will do it. Test suite

blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Pommier, Rex
Gil, Serious question - what would be the purpose for doing this? I know you can, I'm just trying to grasp a good reason for doing so. Security by obscurity (not valid in my mind)? Thanks, Rex Alas, the padding and stripping mean that 'WOMBAT', 'WOMBAT ', and 'WOMBAT ', distinct UNIX

Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
equ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 19:48:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Broken As Designed (BAD). It actually takes less code

Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 19:48:31 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Broken As Designed (BAD). It actually takes less code to do it right than to >do it wrong with the current level of DFSMSdfp, although the broken code >already exists. RFE? DESERV? Does DESERV support wildcards, needed by ISRDDN? I

Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 9:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:15:43 +, P

Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:15:43 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: >Robert, > >IDK if this specifically LMMINIT, but when I enter ISRDDN and try to browse a >library concatenation with greater than 16 libraries in it, I get this: > >Only the first sixteen data sets are shown in this list. ISRDDN uses ISPF

Re: LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
on behalf of Robert Prins Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 5:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? Came across this in an edit macro, and the existing code works around it by using QBASELIB and testing each dataset in the

Re: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-28 Thread Pommier, Rex
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets? Came across this in an edit macro, and the existing code works around it by using QBASELIB and testing each dataset in the ISPPLIB concatenation separately for a selected member. Does

LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-28 Thread Robert Prins
Came across this in an edit macro, and the existing code works around it by using QBASELIB and testing each dataset in the ISPPLIB concatenation separately for a selected member. Does anyone know if this limit of 16 is still present, I don't really have a way to test this right now. Thanks,