Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
The engineers tell me that for GP engines, LPAR dispatches the core as SMT-1 regardless of whether the partition is SMT-1 (PROCVIEW CPU) or SMT-2 (PROCVIEW CORE). And I wouldn't expect there to be much zIIP eligible work during system initialization, It is true that in PROCVIEW CORE, there are two zIIP threads online to z/OS, so one more to SIGP to for things that z/OS has to broadcast to all online threads. But I would not expect that to make much difference. The system trace in a dump taken while things are slow might provide some clues. Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> wrote on 02/17/2017 08:49:04 AM: > From: Carmen Vitullo <cvitu...@hughes.net> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 02/17/2017 03:39 PM > Subject: Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > all attempts to respond via email fails - > > Peter; > I'm going to assume you're asking me? > > we have a z13s U03 5 MSU's on a TEST LPAR > I have 1 shared GP engine and one shared Ziip, IPLing was very slow, > so slow that some processes that use USS services took so long to > initialize other tasks failed, or would not initialize, once TCP and > TSO were finally up logon took forever, backing out the change > PROCVIEW CORE with no other changes everything came up as normal > I'm Z/os 2.1 RSU1611 > contact me offline if you need, I have syslog/operlog if you want > Carmen > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SAG - QVS vs. D M=CPU [was: Layout CPC serial number z13S]
Caveat: daily list digestion leads to backups in responses... *grin* Brian: You may already know [1] but SAG actually uses the QVS interface to query the machine. There is a sample NATQVS program [2] where you can see the results it reports. Perhaps, if the old machine is still available, you could compare the two to see what is being reported. QVS reports both LPAR & Hardware values which can be different because of capping. (I think it even reported that z/VM was guesting.) ps. If you didn't already know, SYSTP has the "L - Natural License Information" option to query the licence contents. You could see what it has for vs. the QVS information. [1] I would have expected SAG to request that information on your SR with them. [2] somewhere. You could SYSMAIN Find for it. We used it for testing, under z/VM, to see how NAT425/MLC would respond if we accidentally used OOCoD to boost beyond our licence values. Very effective. > signature = 8 lines follows < Neil Duffee, Joe Sysprog, uOttawa, Ottawa, Ont, Canada telephone:1 613 562 5800 x4585 fax:1 613 562 5161 mailto:NDuffee of uOttawa.ca http:/ /aix1.uOttawa.ca/ ~nduffee “How *do* you plan for something like that?” Guardian Bob, Reboot “For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.” “Systems Programming: Guilty, until proven innocent” John Norgauer 2004 "Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted." John McKown 2015 -Original Message- From: Brian France [mailto:bw...@psu...edu] Sent: February 15, 2017 08:28 Subject: Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S We just installed this past Monday. No key issues sans working with SAG to get rid of a message of one product that thinks it's on our D/R machine but is running fine. See below the D M=CPU. I believe it to be the same as it was. D M=CPU IEE174I 08.20.55 DISPLAY M 090 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + xx2965 01 +Ixx2965 xx = lpar id = last 4 of 5 digits of serial number On 2/15/2017 8:02 AM, Ron van der Zande wrote: > does somebody has an example of the D m=CPU display on a z13S? > Got serial numbers from the new to be installed machines but serial numbers > setup seems to be changed and not as I expected. Layout and values important > for our software suppliers to deliver new software keys. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
all attempts to respond via email fails - Peter; I'm going to assume you're asking me? we have a z13s U03 5 MSU's on a TEST LPAR I have 1 shared GP engine and one shared Ziip, IPLing was very slow, so slow that some processes that use USS services took so long to initialize other tasks failed, or would not initialize, once TCP and TSO were finally up logon took forever, backing out the change PROCVIEW CORE with no other changes everything came up as normal I'm Z/os 2.1 RSU1611 contact me offline if you need, I have syslog/operlog if you want Carmen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
>we've tried to test this options on a small test LPAR sharing >one zIIP engine, we did not like the results, Could you please elaborate on what you did not like about the results? Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
Thanks all for the answers. Got another company having 84 as start of serial number so looks ok for me now. Regards Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
Thanks Tom - Original Message - From: "Tom Marchant" <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:40:25 AM Subject: Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:14:52 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >Tom are you using PROCVIEW CORE? Yes. PROCVIEW CORE,CPU_OK -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 11:14:52 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >Tom are you using PROCVIEW CORE? Yes. PROCVIEW CORE,CPU_OK -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
That begs a question from me , Tom are you using PROCVIEW CORE? we've tired to test this options on a small test LPAR sharing one zIIP engine, we did not like the results, so I wonder how it works out on a larger LPAR thanks Carmen - Original Message - From: "Tom Marchant" <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:05:13 AM Subject: Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S On our z13s, D M=CPU returns this format: CORE STATUS: HD=h MT=mm [MODE: CP=cn zIIP=zin] ID ST ID RANGE VP ISCM CPU THREAD STATUS cId wst tIdL-tIdH vp tt cId wst tIdL-tIdH vp tt cId wst tIdL-tIdH vp tt CPC ND = tt.nnn.mmm.pp.ss CPC SI = .... Model: CPC ID = ii CPC NAME = cpc_name CPC IS RUNNING AT dd% OF NORMAL EFFECTIVENESS LP NAME = lp_na LP ID = jj CSS ID = cc MIF ID = m https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieam700/iee174i36.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
On our z13s, D M=CPU returns this format: CORE STATUS: HD=h MT=mm [MODE: CP=cn zIIP=zin] IDSTID RANGE VP ISCM CPU THREAD STATUS cId wst tIdL-tIdH vp tt cId wst tIdL-tIdH vp tt cId wst tIdL-tIdH vp tt CPC ND = tt.nnn.mmm.pp.ss CPC SI = .... Model: CPC ID = ii CPC NAME = cpc_name CPC IS RUNNING AT dd% OF NORMAL EFFECTIVENESS LP NAME = lp_na LP ID = jj CSS ID = cc MIF ID = m https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieam700/iee174i36.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
W dniu 2017-02-16 o 08:42, Ron van der Zande pisze: Thanks for the answers. Layout as I expected. But serial numbers I got still looking strange. Layout 84y and 02y to be seen in D m=cpu before model at every cpu menthioned The y might be 8 for BASIC mode and 9 for LPAR mode but about this I am not sure if this is still the case. 84 and 02 was the IBM plant number. 02 I see in your displays but 84 looks strange to me. In Europe 51 machine build in Montpellier (France). 51 *was* Montpellier, de factory does not exist anymore (been there, seen that). 83 was Ireland 84 is Singapore. BTW: the layout of CPC number is not changed for z13s, is it? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2016 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.955.696 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
I think 84 is for Singapore. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
Thanks for the answers. Layout as I expected. But serial numbers I got still looking strange. Layout 84y and 02y to be seen in D m=cpu before model at every cpu menthioned The y might be 8 for BASIC mode and 9 for LPAR mode but about this I am not sure if this is still the case. 84 and 02 was the IBM plant number. 02 I see in your displays but 84 looks strange to me. In Europe 51 machine build in Montpellier (France). Regards, Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
z13's and z13s's are different models, analogous to the EC12 and BC12. Names are very confusing, as was discussed here at the time of the z13s announcement. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S must have coffee before I start to type :( we went from a 114 and a z10 to 2 z13s's and don't recall the format or layout changed, but here's an example there's a different model number from the z13 and z13s, maybe that's what's confusing IEE174I 07.28.35 DISPLAY M 051 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + 0x2965 01 + 0xx2965 02 + 0xx2965 03 +I 0xx2965 04 N 05 NI 06 NI CPC ND = 002965.N10.IBM.02.000x CPC SI = 2965.U03.IBM.02.000x HTH's Carmen - Original Message -- - Original Message - From: "Carmen Vitullo" <cvitu...@hughes.net> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:31:26 AM Subject: Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S we sent from a 114 and a z10 to 2 z13s's and don't recall the format or layout changed, but here's an example there's a different model number from the z13 and z13s, maybe that's what's confusing IEE174I 07.28.35 DISPLAY M 051 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + 0x2965 01 + 0xx2965 02 + 0xx2965 03 +I 0xx2965 04 N 05 NI 06 NI CPC ND = 002965.N10.IBM.02.000x CPC SI = 2965.U03.IBM.02.000x HTH's Carmen - Original Message - From: "Ron van der Zande" <ron-van-der.za...@klm.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:02:12 AM Subject: Layout CPC serial number z13S LS; does somebody has an example of the D m=CPU display on a z13S? Got serial numbers from the new to be installed machines but serial numbers setup seems to be changed and not as I expected. Layout and values important for our software suppliers to deliver new software keys. Regards Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
must have coffee before I start to type :( we went from a 114 and a z10 to 2 z13s's and don't recall the format or layout changed, but here's an example there's a different model number from the z13 and z13s, maybe that's what's confusing IEE174I 07.28.35 DISPLAY M 051 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + 0x2965 01 + 0xx2965 02 + 0xx2965 03 +I 0xx2965 04 N 05 NI 06 NI CPC ND = 002965.N10.IBM.02.000x CPC SI = 2965.U03.IBM.02.000x HTH's Carmen - Original Message -- - Original Message - From: "Carmen Vitullo" <cvitu...@hughes.net> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:31:26 AM Subject: Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S we sent from a 114 and a z10 to 2 z13s's and don't recall the format or layout changed, but here's an example there's a different model number from the z13 and z13s, maybe that's what's confusing IEE174I 07.28.35 DISPLAY M 051 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + 0x2965 01 + 0xx2965 02 + 0xx2965 03 +I 0xx2965 04 N 05 NI 06 NI CPC ND = 002965.N10.IBM.02.000x CPC SI = 2965.U03.IBM.02.000x HTH's Carmen - Original Message - From: "Ron van der Zande" <ron-van-der.za...@klm.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:02:12 AM Subject: Layout CPC serial number z13S LS; does somebody has an example of the D m=CPU display on a z13S? Got serial numbers from the new to be installed machines but serial numbers setup seems to be changed and not as I expected. Layout and values important for our software suppliers to deliver new software keys. Regards Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
we sent from a 114 and a z10 to 2 z13s's and don't recall the format or layout changed, but here's an example there's a different model number from the z13 and z13s, maybe that's what's confusing IEE174I 07.28.35 DISPLAY M 051 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + 0x2965 01 + 0xx2965 02 + 0xx2965 03 +I 0xx2965 04 N 05 NI 06 NI CPC ND = 002965.N10.IBM.02.000x CPC SI = 2965.U03.IBM.02.000x HTH's Carmen - Original Message - From: "Ron van der Zande" <ron-van-der.za...@klm.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:02:12 AM Subject: Layout CPC serial number z13S LS; does somebody has an example of the D m=CPU display on a z13S? Got serial numbers from the new to be installed machines but serial numbers setup seems to be changed and not as I expected. Layout and values important for our software suppliers to deliver new software keys. Regards Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Layout CPC serial number z13S
We just installed this past Monday. No key issues sans working with SAG to get rid of a message of one product that thinks it's on our D/R machine but is running fine. See below the D M=CPU. I believe it to be the same as it was. D M=CPU IEE174I 08.20.55 DISPLAY M 090 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + xx2965 01 +Ixx2965 xx = lpar id = last 4 of 5 digits of serial number On 2/15/2017 8:02 AM, Ron van der Zande wrote: LS; does somebody has an example of the D m=CPU display on a z13S? Got serial numbers from the new to be installed machines but serial numbers setup seems to be changed and not as I expected. Layout and values important for our software suppliers to deliver new software keys. Regards Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edu "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Layout CPC serial number z13S
LS; does somebody has an example of the D m=CPU display on a z13S? Got serial numbers from the new to be installed machines but serial numbers setup seems to be changed and not as I expected. Layout and values important for our software suppliers to deliver new software keys. Regards Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
