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On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, at 20:00, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF > dialogs that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It > has regexen, but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major > PC languages. I would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers > would revive it, but as I understand it there are legal issues that > make it unlikely. Ah, Tritus...I should have remembered that. If one Googles for it there's several hits but only on iffy sites that look as if they want people to pay to download something, eg https://pserritirou.tk/family/tritus-spf.php I also stumbled across "Capable Worthy Text Editor" http://cwtexteditor.sourceforge.net/index.html which I don't think I've heard of before - open source - apparently works under both Windows & Linux/Unix etc via X⋅Window (X11). It looks like it has an editor and a files-list/dir / ispf 3.4 utility, but I saw no sign of any REXX or dialog support. There's also uni-SPF etc as described at: http://www.wrkgrp.com/index.html but I see the website page-footer copyright date is 2013.I downloaded some manuals but their production dates are 2002. Goodness knows if the products still exist. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I got this sometime in the late eighties or early nineties. No, didn't get an upgrade. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS [External Email] Didn't you get the free upgrade? Have you had problems running the 32 bit windoze version of TSPF on a 32 bit windoze? I recall having successfully done so once on either 7 or vista (I don't recall which). -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS I still have the original Tritus ISPF with the 5.25 and 3.5 diskettes. I have to run it under DOS Box. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS [External Email] It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports. If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers". for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS How well does http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Yj7f9keIh_ZHN-4COJ4EKV7tBbfIAjMpTNBVys_oKhPxLVL0raBDlc7_cRph9f_2IGjAw6E4FPQtK0bkOEq80eEwHYpA1DeGQZTqjixs9XMO2aHcd2Ebw7B3Uk14PDKjRf_SfRvOCBAtDSfnyJah2qCBygV5j5-r3dFR8p2vx3ov_zFM_7EWfdK7_M_e_8FvEfGgihEXptOBil4eOv35X6dFbOppysJ5wD5Zo2m4DCFJ29yhyBKP1PegJY_8aBQBzzbkNJVMQlyKJRBU5AGTx4vBFYbOSGzyP1y7WIBqEmFN9PJAJe4nyHHa789vm8v36ChQrC58z6Oqy_dj3JlCVoKtRHbGhs10BjtX0sLRLVDY2T7Ycuhmkaepf2ySk4Pz/http%3A%2F%2Fspflite.com%2F work for you? On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs > that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, > but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I > would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I > understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely. > > If Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be > fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for > the utility functions. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of Jeremy Nicoll > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF > > Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ? > > -- > Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail mess
Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
Didn't you get the free upgrade? Have you had problems running the 32 bit windoze version of TSPF on a 32 bit windoze? I recall having successfully done so once on either 7 or vista (I don't recall which). -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of PINION, RICHARD W. Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS I still have the original Tritus ISPF with the 5.25 and 3.5 diskettes. I have to run it under DOS Box. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS [External Email] It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports. If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers". for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS How well does http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Yj7f9keIh_ZHN-4COJ4EKV7tBbfIAjMpTNBVys_oKhPxLVL0raBDlc7_cRph9f_2IGjAw6E4FPQtK0bkOEq80eEwHYpA1DeGQZTqjixs9XMO2aHcd2Ebw7B3Uk14PDKjRf_SfRvOCBAtDSfnyJah2qCBygV5j5-r3dFR8p2vx3ov_zFM_7EWfdK7_M_e_8FvEfGgihEXptOBil4eOv35X6dFbOppysJ5wD5Zo2m4DCFJ29yhyBKP1PegJY_8aBQBzzbkNJVMQlyKJRBU5AGTx4vBFYbOSGzyP1y7WIBqEmFN9PJAJe4nyHHa789vm8v36ChQrC58z6Oqy_dj3JlCVoKtRHbGhs10BjtX0sLRLVDY2T7Ycuhmkaepf2ySk4Pz/http%3A%2F%2Fspflite.com%2F work for you? On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs > that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, > but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I > would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I > understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely. > > If Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be > fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for > the utility functions. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of Jeremy Nicoll > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF > > Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ? > > -- > Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your computer. -- F
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I still have the original Tritus ISPF with the 5.25 and 3.5 diskettes. I have to run it under DOS Box. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS [External Email] It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports. If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers". for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS How well does http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Yj7f9keIh_ZHN-4COJ4EKV7tBbfIAjMpTNBVys_oKhPxLVL0raBDlc7_cRph9f_2IGjAw6E4FPQtK0bkOEq80eEwHYpA1DeGQZTqjixs9XMO2aHcd2Ebw7B3Uk14PDKjRf_SfRvOCBAtDSfnyJah2qCBygV5j5-r3dFR8p2vx3ov_zFM_7EWfdK7_M_e_8FvEfGgihEXptOBil4eOv35X6dFbOppysJ5wD5Zo2m4DCFJ29yhyBKP1PegJY_8aBQBzzbkNJVMQlyKJRBU5AGTx4vBFYbOSGzyP1y7WIBqEmFN9PJAJe4nyHHa789vm8v36ChQrC58z6Oqy_dj3JlCVoKtRHbGhs10BjtX0sLRLVDY2T7Ycuhmkaepf2ySk4Pz/http%3A%2F%2Fspflite.com%2F work for you? On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs > that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, > but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I > would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I > understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely. > > If Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be > fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for > the utility functions. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of Jeremy Nicoll > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF > > Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ? > > -- > Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your computer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports. If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers". for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS How well does http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Yj7f9keIh_ZHN-4COJ4EKV7tBbfIAjMpTNBVys_oKhPxLVL0raBDlc7_cRph9f_2IGjAw6E4FPQtK0bkOEq80eEwHYpA1DeGQZTqjixs9XMO2aHcd2Ebw7B3Uk14PDKjRf_SfRvOCBAtDSfnyJah2qCBygV5j5-r3dFR8p2vx3ov_zFM_7EWfdK7_M_e_8FvEfGgihEXptOBil4eOv35X6dFbOppysJ5wD5Zo2m4DCFJ29yhyBKP1PegJY_8aBQBzzbkNJVMQlyKJRBU5AGTx4vBFYbOSGzyP1y7WIBqEmFN9PJAJe4nyHHa789vm8v36ChQrC58z6Oqy_dj3JlCVoKtRHbGhs10BjtX0sLRLVDY2T7Ycuhmkaepf2ySk4Pz/http%3A%2F%2Fspflite.com%2F work for you? On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs > that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, > but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I > would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I > understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely. > > If Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be > fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for > the utility functions. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Jeremy Nicoll > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF > > Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ? > > -- > Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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How well does http://spflite.com/ work for you? On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs > that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, > but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I > would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I > understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely. > > If Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be > fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for > the utility functions. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Jeremy Nicoll > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF > > Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ? > > -- > Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely. If Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for the utility functions. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jeremy Nicoll Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote: > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ? -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:55:31 +, Jousma, David wrote: >What is that feature code? > >>That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 >>up and operational. >> >Not only will you need zOS 2.4 but also a z14 and hardware F/C 0104 (which is >chargeable). > F/C 0104 is the Container Hosting Foundation - https://www.ibm.com/support/z-content-solutions/container-extensions/ Roger -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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What is that feature code? _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roger Lowe Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:58:28 +, Jousma, David wrote: >That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 >up and operational. > Not only will you need zOS 2.4 but also a z14 and hardware F/C 0104 (which is chargeable). Roger -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:58:28 +, Jousma, David wrote: >That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 >up and operational. > Not only will you need zOS 2.4 but also a z14 and hardware F/C 0104 (which is chargeable). Roger -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 up and operational. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** If it needs linux and if you want to keep it under z/OS why not a container. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=6d967638-31ca8237-6d965ca0-0cc47a33347c-61a00828e04fde64=http://www.lbdsoftware.com/ "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edgington, Jerry Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS You are probably correct. I haven't installed DBB server component in years, but now that you said that, I do remember some issues with trying to run DBB server under USS or even Linux on Z. There are some Java component missing. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Babcock Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be built and run during testing. The server component, I was told, doesn’t run under USS. Am I being misinformed? On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and > Java/Groovy Classes. The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't > have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar > files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP > connectivity to the DBB server. > > I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help > anyone or not, but here is the link. I also have a lot more > information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact > me offline. > https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=ee387839-b2648c36-ee3852a1-0cc47a33 > 347c-23124c3b87ab82de=https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops > -tools-zos > > Thanks, > Jerry Edgington > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Michael Babcock > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS > > We are doing the same thing as Dave as well. I was under the impression > that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case. Linux > only. DBB Tollkit runs under USS though. > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < > jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > > > Dave, > > > > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would > > be happy to talk with you. > > > > Jerry Edgington > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of Jousma, David > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS > > > > All, > > > > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application > > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, > > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the > > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security > > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, > > and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this > > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) > > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline > > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the > > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be > > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management > > process", etc. > > > > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, > > and would interested in sharing some information off-list? > > > > Thanks, Dave >
Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
If it needs linux and if you want to keep it under z/OS why not a container. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edgington, Jerry Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS You are probably correct. I haven't installed DBB server component in years, but now that you said that, I do remember some issues with trying to run DBB server under USS or even Linux on Z. There are some Java component missing. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Babcock Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be built and run during testing. The server component, I was told, doesn’t run under USS. Am I being misinformed? On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and > Java/Groovy Classes. The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't > have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar > files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP > connectivity to the DBB server. > > I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help > anyone or not, but here is the link. I also have a lot more > information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact > me offline. > https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos > > Thanks, > Jerry Edgington > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Michael Babcock > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS > > We are doing the same thing as Dave as well. I was under the impression > that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case. Linux > only. DBB Tollkit runs under USS though. > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < > jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > > > Dave, > > > > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would > > be happy to talk with you. > > > > Jerry Edgington > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of Jousma, David > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS > > > > All, > > > > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application > > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, > > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the > > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security > > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, > > and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this > > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) > > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline > > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the > > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be > > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management > > process", etc. > > > > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, > > and would interested in sharing some information off-list? > > > > Thanks, Dave > > > > > > > > __ > > ___ > > Dave Jousma > > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91 > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/id:image003.png@01D4F91?entry=gmai > l=g> > 5.C9E34050] > > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE > > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+East+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gm > > ai > > l=g> > > | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 > > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > > > > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential > > and may be privileged. > > It is intended only for the addressee(s) named a
Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
We have DBB server running on RHEL x86 server. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Babcock Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be built and run during testing. The server component, I was told, doesn’t run under USS. Am I being misinformed? On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and > Java/Groovy Classes. The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't > have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar > files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP > connectivity to the DBB server. > > I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help > anyone or not, but here is the link. I also have a lot more > information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact > me offline. > https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=b9e07acb-e5bc8ec4-b9e05053-0cc47a33 > 347c-e156f91e638ea3ee=https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops > -tools-zos > > Thanks, > Jerry Edgington > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Michael Babcock > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS > > We are doing the same thing as Dave as well. I was under the impression > that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case. Linux > only. DBB Tollkit runs under USS though. > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < > jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > > > Dave, > > > > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would > > be happy to talk with you. > > > > Jerry Edgington > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of Jousma, David > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS > > > > All, > > > > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application > > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, > > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the > > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security > > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, > > and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this > > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) > > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline > > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the > > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be > > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management > > process", etc. > > > > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, > > and would interested in sharing some information off-list? > > > > Thanks, Dave > > > > > > > > __ > > ___ > > Dave Jousma > > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91 > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=ba08e717-e6541318-ba08cd8f-0cc47a3 > 3347c-2a446e17f7f37f6e=https://www.google.com/maps/search/id:image00 > 3.png@01D4F91?entry=gmail=g> > 5.C9E34050] > > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE > > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=a22e5d4f-fe72a940-a22e77d7-0cc47 > > a33347c-e77a5e0a80a71739=https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+E > > ast+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gmai > > l=g> > > | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 > > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > > > > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential > > and may be privileged. > > It is intended only for the addressee(s) named
Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
You are probably correct. I haven't installed DBB server component in years, but now that you said that, I do remember some issues with trying to run DBB server under USS or even Linux on Z. There are some Java component missing. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Babcock Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be built and run during testing. The server component, I was told, doesn’t run under USS. Am I being misinformed? On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and > Java/Groovy Classes. The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't > have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar > files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP > connectivity to the DBB server. > > I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help > anyone or not, but here is the link. I also have a lot more > information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact > me offline. > https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos > > Thanks, > Jerry Edgington > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Michael Babcock > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS > > We are doing the same thing as Dave as well. I was under the impression > that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case. Linux > only. DBB Tollkit runs under USS though. > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < > jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > > > Dave, > > > > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would > > be happy to talk with you. > > > > Jerry Edgington > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of Jousma, David > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS > > > > All, > > > > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application > > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, > > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the > > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security > > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, > > and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this > > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) > > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline > > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the > > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be > > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management > > process", etc. > > > > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, > > and would interested in sharing some information off-list? > > > > Thanks, Dave > > > > > > > > __ > > ___ > > Dave Jousma > > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91 > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/id:image003.png@01D4F91?entry=gmai > l=g> > 5.C9E34050] > > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE > > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+East+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gm > > ai > > l=g> > > | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 > > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > > > > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential > > and may be privileged. > > It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive > > this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in > > any > manner. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > > distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. > > Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that > > the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from > > your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is > > appreciate
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As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be built and run during testing. The server component, I was told, doesn’t run under USS. Am I being misinformed? On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and > Java/Groovy Classes. The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't have > to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar files, need > to be load and available in USS, along with IP connectivity to the DBB > server. > > I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help anyone > or not, but here is the link. I also have a lot more information about > DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact me offline. > https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos > > Thanks, > Jerry Edgington > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Michael Babcock > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS > > We are doing the same thing as Dave as well. I was under the impression > that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case. Linux > only. DBB Tollkit runs under USS though. > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < > jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > > > Dave, > > > > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would > > be happy to talk with you. > > > > Jerry Edgington > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of Jousma, David > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS > > > > All, > > > > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application > > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, > > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the > > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements > > for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it > > really needs access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my > > impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the > > Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues > > GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that > > work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or > > could be the userid of the "change management process", etc. > > > > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and > > would interested in sharing some information off-list? > > > > Thanks, Dave > > > > > > __ > > ___ > > Dave Jousma > > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91 > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/id:image003.png@01D4F91?entry=gmail=g> > 5.C9E34050] > > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE > > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+East+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gmai > > l=g> > > | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 > > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > > > > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and > > may be privileged. > > It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive > > this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any > manner. > > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > > distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. > > Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that > > the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your > > computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >
Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and Java/Groovy Classes. The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP connectivity to the DBB server. I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help anyone or not, but here is the link. I also have a lot more information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact me offline. https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos Thanks, Jerry Edgington -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Michael Babcock Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS We are doing the same thing as Dave as well. I was under the impression that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case. Linux only. DBB Tollkit runs under USS though. On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > Dave, > > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would > be happy to talk with you. > > Jerry Edgington > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Jousma, David > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS > > All, > > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements > for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it > really needs access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my > impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the > Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues > GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that > work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or > could be the userid of the "change management process", etc. > > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and > would interested in sharing some information off-list? > > Thanks, Dave > > > __ > ___ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > [cid:image003.png@01D4F915.C9E34050] > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+East+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gmai > l=g> > | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and > may be privileged. > It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive > this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any > manner. > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. > Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that > the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your > computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Michael Babcock OneMain Financial z/OS Systems Programmer, Lead -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
We are doing the same thing as Dave as well. I was under the impression that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case. Linux only. DBB Tollkit runs under USS though. On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote: > Dave, > > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would be > happy to talk with you. > > Jerry Edgington > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Jousma, David > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS > > All, > > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for > running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs > access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the > Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the > MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, > and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which > could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change > management process", etc. > > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and > would interested in sharing some information off-list? > > Thanks, Dave > > > _ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > [cid:image003.png@01D4F915.C9E34050] > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+East+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gmail=g> > | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may > be privileged. > It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this > e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. > Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the > message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer > system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Michael Babcock OneMain Financial z/OS Systems Programmer, Lead -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Dave, I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would be happy to talk with you. Jerry Edgington -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS All, We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management process", etc. I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would interested in sharing some information off-list? Thanks, Dave _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering [cid:image003.png@01D4F915.C9E34050] Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Chris, There is also an open source called zJenkins on Github, which uses IBM's DBB along with the Jenkins' z/OS slave and Git, to build applications on z/OS. I am working on getting zJenkins under the Open Mainframe Project with the new name of Polycephaly. Jerry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chris Parker Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS Hi Dave, I wasn't aware that a Jenkins slave was able to run natively under USS. At the last place I worked, Jenkins was being used off mainframe to interface with z/OSMF and Zowe to execute and manage the tests. Chris -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS All, We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management process", etc. I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would interested in sharing some information off-list? Thanks, Dave _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering [cid:image003.png@01D4F915.C9E34050] Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --- NOTICE: This email and all attachments are confidential, may be proprietary, and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. They are intended solely for the individual or entity to whom the email is addressed. However, mistakes sometimes happen in addressing emails. If you believe that you are not an intended recipient, please stop reading immediately. Do not copy, forward, or rely on the contents in any way. Notify the sender and/or Imperva, Inc. by telephone at +1 (650) 832-6006 and then delete or destroy any copy of this email and its attachments. The sender reserves and asserts all rights to confidentiality, as well as any privileges that may apply. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken by an unintended recipient in reliance on this message is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote: > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ? -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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from a purely TSS standpoint, Setup omvs sectrace for TSS. It will provide a lot of output. Combine with SECTRACE for mvs side of things. Or the regular omvs security report and audit everything. Also a lot of output but should show most things. The other thing would be to rachet up debugging / logging on the Jenkins client in omvs. Rob On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 18:28 Chris Parker wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I wasn't aware that a Jenkins slave was able to run natively under USS. > At the last place I worked, Jenkins was being used off mainframe to > interface with z/OSMF and Zowe to execute and manage the tests. > > Chris > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Jousma, David > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS > > All, > > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for > running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs > access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the > Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the > MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, > and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which > could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change > management process", etc. > > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and > would interested in sharing some information off-list? > > Thanks, Dave > > > _ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > [cid:image003.png@01D4F915.C9E34050] > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > Rapids, MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may > be privileged. > It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this > e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. > If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. > Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the > message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer > system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. > > > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > --- > NOTICE: > This email and all attachments are confidential, may be proprietary, and > may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. They are intended > solely for the individual or entity to whom the email is addressed. > However, mistakes sometimes happen in addressing emails. If you believe > that you are not an intended recipient, please stop reading immediately. Do > not copy, forward, or rely on the contents in any way. Notify the sender > and/or Imperva, Inc. by telephone at +1 (650) 832-6006 and then delete or > destroy any copy of this email and its attachments. The sender reserves and > asserts all rights to confidentiality, as well as any privileges that may > apply. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to > be taken by an unintended recipient in reliance on this message is > prohibited and may be unlawful. > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Hi Dave, I wasn't aware that a Jenkins slave was able to run natively under USS. At the last place I worked, Jenkins was being used off mainframe to interface with z/OSMF and Zowe to execute and manage the tests. Chris -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS All, We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management process", etc. I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would interested in sharing some information off-list? Thanks, Dave _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering [cid:image003.png@01D4F915.C9E34050] Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --- NOTICE: This email and all attachments are confidential, may be proprietary, and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. They are intended solely for the individual or entity to whom the email is addressed. However, mistakes sometimes happen in addressing emails. If you believe that you are not an intended recipient, please stop reading immediately. Do not copy, forward, or rely on the contents in any way. Notify the sender and/or Imperva, Inc. by telephone at +1 (650) 832-6006 and then delete or destroy any copy of this email and its attachments. The sender reserves and asserts all rights to confidentiality, as well as any privileges that may apply. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken by an unintended recipient in reliance on this message is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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5. ISPF/PDF EDIT has facilities not present on the PC editor you're using. FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF; I'll give it up when I have a clone of the current ISPF/PDF EDIT or they pry it out of my cold dead fingers. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS There is now a tool that will let your mainframe developers who are currently very productive using ISPF to interface to git. Check out https://secure-web.cisco.com/1zS27ov-kujgAgebP2gOfK0vy8zezUKk9q2ObqbEqRnHp_ihMxxP7WvktQYWT5KxsCBbJZkvKJvx7xaO51yQebIXJqTjdSrOLLbbytPTxbOnT6DPTS3kEqgL8eHw0lwl1yY-BUb_JBeLSEstTXf9WM_S2_BSKvHERZcV1TpmscIQ9H_a_vik6EAkvX1j3GDy5QSQJQBbM6xeGd-YTPvAoiAOVQpkJSnhJewXor5IJWw9NDEjBiO3lYVyHYlrke7088NM-S87AqK7cGDIpi29rmwePQMe5JEkIGI6rz1ULvADYch_Zm3adTXTGcvfw_CK3dtyNmeQjDG9lA3JDoLN-V-f2cN1Q3Re4RaYYG3qj2DvrXQHzK5z0ZxavfN4qBWbzEPswmVV3x1Z2lJzNTf6VfILkXQARd2hkYL0MJxj7xzG0VqAwBY4gwHUn_7YCZ2GW/https%3A%2F%2Fzigi.rocks for more info. The V1R1 is about to be released into the wild - a release candidate is current available for the brave. This update addresses many of the issues in the original v1r0 release. Why use ISPF to interface to git: 1. Many developers are very comfortable and thus very productive using ISPF tools. 2. There have been many extensions to ISPF edit, in house developed, cbttape, and vendor, that extend ISPF Edit significantly to improve productivity. 3. The younger developers, who may already know about git, will find it familiar while remaining on the mainframe 4. The more seasoned developers will not have to spend time learning a new development interface and can continue to produce Zigi - the Z ISPF Git Interface Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://secure-web.cisco.com/15wUQePKuwls7GQ-8EAuz2sufjeKxkJM5_9qVksRQVJzks4cFKiO3S9xFLlnSUBSsOpcHfvasteRwuBGWRGP8D2RAYNvUKCTNPkiQQRPYkky5E5RKOcFD-Mn__AzpukprBvvCT0Rgrndjx065us2roBiTYblERlQKuMsVyY9d9PXQ9SlBF1B4lo3Z2pKb-ymeCsnO6Fpq_W5muVZxEUgDDnLE5_tjLDqMwJS2ctONcwUaarctTstzfP5pLruyKodm_8cS-HOXpCnYjSwCmxt1VAW1FmWp510siPkq-X11yRWELrRDXz3dLjX5IpMu13VM0sqFgUW1-lOtpKxmaRggTriY6YHXrXFW9urWUMiRs78zT6wZdlgK5D2Bjif3VU5mhDW8EKlVjBeW__D6aqD_6DvpgFVUBN6SdL0z6f2DIR0XP4LCicGPwYSUMRhBp49R/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS All, We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management process", etc. I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would interested in sharing some information off-list? Thanks, Dave _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering [cid:image003.png@01D4F915.C9E34050] Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu <mailto:lists...@listserv.ua.edu> with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction
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Thanks Lionel. I'll take a peek at it, but our current direction is to piggyback on similar pipeline functionality our installation is already using for all the other platforms as much as possible. Your solution appears to be a very nice implementation, from what I have read, but doesn't address the needed processes to promote code, packages, etc from development stage through to Production. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** There is now a tool that will let your mainframe developers who are currently very productive using ISPF to interface to git. Check out https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=23e2235b-7fbed754-23e209c3-0cc47a33347c-0ba6f4518c1b7c75=https://zigi.rocks/ for more info. The V1R1 is about to be released into the wild - a release candidate is current available for the brave. This update addresses many of the issues in the original v1r0 release. Why use ISPF to interface to git: 1. Many developers are very comfortable and thus very productive using ISPF tools. 2. There have been many extensions to ISPF edit, in house developed, cbttape, and vendor, that extend ISPF Edit significantly to improve productivity. 3. The younger developers, who may already know about git, will find it familiar while remaining on the mainframe 4. The more seasoned developers will not have to spend time learning a new development interface and can continue to produce Zigi - the Z ISPF Git Interface Lionel B. Dyck < Website: https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=98b27cf5-c4ee88fa-98b2566d-0cc47a33347c-e71e673d8eea16a2=http://www.lbdsoftware.com/ "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS All, We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management process", etc. I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would interested in sharing some information off-list? Thanks, Dave _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering [cid:image003.png@01D4F915.C9E34050] Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu <mailto:lists...@listserv.ua.edu> with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and
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There is now a tool that will let your mainframe developers who are currently very productive using ISPF to interface to git. Check out https://zigi.rocks for more info. The V1R1 is about to be released into the wild - a release candidate is current available for the brave. This update addresses many of the issues in the original v1r0 release. Why use ISPF to interface to git: 1. Many developers are very comfortable and thus very productive using ISPF tools. 2. There have been many extensions to ISPF edit, in house developed, cbttape, and vendor, that extend ISPF Edit significantly to improve productivity. 3. The younger developers, who may already know about git, will find it familiar while remaining on the mainframe 4. The more seasoned developers will not have to spend time learning a new development interface and can continue to produce Zigi - the Z ISPF Git Interface Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS All, We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management process", etc. I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would interested in sharing some information off-list? Thanks, Dave _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering [cid:image003.png@01D4F915.C9E34050] Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu <mailto:lists...@listserv.ua.edu> with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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All, We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc. Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs access to. I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management process", etc. I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would interested in sharing some information off-list? Thanks, Dave _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering [cid:image003.png@01D4F915.C9E34050] Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN