[SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-25 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, at 20:00, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF 
> dialogs that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It 
> has regexen, but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major 
> PC languages. I would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers 
> would revive it, but as I understand it there are legal issues that 
> make it unlikely.

Ah, Tritus...I should have remembered that.

If one Googles for it there's several hits but only on iffy sites that look as 
if 
they want people to pay to download something, eg
https://pserritirou.tk/family/tritus-spf.php


I also stumbled across 

  "Capable Worthy Text Editor"
http://cwtexteditor.sourceforge.net/index.html

which I don't think I've heard of before - open source - apparently works 
under both Windows & Linux/Unix etc via X⋅Window (X11).  It looks like it
has an editor and a files-list/dir / ispf 3.4 utility, but I saw no sign of any
REXX or dialog support.


There's also   uni-SPF etc as described at: http://www.wrkgrp.com/index.html
but I see the website page-footer copyright date is 2013.I downloaded some
manuals but their production dates are 2002.  Goodness knows if the products
still exist.

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
I got this sometime in the late eighties or early nineties.  No, didn't get
an upgrade.

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Didn't you get the free upgrade?

Have you had problems running the 32 bit windoze version of TSPF on a 32 bit 
windoze? I recall having successfully done so once on either 7 or vista (I 
don't recall which).


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I still have the original Tritus ISPF with the 5.25 and 3.5 diskettes.
I have to run it under DOS Box.

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It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone 
from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run 
macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports.

If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as 
either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including 
clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers".

for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what 
DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested.


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 work for you?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs 
> that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, 
> but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I 
> would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
> understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.
>
> If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be 
> fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for 
> the utility functions.
>
>
> --
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> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
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>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF
>
> Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Didn't you get the free upgrade?

Have you had problems running the 32 bit windoze version of TSPF on a 32 bit 
windoze? I recall having successfully done so once on either 7 or vista (I 
don't recall which).


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PINION, RICHARD W. 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:57 PM
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I still have the original Tritus ISPF with the 5.25 and 3.5 diskettes.
I have to run it under DOS Box.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM
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It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone 
from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run 
macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports.

If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as 
either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including 
clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers".

for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what 
DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested.


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Mike Schwab 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM
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How well does 
http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Yj7f9keIh_ZHN-4COJ4EKV7tBbfIAjMpTNBVys_oKhPxLVL0raBDlc7_cRph9f_2IGjAw6E4FPQtK0bkOEq80eEwHYpA1DeGQZTqjixs9XMO2aHcd2Ebw7B3Uk14PDKjRf_SfRvOCBAtDSfnyJah2qCBygV5j5-r3dFR8p2vx3ov_zFM_7EWfdK7_M_e_8FvEfGgihEXptOBil4eOv35X6dFbOppysJ5wD5Zo2m4DCFJ29yhyBKP1PegJY_8aBQBzzbkNJVMQlyKJRBU5AGTx4vBFYbOSGzyP1y7WIBqEmFN9PJAJe4nyHHa789vm8v36ChQrC58z6Oqy_dj3JlCVoKtRHbGhs10BjtX0sLRLVDY2T7Ycuhmkaepf2ySk4Pz/http%3A%2F%2Fspflite.com%2F
 work for you?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs 
> that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, 
> but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I 
> would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
> understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.
>
> If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be 
> fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for 
> the utility functions.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> behalf of Jeremy Nicoll 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF
>
> Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?
>
> --
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
I still have the original Tritus ISPF with the 5.25 and 3.5 diskettes.
I have to run it under DOS Box.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

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It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone 
from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run 
macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports.

If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as 
either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including 
clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers".

for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what 
DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested.


--
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Mike Schwab 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

How well does 
http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Yj7f9keIh_ZHN-4COJ4EKV7tBbfIAjMpTNBVys_oKhPxLVL0raBDlc7_cRph9f_2IGjAw6E4FPQtK0bkOEq80eEwHYpA1DeGQZTqjixs9XMO2aHcd2Ebw7B3Uk14PDKjRf_SfRvOCBAtDSfnyJah2qCBygV5j5-r3dFR8p2vx3ov_zFM_7EWfdK7_M_e_8FvEfGgihEXptOBil4eOv35X6dFbOppysJ5wD5Zo2m4DCFJ29yhyBKP1PegJY_8aBQBzzbkNJVMQlyKJRBU5AGTx4vBFYbOSGzyP1y7WIBqEmFN9PJAJe4nyHHa789vm8v36ChQrC58z6Oqy_dj3JlCVoKtRHbGhs10BjtX0sLRLVDY2T7Ycuhmkaepf2ySk4Pz/http%3A%2F%2Fspflite.com%2F
 work for you?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs 
> that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, 
> but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I 
> would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
> understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.
>
> If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be 
> fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for 
> the utility functions.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on 
> behalf of Jeremy Nicoll 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF
>
> Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?
>
> --
> Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
>
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone 
from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run 
macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports.

If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as 
either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including 
clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers".

for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what 
DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Mike Schwab 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

How well does 
http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Yj7f9keIh_ZHN-4COJ4EKV7tBbfIAjMpTNBVys_oKhPxLVL0raBDlc7_cRph9f_2IGjAw6E4FPQtK0bkOEq80eEwHYpA1DeGQZTqjixs9XMO2aHcd2Ebw7B3Uk14PDKjRf_SfRvOCBAtDSfnyJah2qCBygV5j5-r3dFR8p2vx3ov_zFM_7EWfdK7_M_e_8FvEfGgihEXptOBil4eOv35X6dFbOppysJ5wD5Zo2m4DCFJ29yhyBKP1PegJY_8aBQBzzbkNJVMQlyKJRBU5AGTx4vBFYbOSGzyP1y7WIBqEmFN9PJAJe4nyHHa789vm8v36ChQrC58z6Oqy_dj3JlCVoKtRHbGhs10BjtX0sLRLVDY2T7Ycuhmkaepf2ySk4Pz/http%3A%2F%2Fspflite.com%2F
 work for you?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs 
> that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, 
> but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I 
> would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
> understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.
>
> If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be 
> fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for 
> the utility functions.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
> Jeremy Nicoll 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF
>
> Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?
>
> --
> Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
>
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Mike Schwab
How well does http://spflite.com/ work for you?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs 
> that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, 
> but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I 
> would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
> understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.
>
> If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be 
> fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for 
> the utility functions.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
> Jeremy Nicoll 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF
>
> Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?
>
> --
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs that 
do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, but the 
syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I would 
happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.

If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be fully 
compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for the 
utility functions.


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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:

> FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF

Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Roger Lowe
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:55:31 +, Jousma, David  wrote:

>What is that feature code?
>
>>That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 
>>up and operational.
>>
>Not only will you need zOS 2.4 but also a z14 and hardware F/C 0104 (which is 
>chargeable).
>
F/C 0104 is the Container Hosting Foundation - 
https://www.ibm.com/support/z-content-solutions/container-extensions/

Roger

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Jousma, David
What is that feature code?

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On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:58:28 +, Jousma, David  wrote:

>That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 
>up and operational.
>
Not only will you need zOS 2.4 but also a z14 and hardware F/C 0104 (which is 
chargeable).

Roger

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Roger Lowe
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:58:28 +, Jousma, David  wrote:

>That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 
>up and operational.
>
Not only will you need zOS 2.4 but also a z14 and hardware F/C 0104 (which is 
chargeable).

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Jousma, David
That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 up 
and operational.

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If it needs linux and if you want to keep it under z/OS why not a container.


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Edgington, Jerry
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:54 AM
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Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

You are probably correct.  I haven't installed DBB server component in years, 
but now that you said that, I do remember some issues with trying to run DBB 
server under USS or even Linux on Z.  There are some Java component missing.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Babcock
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which 
runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be 
built and run during testing.  The server component, I was told,
doesn’t run under USS.   Am I being misinformed?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and 
> Java/Groovy Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't 
> have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar 
> files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP 
> connectivity to the DBB server.
>
> I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help 
> anyone or not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more 
> information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact 
> me offline.
> https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=ee387839-b2648c36-ee3852a1-0cc47a33
> 347c-23124c3b87ab82de=https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops
> -tools-zos
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
> that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
> only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
> jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would 
> > be happy to talk with you.
> >
> > Jerry Edgington
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> > Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application 
> > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security 
> > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, 
> > and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
> > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) 
> > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline 
> > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the 
> > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be 
> > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management 
> > process", etc.
> >
> > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, 
> > and would interested in sharing some information off-list?
> >
> > Thanks, Dave
> 

Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Lionel B Dyck
If it needs linux and if you want to keep it under z/OS why not a container.


Lionel B. Dyck <
Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com

"Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what you 
are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Edgington, Jerry
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

You are probably correct.  I haven't installed DBB server component in years, 
but now that you said that, I do remember some issues with trying to run DBB 
server under USS or even Linux on Z.  There are some Java component missing.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Babcock
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which 
runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be 
built and run during testing.  The server component, I was told,
doesn’t run under USS.   Am I being misinformed?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and 
> Java/Groovy Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't 
> have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar 
> files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP 
> connectivity to the DBB server.
>
> I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help 
> anyone or not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more 
> information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact 
> me offline.
> https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
> that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
> only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
> jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would 
> > be happy to talk with you.
> >
> > Jerry Edgington
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> > Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application 
> > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security 
> > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, 
> > and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
> > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) 
> > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline 
> > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the 
> > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be 
> > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management 
> > process", etc.
> >
> > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, 
> > and would interested in sharing some information off-list?
> >
> > Thanks, Dave
> >
> >
> > 
> > __
> > ___
> > Dave Jousma
> > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering
> > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/id:image003.png@01D4F91?entry=gmai
> l=g>
> 5.C9E34050]
> >
> > Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE 
> > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+East+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gm
> > ai
> > l=g>
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> > 616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717
> >
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Jousma, David
We have DBB server running on RHEL x86 server.

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Dave Jousma
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Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE  |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, MI 
49546
616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Babcock
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which 
runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be 
built and run during testing.  The server component, I was told,
doesn’t run under USS.   Am I being misinformed?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and 
> Java/Groovy Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't 
> have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar 
> files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP 
> connectivity to the DBB server.
>
> I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help 
> anyone or not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more 
> information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact 
> me offline.
> https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=b9e07acb-e5bc8ec4-b9e05053-0cc47a33
> 347c-e156f91e638ea3ee=https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops
> -tools-zos
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
> that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
> only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
> jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would 
> > be happy to talk with you.
> >
> > Jerry Edgington
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> > Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application 
> > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security 
> > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, 
> > and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
> > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) 
> > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline 
> > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the 
> > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be 
> > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management 
> > process", etc.
> >
> > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, 
> > and would interested in sharing some information off-list?
> >
> > Thanks, Dave
> >
> >
> > 
> > __
> > ___
> > Dave Jousma
> > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering
> > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91
> <https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=ba08e717-e6541318-ba08cd8f-0cc47a3
> 3347c-2a446e17f7f37f6e=https://www.google.com/maps/search/id:image00
> 3.png@01D4F91?entry=gmail=g>
> 5.C9E34050]
> >
> > Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE 
> > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=a22e5d4f-fe72a940-a22e77d7-0cc47
> > a33347c-e77a5e0a80a71739=https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+E
> > ast+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gmai
> > l=g>
> > |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, MI 49546
> > 616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Edgington, Jerry
You are probably correct.  I haven't installed DBB server component in years, 
but now that you said that, I do remember some issues with trying to run DBB 
server under USS or even Linux on Z.  There are some Java component missing.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Babcock
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which 
runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be 
built and run during testing.  The server component, I was told,
doesn’t run under USS.   Am I being misinformed?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and 
> Java/Groovy Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't 
> have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar 
> files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP 
> connectivity to the DBB server.
>
> I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help 
> anyone or not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more 
> information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact 
> me offline.
> https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
> that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
> only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
> jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would 
> > be happy to talk with you.
> >
> > Jerry Edgington
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> > Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application 
> > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security 
> > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, 
> > and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
> > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) 
> > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline 
> > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the 
> > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be 
> > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management 
> > process", etc.
> >
> > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, 
> > and would interested in sharing some information off-list?
> >
> > Thanks, Dave
> >
> >
> > 
> > __
> > ___
> > Dave Jousma
> > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering
> > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/id:image003.png@01D4F91?entry=gmai
> l=g>
> 5.C9E34050]
> >
> > Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE 
> > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+East+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gm
> > ai
> > l=g>
> > |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, MI 49546
> > 616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717
> >
> >
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Michael Babcock
As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit
which runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that
can be built and run during testing.  The server component, I was told,
doesn’t run under USS.   Am I being misinformed?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry <
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and
> Java/Groovy Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't have
> to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar files, need
> to be load and available in USS, along with IP connectivity to the DBB
> server.
>
> I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help anyone
> or not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more information about
> DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact me offline.
> https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
> that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
> only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry <
> jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would
> > be happy to talk with you.
> >
> > Jerry Edgington
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> > Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application
> > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements
> > for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it
> > really needs access to.  I'm still learning this territory, but my
> > impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the
> > Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues
> > GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that
> > work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or
> > could be the userid of the "change management process", etc.
> >
> > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and
> > would interested in sharing some information off-list?
> >
> > Thanks, Dave
> >
> >
> > __
> > ___
> > Dave Jousma
> > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering
> > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/id:image003.png@01D4F91?entry=gmail=g>
> 5.C9E34050]
> >
> > Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE
> > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+East+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gmai
> > l=g>
> > |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, MI 49546
> > 616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717
> >
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Edgington, Jerry
There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and Java/Groovy 
Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't have to. The DBB Jar 
files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar files, need to be load and 
available in USS, along with IP connectivity to the DBB server.

I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help anyone or 
not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more information about DBB, 
Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact me offline. 
https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos

Thanks,
Jerry Edgington


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Babcock
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would 
> be happy to talk with you.
>
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Jousma, David
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> All,
>
> We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application 
> development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements 
> for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it 
> really needs access to.  I'm still learning this territory, but my 
> impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the 
> Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues 
> GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that 
> work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or 
> could be the userid of the "change management process", etc.
>
> I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and 
> would interested in sharing some information off-list?
>
> Thanks, Dave
>
>
> __
> ___
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Michael Babcock
We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry <
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would be
> happy to talk with you.
>
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Jousma, David
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> All,
>
> We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application
> development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for
> running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs
> access to.  I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the
> Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the
> MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands,
> and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which
> could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change
> management process", etc.
>
> I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and
> would interested in sharing some information off-list?
>
> Thanks, Dave
>
>
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Dave,

I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would be happy 
to talk with you.

Jerry Edgington


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All,

We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to 
using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code 
Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time 
finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe 
Unix user, and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates 
with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues 
GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on 
behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the 
userid of the "change management process", etc.

I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would 
interested in sharing some information off-list?

Thanks, Dave

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Chris,

There is also an open source called zJenkins on Github, which uses IBM's DBB 
along with the Jenkins' z/OS slave and Git, to build applications on z/OS.  I 
am working on getting zJenkins under the Open Mainframe Project with the new 
name of Polycephaly. 

Jerry 

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Hi Dave,

I wasn't aware that a Jenkins slave was able to run natively under USS.  At the 
last place I worked, Jenkins was being used off mainframe to interface with 
z/OSMF and Zowe to execute and manage the tests.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Jousma, David
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS

All,

We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to 
using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code 
Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time 
finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe 
Unix user, and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates 
with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues 
GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on 
behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the 
userid of the "change management process", etc.

I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would 
interested in sharing some information off-list?

Thanks, Dave

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-21 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:

> FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF

Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-20 Thread Rob Schramm
from a purely TSS standpoint, Setup omvs sectrace for TSS.  It will provide
a lot of output.  Combine with SECTRACE for mvs side of things.

Or the regular omvs security report and audit everything.  Also a lot of
output but should show most things.

The other thing would be to rachet up debugging / logging on the Jenkins
client in omvs.

Rob

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 18:28 Chris Parker  wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> I wasn't aware that a Jenkins slave was able to run natively under USS.
> At the last place I worked, Jenkins was being used off mainframe to
> interface with z/OSMF and Zowe to execute and manage the tests.
>
> Chris
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> Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> All,
>
> We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application
> development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for
> running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs
> access to.  I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the
> Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the
> MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands,
> and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which
> could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change
> management process", etc.
>
> I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and
> would interested in sharing some information off-list?
>
> Thanks, Dave
>
>
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-20 Thread Chris Parker
Hi Dave,

I wasn't aware that a Jenkins slave was able to run natively under USS.  At the 
last place I worked, Jenkins was being used off mainframe to interface with 
z/OSMF and Zowe to execute and manage the tests.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS

All,

We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to 
using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code 
Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time 
finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe 
Unix user, and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates 
with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues 
GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on 
behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the 
userid of the "change management process", etc.

I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would 
interested in sharing some information off-list?

Thanks, Dave

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
 5. ISPF/PDF EDIT has facilities not present on the PC editor you're
using.

FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF; I'll give it up when I have a clone of 
the current ISPF/PDF EDIT or they pry it out of my cold dead fingers.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:00 PM
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There is now a tool that will let your mainframe developers who are
currently very productive using ISPF to interface to git.  Check out
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 for more info.

The V1R1 is about to be released into the wild - a release candidate is
current available for the brave. This update addresses many of the issues in
the original v1r0 release.

Why use ISPF to interface to git:

1.  Many developers are very comfortable and thus very productive using
ISPF tools.
2.  There have been many extensions to ISPF edit, in house developed,
cbttape, and vendor, that extend ISPF Edit significantly to improve
productivity.
3.  The younger developers, who may already know about git, will find it
familiar while remaining on the mainframe
4.  The more seasoned developers will  not have to spend time learning a
new development interface and can continue to produce

Zigi - the Z ISPF Git Interface


Lionel B. Dyck <
Website: 
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
Jousma, David
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS

All,

We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development
to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban
Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a
hard time finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave
as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs access to.  I'm still
learning this territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off
platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline
control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention
that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be an individual
developer, or could be the userid of the "change management process", etc.

I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would
interested in sharing some information off-list?

Thanks, Dave


_
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-20 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks Lionel.   I'll take a peek at it, but our current direction is to 
piggyback on similar pipeline functionality our installation is already using 
for all the other platforms as much as possible.   Your solution appears to be 
a very nice implementation, from what I have read, but doesn't address the 
needed processes to promote code, packages, etc from development stage through 
to Production.

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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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There is now a tool that will let your mainframe developers who are currently 
very productive using ISPF to interface to git.  Check out 
https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=23e2235b-7fbed754-23e209c3-0cc47a33347c-0ba6f4518c1b7c75=https://zigi.rocks/
 for more info.

The V1R1 is about to be released into the wild - a release candidate is current 
available for the brave. This update addresses many of the issues in the 
original v1r0 release.

Why use ISPF to interface to git:

1.  Many developers are very comfortable and thus very productive using
ISPF tools. 
2.  There have been many extensions to ISPF edit, in house developed,
cbttape, and vendor, that extend ISPF Edit significantly to improve 
productivity.
3.  The younger developers, who may already know about git, will find it
familiar while remaining on the mainframe
4.  The more seasoned developers will  not have to spend time learning a
new development interface and can continue to produce

Zigi - the Z ISPF Git Interface


Lionel B. Dyck <
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS

All,

We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to 
using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban
Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a
hard time finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as 
mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning 
this territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off
platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline 
control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention 
that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be an individual 
developer, or could be the userid of the "change management process", etc.

I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would 
interested in sharing some information off-list?

Thanks, Dave


_
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-20 Thread Lionel B Dyck
There is now a tool that will let your mainframe developers who are
currently very productive using ISPF to interface to git.  Check out
https://zigi.rocks for more info.

The V1R1 is about to be released into the wild - a release candidate is
current available for the brave. This update addresses many of the issues in
the original v1r0 release.

Why use ISPF to interface to git:

1.  Many developers are very comfortable and thus very productive using
ISPF tools. 
2.  There have been many extensions to ISPF edit, in house developed,
cbttape, and vendor, that extend ISPF Edit significantly to improve
productivity.
3.  The younger developers, who may already know about git, will find it
familiar while remaining on the mainframe
4.  The more seasoned developers will  not have to spend time learning a
new development interface and can continue to produce

Zigi - the Z ISPF Git Interface


Lionel B. Dyck <
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Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS

All,

We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development
to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban
Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a
hard time finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave
as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs access to.  I'm still
learning this territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off
platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline
control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention
that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be an individual
developer, or could be the userid of the "change management process", etc.

I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would
interested in sharing some information off-list?

Thanks, Dave


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Mainframe DEVOPS

2019-11-20 Thread Jousma, David
All,

We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to 
using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code 
Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time 
finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe 
Unix user, and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates 
with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues 
GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on 
behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the 
userid of the "change management process", etc.

I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would 
interested in sharing some information off-list?

Thanks, Dave

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AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering
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