Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 553d2449.4080...@gmail.com, on 04/26/2015 at 06:45 PM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com said: That would be ANSI Cobol 545 Lvl2 as there does not appear to to be Cobol F or E and all compilers actually came from MVT. COBOL E was still in OS/360 R21.8, but COBOL F was gone by 21.7; I don't have

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 553cdc80.1040...@gmail.com, on 04/26/2015 at 01:39 PM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com said: Please advise what else is available and how to do so. COBOL (E) and COBOL (F). and how to do so. Same as COBOL (U); copy it from OS/360. But if you don't like U, you'll like the older ones even

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-26 Thread Vince Coen
Don't remember the E version but do seem to recall the F one and yes you are right :) On 26/04/15 15:11, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 553cdc80.1040...@gmail.com, on 04/26/2015 at 01:39 PM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com said: Please advise what else is available and how to do so.

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-26 Thread Vince Coen
Please advise what else is available and how to do so. You can reach via vbcoen at gmail . com if needed. On 26/04/15 03:41, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 55396928.8010...@gmail.com, on 04/23/2015 at 10:50 PM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com said: Pity the only Cobol compiler is

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-26 Thread Mike Schwab
The last one would be included in Hercules Turnkey 3 or 4-. On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com wrote: Please advise what else is available and how to do so. You can reach via vbcoen at gmail . com if needed. On 26/04/15 03:41, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-26 Thread Vince Coen
That would be ANSI Cobol 545 Lvl2 as there does not appear to to be Cobol F or E and all compilers actually came from MVT. In any event the Ansi compiler does not work if using XREF so I have been forced to rebuild a cobxref program just for the ANSI Cobol standards that covers the problem.

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-25 Thread David Mingee
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Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-25 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-04-23 o 23:50, Vince Coen pisze: Yep, somewhat out of reach for home use for a retired ex main-framer. Oh, well worse case scenario is just staying with MVS under Hercules, at least it is free and works well under Linux. Pity the only Cobol compiler is ANSI Cobol and I still

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 55396928.8010...@gmail.com, on 04/23/2015 at 10:50 PM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com said: Pity the only Cobol compiler is ANSI Cobol It isn't. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-24 Thread Mike Schwab
http://gccmvs.sourceforge.net/ On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: GCC370 and GCC (380) are available to compile it. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly, although I run it on a AMD FX8350 along with a BBS, web and

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-24 Thread Mike Schwab
GCC handles the differences between Open Systems and CKD disk. Just like z/Linux looks like open system files. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Vince Coen vbc...@gmail.com wrote: Did think of that but .. as GNU Cobol is written for Linux I think migrating over to the mainframe will take a lot

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-24 Thread Vince Coen
Mike; There must be more to it in migrating a program (Cobol compiler ) written in C that uses many Linux components (Bison springs to mind but there is a lot more) that accesses files both in the current directory and in specific one's (e.g., /usr/local/lib/ and others). I do not think

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vince Coen Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: New zPDT redbook Is there an easy way of getting zPDT? and more importantly is it cheap? On 23/04/15 17:37, John McKown wrote: Which may be of interest to those fortunate

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Vince Coen
Is there an easy way of getting zPDT? and more importantly is it cheap? On 23/04/15 17:37, John McKown wrote: Which may be of interest to those fortunate enough to have a zPDT system http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248205.html?Open Aside: I rather like that I can now get many

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread michelbutz
Would know for those of us who are fortunate When we get the next release of z/OS I think most get it in sept It takes a while to trickle down to us Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:37 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Which may be of interest to those

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Vince Coen
Yep, somewhat out of reach for home use for a retired ex main-framer. Oh, well worse case scenario is just staying with MVS under Hercules, at least it is free and works well under Linux. Pity the only Cobol compiler is ANSI Cobol and I still remember that being a god in the 70's ) It

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Joel Ewing
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vince Coen Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: New zPDT redbook Is there an easy way of getting zPDT? and more importantly is it cheap? On 23

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Thomas Conley
On 4/23/2015 12:37 PM, John McKown wrote: Which may be of interest to those fortunate enough to have a zPDT system http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248205.html?Open Aside: I rather like that I can now get many Redbooks via Google Play.

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Vince Coen
Or even MVS which is not. On 23/04/15 21:54, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2015-04-23 o 21:22, michelbutz pisze: You still need the ADCD's C'mon! Usage of Hercules implies pirated copy of z/OS! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2015-04-23 o 21:22, michelbutz pisze: You still need the ADCD's C'mon! Usage of Hercules implies pirated copy of z/OS! -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Vince Coen
I have emailed them to see if they do any deals for us who are retired and just bored. On 23/04/15 21:38, Dave Jones wrote: You can purchase a zPDT system from ITC. Go here: http://www.p390.com/updt/ for more details. DJ

New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread John McKown
Which may be of interest to those fortunate enough to have a zPDT system http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248205.html?Open Aside: I rather like that I can now get many Redbooks via Google Play. -- If you sent twitter messages while exploring, are you on a textpedition? He's about as

Re: New zPDT redbook

2015-04-23 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.rs-online.com/designspark/electronics/blog/my-raspberry-pi-thinks-it-s-a-mainframe http://austinrobertson.com/blog/2013/01/21/compile-hercules-4-0-on-a-raspberry-pi/ http://mainframed767.tumblr.com/post/41201454530/a-mainframe-on-your-raspberry-pi http://www.rpural.net/hercules_vm370