Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-19 Thread John McKown
Why would anybody who likes ASCII despise UNICODE? I could easily be confused, but US-ASCII is a proper subset of UNICODE. In particular, of UTF-8. Unless I have misunderstood everything I've ever read about Unicode. And both are close, but not identical(?), to ISO8859-1. I normally "tag" z/OS UNIX

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-19 Thread John Gilmore
Without, of course, agreeing with them, I am, again of course, familiar with Paul Gilmartin's 'I hate EBCDIC' refrain. More interesting in the question: Do he and that ilk despise UNICODE in equal measure? He quotes Shmuel's question | Did Il cimento dell'EBCDIC e dell'UNICODE ever get | resolve

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-19 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes: > I hate EBCDIC! old reference that EBCDIC was one of the biggest goofs for 360 ... was supposed to have been ascii ... "EBCDIC and the P-Bit (The Biggest Computer Goof Ever)" http://www.bobbemer.com/P-BIT.HTM -- virtualization experience starting J

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:20:37 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >>> >>Did Il cimento dell'EBCDIC e dell'UNICODE ever get resolved in >>Perl? > >There's some experimental work, but the Perldela for 5.18 warns that >they will drop the MVS support if nobody is willing to pick up the >ball. I belie

Re: Ported Tools - Unix and Re: Batch TSO COPY?

2013-06-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <5357809419765586.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 06/17/2013 at 08:32 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: >One of the audience was amused/interested enough to ask as I >explained the operands, "What if you omit 'CATLG'? Does the file >just sit there, orphaned?" "Well, yes, pretty much."

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <7405709421112672.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 06/17/2013 at 08:37 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: >On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:30:19 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > wrote: >> >>Will they only offer Perl 5.8.7, or will they offer a more current >>Perl? >> >Did Il cimento dell'EBCDIC e

Re: Ported Tools - Unix and Re: Batch TSO COPY?

2013-06-17 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 6/17/2013 at 09:32 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > Is OpenSSH under a GPL-like license? No. The Linux RPM for it says "BSD 3-Clause; X11/MIT" the same as curl. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acce

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:30:19 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > wrote: > >Will they only offer Perl 5.8.7, or will they offer a more current >Perl? > Did Il cimento dell'EBCDIC e dell'UNICODE ever get resolved in Perl? -- gil -- F

Re: Ported Tools - Unix and Re: Batch TSO COPY?

2013-06-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:54:09 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 6/17/2013 1:12 PM, John Eells wrote: >> I will share that we (IBM) are working on plans to update our Apache >> HTTP Server and OpenSSH offerings, and we will try to make information >> available as we conclude. > Is OpenSSH under a GPL-like

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 06/17/2013 at 11:17 AM, Kirk Wolf said: >According to this, the packages that will be picked up by Rocket >include: perl, cURL, bzip2, sudo, and PHP Will they only offer Perl 5.8.7, or will they offer a more current Perl? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread Mark Jacobs
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of John Eells [ee...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Ported Tools - Unix Mark Jacobs wrote: > > What is the difference between the Rocket Software Ported tools package > and the one ordered via Sh

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread John McKown
I'm fairly sure that went I ordered z/OS 1.12 back when, I just clicked on all the Ported Tools entry and the order included them, already integrated. But it's been a while and I've slept so many times that details are as fuzzy as the Scottish coast in the fog. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Ed

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/17/2013 1:12 PM, John Eells wrote: I will share that we (IBM) are working on plans to update our Apache HTTP Server and OpenSSH offerings, and we will try to make information available as we conclude. It would be nice if OpenSSH and cURL came with z/OS without the PITA separate order and

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread John Eells
Mark Jacobs wrote: What is the difference between the Rocket Software Ported tools package and the one ordered via ShopZSeries? (Posting on behalf of Jeff Magdall, who saw your post.) I wanted to respond to the questions you asked about IBM's Ported Tools offering. If you look at the IB

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread Kirk Wolf
There was mention of this by IBM on this at SHARE: https://share.confex.com/share/120/webprogram/Handout/Session12249/SHARE%20February%202013%20magdall.pdf (see page 9) According to this, the packages that will be picked up by Rocket include: perl, cURL, bzip2, sudo, and PHP This list does not

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 06/17/13 10:09, Walter Marguccio wrote: AFAIK the Ported Tools are now distribued by Rocket Software: http://www.rocketsoftware.com/portedtools and have been rebranded. I can't tell you whether the PTF you claim is in the package, but I'd try to download the tools from then following t

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread Walter Marguccio
> From: Jake anderson > Subject: Ported Tools - Unix > Any idea or suggestion on why this PTF is included ? Is it licensed or a > priced feature that we need to purchase seperately ?   AFAIK the Ported Tools are now distribued by Rocket Software: http://www.rocketsoftware.com/port

Re: Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread John McKown
The actual Ported Tools is a set of products which are freely licensed. When you order z/OS (or later as an independent order), you need to order the Ported Tools from the same site. You can order Ported Tools to be "bundled" with your z/OS order. Or you can order them later. They are in the list u

Re: [MVS-OE] Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US)
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [MVS-OE] Ported Tools - Unix Jake, According to the text this is not a FIX and was released in 2008. So not necessarily needed for your environment of z/OS V1.13 This is an SPE (Small Programming Enhancement) and released in 2008. So I do not think it would app

Re: [MVS-OE] Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
: [MVS-OE] Ported Tools - Unix Hello, Cross posted to IBM MAIN and MVS-OE list. we have a requirement of getting the ported tools feature to our Z/OS 1.13 system. I referred http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA22944. I understood that UA40677 is fix which introduces the ported tools

Ported Tools - Unix

2013-06-17 Thread Jake anderson
Hello, Cross posted to IBM MAIN and MVS-OE list. we have a requirement of getting the ported tools feature to our Z/OS 1.13 system. I referred http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA22944. I understood that UA40677 is fix which introduces the ported tools features. I tried downloadin