Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-06 Thread Jeff Holst
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:50:25 -0500, Greg Dorner gdor...@wpsic.com wrote: Will you pass these 'rants and expletives' to these auditors? :-D I will be passing them on to my manager. We are talking Federal auditors and billion dollar government contracts, so, no, I won't be telling the auditors

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-06 Thread Donald Likens
MEAS is a product that can monitor SMP and file activity and alert when something happens. For more information see http://www.infosecinc.com/meas.php. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Greg Dorner
Man, the auditors came up with a new one! Gap noted. Automated controls to prevent the installation of unapproved software were not documented. So I have been assigned the task of researching how to provide Automated controls to prevent the installation of unapproved software. I'm hoping

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-09-05 14:21, Greg Dorner pisze: Man, the auditors came up with a new one! Gap noted. Automated controls to prevent the installation of unapproved software were not documented. So I have been assigned the task of researching how to provide Automated controls to prevent the

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
What about IP liability concerns? On Sep 5, 2012, at 06:47, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2012-09-05 14:21, Greg Dorner pisze: Man, the auditors came up with a new one! Gap noted. Automated controls to prevent the installation of unapproved software were not documented. 1. The requirement is plain

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
the installation of unapproved software Man, the auditors came up with a new one! Gap noted. Automated controls to prevent the installation of unapproved software were not documented. So I have been assigned the task of researching how to provide Automated controls to prevent the installation

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-09-05 15:16, Paul Gilmartin pisze: There's a genuine IP concern here. An employee might bring in from a former employer an SD RAM with a TSO TRANSMIT unloaded library containing a licensed program product, not licensed at the new site and expose the new employer to significant

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Sep 5, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Perhaps the auditor should require that use of AMASPZAP be restricted. We've restricted AMASPZAP since before I started working for the University. We had a fun auditor request the other day. As a result of one request,

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread John Gilmore
I strongly encourage programmers to write 'throwaway' programs that investigate the files associated with a system. The idea is to obtain answers to such questions as o How many As? How many Bs? o More Ds than Es after controlling for Cs? that characterize the objects being manipulated by a

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Mitch
Is this application software developed in house? ISV updates? What? Check out ISPW or SysChange tools. Mitch McCluhan -Original Message- From: Greg Dorner gdor...@wpsic.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2012 5:21 am Subject: Preventing the installation

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Roberts, John J
I *HATE* checklist auditors. This sounds like a WINTEL based checklist It does indeed sound like the auditor is applying Wintel security principles to a mainframe system. The right questions to ask re mainframe security are: (1) Are the users properly authenticated? (2) Is the data properly

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:51:24 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: We've restricted AMASPZAP since before I started working for the University. Seriously. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Greg Dorner wrote: Man, the auditors came up with a new one! Gap noted. Automated controls to prevent the installation of unapproved software were not documented. DANGER! ALARM! EVACUATE! START DRP! GAP NOTED IN AUDITORS BRAIN CELLS! ;-D After reading all those threads: I have one request

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: BTW: What about pedophile porn pictures and movies? How can we control it? Maybe your cow-worker keeps some of these pictures as members of JSMITH.COBOL.VAR.OBJECT library? Ahem, how did you know that dataset and its contents? ;-D hm. ;-D No, I'm just joking,

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Greg Dorner
Will you pass these 'rants and expletives' to these auditors? :-D I will be passing them on to my manager. We are talking Federal auditors and billion dollar government contracts, so, no, I won't be telling the auditors anything. I let management (who are trained not to put their foot in their

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Chip Grantham
:Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Will you pass these 'rants and expletives' to these auditors? :-D I will be passing them on to my manager. We are talking Federal auditors and billion dollar

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:59:16 +0100, haralder haralder wrote: We explained our auditor that the software instalation tool in z/OS is SMP/E, which is protected by the GIM.* profile in the FACILITY class in our RACF. We printed the accesses for that profile and they were satisfied enough after we

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Scott Ford
, 2012 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software Greg DornerĀ  wrote: Man, the auditors came up with a new one! Gap noted. Automated controls to prevent the installation of unapproved software were not documented. DANGER! ALARM! EVACUATE! START DRP! GAP NOTED

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Bonno, Tuco
Any thoughts? I also accept rants and expletives. -- ok, here's a rant for you: auditors: their only function in life is to show up on the battlefield after the battle, and shoot the wounded. /s/ tuco bonno; Graduate, College of Conflict Management; University of SouthEast Asia;

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-09-05 17:50, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: BTW: What about pedophile porn pictures and movies? How can we control it? Maybe your cow-worker keeps some of these pictures as members of JSMITH.COBOL.VAR.OBJECT library? Ahem, how did you know that dataset and

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 50475f32.9050...@acm.org, on 09/05/2012 at 09:18 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: and this is the only locally produced documentation that makes sense on z/OS, While the auditors in question may be stark raving bonkers, there is other relevant documentation; change control

Re: Preventing the installation of unapproved software

2012-09-05 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Dorner Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 5:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Preventing the installation of unapproved software Man, the auditors came up