Re: TN3270E TNPROFx question (resolved)

2020-09-27 Thread Tony Thigpen
Simple resolution. Just needed to had my VTAMLIB to the STEPLIB for the TN3270E job. I am surprised that it was not already in the job. Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 9/27/20 7:23 PM: I want TN3270E connections on a specific port to display the VTAM USSTAB instead of going directly into

TN3270E TNPROFx question

2020-09-27 Thread Tony Thigpen
I want TN3270E connections on a specific port to display the VTAM USSTAB instead of going directly into CICS. But, if I take the existing "DEFAULTAPPL PRODCICS" out of the TNPROF0 member, I am getting what I think is the 'solicitor' panel and not the USSTAB I set up. I have a valid USSTAB

Re: Batchpipes (was: SORT question: ...)

2020-09-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 10:47:37 -0500, Hobart Spitz wrote: >They find each other via the name of the pipe. > Is there an authority administering names of pipes, lest two users inadvertently choose the same one? Embedding in that name could resolve this. RACF? Even so: //SORTIN DD

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-24 Thread Hobart Spitz
> Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA > > > > From: Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 23/09/2020 17:18 > Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: SORT question: How to both

Re: Batchpipes (was: SORT question: ...)

2020-09-24 Thread Hobart Spitz
annel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA > > > > From: Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: 23/09/2020 20:04 > Subject:[EXTERNAL] Batchpipes (was: SORT question: ...) > Sent by:IBM M

Re: Batchpipes (was: SORT question: ...)

2020-09-23 Thread Martin Packer
04 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Batchpipes (was: SORT question: ...) Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 19:23:33 +0100, Martin Packer wrote: >No, that would have to be another job, also specifying eg SUBSYS=PIPE. And >scheduled to run alongside the sort

Batchpipes (was: SORT question: ...)

2020-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 19:23:33 +0100, Martin Packer wrote: >No, that would have to be another job, also specifying eg SUBSYS=PIPE. And >scheduled to run alongside the sort. > Eek! How do they find each other? And perhaps more important, what if several programmers unknown to each other

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-23 Thread Martin Packer
o: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 23/09/2020 17:18 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 16:01:08 +0100, Martin Packer wrote: >Right.

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 16:01:08 +0100, Martin Packer wrote: >Right. That example used BatchPipes/MVS pipes - but it's not essential to >the use of OUTFIL SPLIT. The reason it used pipes was to enable cloning to >balance a pipe. > OK. I looked at your example (z/OS 2.1; not too misty). But what

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-23 Thread Martin Packer
er x23353" <031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 23/09/2020 14:54 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-23 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output? EXTERNAL EMAIL OUTFIL SPLIT. Something also from the mists of time, by no coincidence, is this: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/support

360 Question - Bantam

2020-09-23 Thread Neale Ferguson
Many years ago our S/360 source maintenance was done by an IBM program called BANTAM written by Barbara J Burian who later wrote texts on 370 Assembler programming. I am trying to find out if BANTAM was an acronym or just a name she chose as it’s sometimes written as Bantam. This particular

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-23 Thread Martin Packer
Date: 22/09/2020 20:34 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List > On the "tagging" that Sri Hari mentioned: > > 1) You needn't tag unless you

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-23 Thread Martin Packer
r.fm/marna-walle Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 22/09/2020 20:31 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: SORT question: How to both remove rec

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-22 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> On the "tagging" that Sri Hari mentioned: > > 1) You needn't tag unless you want to - and there will be some occasions > where you don't want to. Matrin, Fully agreed. I just wanted to show case with IFTHEN it is much easier to split into multiple files with different conditions. > Just some

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:08:12 +0100, Martin Packer wrote: > >SAVE has, to my mind, been most invaluable. Prior to this you had to >figure out the boolean complement of the INCLUDE= clause. With more than >one INCLUDE= clause in a sort it became hairier, requiring De Morgan's >Law*. :-) SAVE made

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-22 Thread Martin Packer
ube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Sri h Kolusu To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 22/09/2020 19:24 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output? Sent by:IBM Mainframe D

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks Sri, that is just what I need. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 2:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-22 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> In one pass of an input file is there a way to use SORT to both > remove identified records from an input file AND write those removed > records to a second output file? Peter, You don't need 2 passes of data, you can tag the records that match your identification and then use that tag to

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks Max, that would seem to be the way. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Massimo Biancucci Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write

Re: SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-22 Thread Massimo Biancucci
Peter, look at OUTFIL syntax and SAVE keyword. Regards. Max Mail priva di virus. www.avast.com

SORT question: How to both remove records from a file AND write removed records to a 2nd output?

2020-09-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
In one pass of an input file is there a way to use SORT to both remove identified records from an input file AND write those removed records to a second output file? I know I can run two passes of the input using INCLUDE in pass 1 to select just the records to be removed and a second pass

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
M to do so is a question I never asked. I never claimed nor intended to imply that z/OS awk was documented as supporting "classic"" datasets, only that in its current incarnation it actually does so. I seem to remember that some years ago on this forum or maybe over on MVS-OE, you (

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
How does the interpretation of Peter Farley's question depend on anybody's definition of support except Peter's. Only if IBM asked the question would IBM's definition be relevant. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 17:17:35 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It may depend on how you define support. There are some utilities that work >but for which the documentation doesn't mention it. The DD: recognition is >unsupported in the sense that if it breaks IBM will not consider that an error. >

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 12:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question On Thu, 17 Sep 2020

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>> Note that I changed your EQ to GE. So it would stop after reading no > more than 1001 irrelevant records, much improving the performance > for the OP's "very large" SORTIN. Note also that the OP said SORTIN > had previously been sorted, so no records having key LT,'ABC' would > precede the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Nash, Jonathan S.
: SORT selection question On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 14:58:44 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Of course that is an option, particularly the COBOL one. I am personally very >familiar with awk and z/OS awk does support "classic" datasets via DD, ... > Citation needed. Ac

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 14:58:44 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Of course that is an option, particularly the COBOL one. I am personally very >familiar with awk and z/OS awk does support "classic" datasets via DD, ... > Citation needed. According to what IBM document? On Thu, 17 Sep 2020

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> Can you set an a priori upper bound on the number of 'ABC' records? > Suppose you're confident that there are at most 1000. Gil, Unfortunately that wouldn't work. If your input have less than 1000 records for the key 'ABC' and you code STOPAFT=1001, then it would read the entire file as we

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SORT selection question You could also use an E15 and return an 8 when you get past the interesting data. Chris Blaicher Technical Architect Precisely.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question Why not just write a small program ? COBOL ? AWK ? :-) SED :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Scott Barry Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 6:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.E

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 8:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SORT selection question Hi Peter, If you have IBM File Manager you could do what you need with the Data Set Copy (DSC) function and an enhanced processing procedure: $$FILEM DSC INPUT=DDIN, $$FILEM OUTPUT=DDOUT

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-17 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Wednesday, September 16, 2020 9:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SORT selection question On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 08:20:07 +0800, Peter Van Dyke wrote: > >If you have IBM File Manager you could do what you need with the Data >Set Copy (DSC) function and an enhanced processing pr

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
C ') > >Peter > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >Sri h Kolusu >Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 3:54 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: SORT selection question > >EXTERNAL EMAIL > >>>> When

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>> Does that meet the OP's requirement to copy selected records to OUTPUT? > Is another command necessary? Gil, DSC (Data Set Copy) function will copy from the input DDIN to output DDOUT and as soon as it finds record greater than ABC it stops reading and all the records read before that are

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 08:20:07 +0800, Peter Van Dyke wrote: > >If you have IBM File Manager you could do what you need with the Data Set >Copy (DSC) function and an enhanced processing procedure: > >$$FILEM DSC INPUT=DDIN, >$$FILEM OUTPUT=DDOUT, >$$FILEM PROC=* >IF FLDI(1,3,C,'GT',"ABC")

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
frame Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Peter Van Dyke > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 8:20 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SORT selection question > > [ External - This message originated Externally. Use proper judgement

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher
:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SORT selection question [ External - This message originated Externally. Use proper judgement and caution with attachments, links, or responses. ] Hi Peter, If you have IBM File Manager you could do what you need with the Data Set Copy (DSC

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Peter Van Dyke
Hi Peter, If you have IBM File Manager you could do what you need with the Data Set Copy (DSC) function and an enhanced processing procedure: $$FILEM DSC INPUT=DDIN, $$FILEM OUTPUT=DDOUT, $$FILEM PROC=* IF FLDI(1,3,C,'GT',"ABC") THEN RETURN STOP IMMEDIATE/* Stop processing

COBOL ? Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Nash, Jonathan S.
Why not just write a small program ? COBOL ? AWK ? :-) SED :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Scott Barry Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 6:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: SORT selection question With DFSORT

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 08:58:59 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Not sure how a sequential file has a "KEY". It may be a value in fixed >columns. > I find "KEY" used apparently in that sense in numerous places in: z/OS Version 2 Release 4 DFSORT Application Programming Guide IBM SC23-6878-40

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
d see how it performs. All in my copious spare time of course . . . :) Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Scott Barry Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 6:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SORT selection question With DFSORT/SYNCSORT in mind

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I should have read the OP more carefully. Mea culpa. E15 exit? Used to do this to get keyranges from CA-Datacom using GETIT. Just pass the desired value to the exit to tell sort to finish. On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:58 AM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > Not sure how a sequential file has a "KEY". It

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Not sure how a sequential file has a "KEY". It may be a value in fixed columns. I'm sure it's why we've been sorting files for donkeys years. On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM Sri h Kolusu wrote: > > With DFSORT/SYNCSORT in mind, possibly a two-step process where the > > first step interrogates

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
For unordered data you need to read every record to have that feature. If you have the resources, put it into a DB2 table and apply deltas to the table. Or a VSAM KSDS. On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:36 AM Scott Barry wrote: > With DFSORT/SYNCSORT in mind, possibly a two-step process where the first

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> With DFSORT/SYNCSORT in mind, possibly a two-step process where the > first step interrogates an input data stream (no output generated, > mostly for optimization) to detect a relative-record# where the > limit-key-value (COND-argument) is then passed to a second step Scott, I think you missed

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Scott Barry
With DFSORT/SYNCSORT in mind, possibly a two-step process where the first step interrogates an input data stream (no output generated, mostly for optimization) to detect a relative-record# where the limit-key-value (COND-argument) is then passed to a second step (necessary control statement

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 20:17:10 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Thanks Sri, I am aware of the STOPAFT parameter, but it uses a hard-coded >count. When the goal is to find ALL records with the selected values and one >does not know in advance how many there are, it is not as helpful as it

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> When the goal is to find ALL records with the selected > values and one does not know in advance how many there are, it is > not as helpful as it could be. Peter, Unfortunately Sort does not have that feature. Thanks, Kolusu DFSORT Development IBM Corporation

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
question EXTERNAL EMAIL >>> When using SORT (either DFSORT or SYNCSORT) to select a relatively > small sample of records by (a) particular key value(s) from a *very > large* sequential file, Peter, You can use STOPAFT parm to stop reading the input once you get to a threshold val

Re: SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>> When using SORT (either DFSORT or SYNCSORT) to select a relatively > small sample of records by (a) particular key value(s) from a *very > large* sequential file, Peter, You can use STOPAFT parm to stop reading the input once you get to a threshold value. For example if you have file with

SORT selection question

2020-09-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
When using SORT (either DFSORT or SYNCSORT) to select a relatively small sample of records by (a) particular key value(s) from a *very large* sequential file, when one knows in advance that the "key values" used to select the desired sample records are in sorted order in the input file, is

Re: SYNCSORT Question with IFTHEN and JOINKEYS

2020-09-15 Thread Massimo Biancucci
Bill, I think the problem is the IFTHEN on BOTHFLS. SS "thinks" there's an option to write a record other than 711,1,CH,EQ,C'1' and 711,1,CH,NE,C'1'. We know it's not possible. So it's enough to change the IFTHEN in: IFTHEN=(WHEN(1,1,CH,EQ,C'1'), BUILD=(1:1,710)),

SYNCSORT Question with IFTHEN and JOINKEYS

2020-09-15 Thread George, William@FTB
Greetings I'm stumped with a sort using IFTHEN logic within a JOINKEYS process. I can't seem to get away from this error: BOTHFLS HAS INCOMPATIBLE LRECL NOTE: BOTHFLS is the output file for records in both files. :) F1ONLY & F2ONLY are self-explanatory. Here's are the cards: JOINKEYS

Re: [External] Re: Simple JES2 spool offload question

2020-09-12 Thread Roger Bolan
-- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Roger Bolan > Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 5:44 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [External] Re: Simple JES2 spool offload question > > See Tuning work selection criteria > < > https://www.ibm.co

Re: [External] Re: Simple JES2 spool offload question

2020-09-11 Thread Pommier, Rex
offload question See Tuning work selection criteria <https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.hasa300/has2v5_Tuning_work_selection_criteria.htm> about 2/3 of the way down the page it talks about using JOBNAME to the left or right of the slash in more

Re: Simple JES2 spool offload question

2020-09-06 Thread Roger Bolan
Sep 4, 2020 at 11:25 AM Pommier, Rex wrote: > Hi List, > > I have a question that has puzzled me on and off for years regarding the > work selection criteria for the JES2 spool offload facility. That is the > use of the slash. I get the part about criteria left of the slash

Simple JES2 spool offload question

2020-09-04 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi List, I have a question that has puzzled me on and off for years regarding the work selection criteria for the JES2 spool offload facility. That is the use of the slash. I get the part about criteria left of the slash being required, i.e. if you have JOBNAME=ABCDE and WS=(JOB/) only

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-31 Thread CM Poncelet
t; Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 5:17 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component > > Is the data set (and dfsms) set up for CA_RECLAIM? > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of &g

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-31 Thread Jousma, David
  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE  |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 8:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Simple VSAM question

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
According to the LISTC it has CA-RECLAIM(YES) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 5:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component Is the data set (and dfsms

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-31 Thread Allan Staller
Is the data set (and dfsms) set up for CA_RECLAIM? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 5:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component [CAUTION: This Email is from

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread CM Poncelet
EVELs to its smallest possible number, >> no? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >> Mike Schwab >> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 7:48 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: Simple VSAM que

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Mike Schwab
SD. A > REORG should reduce the number of LEVELs to its smallest possible number, no? > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Mike Schwab > Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 7:48 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: S

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 30 Aug 2020 15:12:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main stars...@mindspring.com (Lizette Koehler) wrote: >List - > > > >I have a VSAM Dataset that has grown over the years. When it was set up - >the INDEX space was left to default > One other thing to check for in addition to the

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 7:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the Texas Comptroller's email system. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you expect

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Michael Watkins
component on DASD. A REORG should reduce the number of LEVELs to its smallest possible number, no? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 7:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Mike Schwab
CYL(4 1) should leave one cylinder empty. Cylinder CA will result is a more efficient index. On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 5:12 PM Lizette Koehler wrote: > > List - > > > > I have a VSAM Dataset that has grown over the years. When it was set up - > the INDEX space was left to default > > > > I am

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
How many index levels do you have? Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 8/30/20 6:11 PM: List - I have a VSAM Dataset that has grown over the years. When it was set up - the INDEX space was left to default I am wondering if it makes sense to override the Track Allocation and put

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Michael Watkins
. -Original Message- From: Michael Watkins Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 6:00 PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Cc: Michael Watkins Subject: RE: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component The index component alone is 2.4 MB? 2,400,000/56664 = 43 tracks? Sure, Allocate the index

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Michael Watkins
you have already activated 'CA reclaim' for all pertinent DATACLASes in ISMF. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 5:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
List - I have a VSAM Dataset that has grown over the years. When it was set up - the INDEX space was left to default I am wondering if it makes sense to override the Track Allocation and put it in Cylinders. We are noticing a little bit of an increase in run time during reorg. I was

MQ Archive Logs (MQ Noob question)

2020-08-20 Thread Michael Knigge
issue at runtime? If not, can anyone tell me how to configure MQ ? I’ve found CSQ800.SCSQPROC(CSQ4ZPRM) on my system – I guess I have to modify this and assemble the load module? But the the next question: //SYSLIN DD * INCLUDE SYSP INCLUDE ARVP INCLUDE LOGP INCLUDE OLDLOAD

DASD VOL1 label question

2020-08-07 Thread Tony Thigpen
I was playing with flash-copy and I came across something I have not seen before as it relates to the VOL1 label on some DASD and I can't find it documented anywhere. At the very end of the VOL1 record, starting at offset x'48' (decimal position 73-80). On pack 558, I am seeing "D84B

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-08-02 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2020-08-01 18:47, Charles Mills wrote: I only know for a fact that all of the swans I have ever seen were white. At least on the side of the swans that you saw. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905)

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-08-01 Thread Charles Mills
--- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2020 5:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question I know for a fact that DETACH causes (via some route) the ECB to be posted. To be s

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-08-01 Thread Jackson, Rob
: ESTAEX exit WAIT question [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments.] I know for a fact that DETACH causes (via some route) the ECB to be posted. To be snide, I'd say that you know for a fact that in all the cases you've seen DETACH causes the ECB to be posted

Basic ESTAE and subtask question

2020-08-01 Thread Peter Relson
an ESTAI routine passed once on a single ATTACH could potentially get driven multiple times as an ABEND of the parent task was propagated to various daughter tasks? I'd quibble about an abend being propagated to daughter tasks. I don't think of it as "propagated" (particularly because the

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-08-01 Thread Peter Relson
nothing in the path that would have gotten you into recovery would have changed that ECB. So "it always works" is not "a fact". Perhaps what is a fact is the wait that you have chosen to do (in the mainline) always works. To avoid the 310 abend, the question woul

Re: ISPF development question

2020-07-31 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
ternal):Re: ISPF development question CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL Yes, there is. Run in TEST mode. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.f54dg00/testmod.htm On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 1:14 AM Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > Hi, > > I was told to develop an ISPF appli

Re: ISPF development question

2020-07-31 Thread Edward Finnell
That was my argument three decades ago. There was a tuning tip that even tho there was no Class the directory would be loaded and that was enough of an edge to make it happen. With today's DASD it might be superfluous.   In a message dated 7/31/2020 10:47:20 AM Central Standard Time,

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-31 Thread Charles Mills
AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question And you probably always got a 13E abend message on the console. :) The normal thing to do is to tell the subtask to end (usually by posting an ECB the subtask can wait on) and when the ATTACH ECB is posted, the parent wak

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-31 Thread Don Poitras
the WAIT is harmless at worst so I think I > will leave it in place. > Charles > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Peter Relson > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 7:15 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.ED

Re: Basic ESTAE and subtask question

2020-07-31 Thread Charles Mills
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 6:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Basic ESTAE and subtask question any recovery routines defined for the originating task

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-31 Thread Charles Mills
it in place. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 7:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question If I remember correctly, DETACH of a subtask does

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-31 Thread Peter Relson
If I remember correctly, DETACH of a subtask does not return to the invoker until that task has completely terminated (and I mean completely -- all resmgrs have run, the TCB is freemained). If so, there is no reason to have an ECB to wait upon. In fact I think the ATTACH ECB is not even used

Re: Basic ESTAE and subtask question

2020-07-31 Thread Peter Relson
any recovery routines defined for the originating task are propagated to the new Task" It's a good idea to look at the current level of the books for things like that, since that's where corrections (if any) are likely to show up. I saw Charles' reference in z/OS 2.2 KC but in z/OS 2.4 it

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question Taking these two posts together, I think you should look at BPX1SDD/BPX4SDD a.k.a. set_dub_default(). If you set the value to DUBPROCESS in the job step, before ATTACHing your subtask, the subtask will be a separate process and should clean up at its

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
20 4:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question OK, great. I was surprised you can ATTACH from your ESTAE recovery routine at all... so I picked up something new. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2020-07-30 12:59, Charles Mills wrote: Thanks @Peter. I wondered about an ATTACH RMTR. I was fishing a bit when I wrote the OP. I understand the problem now: I have a non-authorized batch program. I have complete control over the logic. It runs a UNIX program as a subtask. I have no control

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Steve Smith
OK, great. I was surprised you can ATTACH from your ESTAE recovery routine at all... so I picked up something new. sas On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:53 PM Charles Mills wrote: > I think I have it. I call mvsprocclp (BPX1MPC, BPX4MPC) — Clean up kernel > resources from the main task and that

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
for the suggestions. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 11:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 12:59, Charles M

Re: Basic ESTAE and subtask question

2020-07-30 Thread Binyamin Dissen
f it only applies when STAI or ESTAI is in effect.) :>Here's my question: :>A main program issues ESTAEX (exit addr != 0). It then issues an ATTACHX :>with no STAI or ESTAI. While the subtask is still running the user cancels :>the program. Question: will the ESTAEX exit be driven once (

Re: ISPF development question

2020-07-30 Thread Tom Conley
On 7/30/2020 1:09 PM, Edward Finnell wrote: I think there might might be a knuckle-ball in VLF. Since ESA we put ISPF Messages and Panels in VLF with Freeze. To get updated panels have to modify VLF to UNFREEZE and then reFREEZE to get the new directory loaded. Edward, How can you put

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Steve Smith
I believe an ESTAI recovery runs on the subtask as well. Can't say which is better. Either may obviate the need to re-attach it, which would be good, because you might find more problems with that. sas On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 2:44 PM Tony Harminc wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 12:59,

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Tony Harminc
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 12:59, Charles Mills wrote: > > (I can't clean up the signal registration myself with BPX1MSD() -- that > fails because the running main task does not own the signal registration, > the terminated subtask does.) > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > Could you use a task

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question If I understand what you're saying, you want to treat being CANCELed like a message to recycle your subtask. That will not work. An ESTAE recovery routine isn

Re: ESTAEX exit WAIT question

2020-07-30 Thread Steve Smith
If I understand what you're saying, you want to treat being CANCELed like a message to recycle your subtask. That will not work. An ESTAE recovery routine isn't allowed to retry for a CANCEL. All sorts of things happen with RTM for a cancel, and trying to continue running isn't a viable option.

Basic ESTAE and subtask question

2020-07-30 Thread Charles Mills
I am trying to grasp the implications of "any recovery routines defined for the originating task are propagated to the new Task" in the ATTACH documentation. (It's under STAI/ESTAI but it's not clear to me if it only applies when STAI or ESTAI is in effect.) Here's my question: A ma

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