Re: RES: VSAM question
I download z/OS to a massive ZFS file. According to my notes (and something you don't mention) is that the STORAGE CLASS should not have a SDR (Sustained Data Rate - has to do with striped datasets.) It's my understanding that extended datasets can't be striped. Maybe you should put the LISTC of your dataset on here ... Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Bldg 6, Room B-110 Charleston, WV 25305 (304)957-8292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of william janulin Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RES: VSAM question OK there has been an email trail on this but I believe I was not clear in my explanations. It is my understanding that I can define VSAM clusters using a DATACLASS parameter that specifies extended format as the dataset type and extended addressability in order to get past the 4 gig limitation without having the cluster under SMS management. Now, I updated the DATACLASS interactively in ISMF and after running a SMS update. it now shows that it has EXTENDED in the datasettype and extended addressability set to YES. I then attempt to define the cluster but I am getting that reason code of 110 in the define job. If SMS updated the dataclass, as I have indicated, why would ACS routines even be involved here? Bill J. On Monday, July 20, 2015 3:08 PM, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO 4254.itur...@bradesco.com.br wrote: Hi, It does not need to be sms managed, but you have to assign a DATACLASS with the appropriated definitions when defining it. Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto BANCO BRADESCO S.A. 4250 / DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: +55 11 3684-2177 R: 42177 3-1404 Fax: +55 11 3684-4427 Banco Bradesco. Patrocinador oficial dos Jogos Olímpicos e Paralímpicos Rio 2016. -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Em nome de william janulin Enviada em: segunda-feira, 20 de julho de 2015 15:57 Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Assunto: VSAM question To list; Is there a way around the 4 gig limitation when defining a LINEAR cluster on volumes not managed my SMS? I have to download Websphere v8.5 and am attempting to define a ZFS dataset large enough to hold the product plus its myriad of ptfs. Thank you in advance, Bill J. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN AVISO LEGAL br...Esta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. LEGAL ADVICEbr...This message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RES: VSAM question
Ann, Thanks for the info. I could not do a LISTC on the cluster because it never got created due to the catalog error. No matter, I went into the ACS routines and did modifications needed for the DATACLASS that I wanted to use. I was under the mistaked impression that I could get by without making those mods. Bottom line here is that once I updated the ACS routines, validated them, and put them online, I was indeed able to create the cluster. a BIG thank you to the isters that have responded to my question. Regards,Bill J. On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:17 AM, Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com wrote: Bill, The DATACLAS and STORCLAS routines are always driven in allocation (well, almost always). The STORCLAS routine must make a null STORCLAS assignment in order for the data set to be non-SMS managed. If it were me, I'd scale back the space allocation as an experiment and see what happens on the allocation. That can provide a clue as to what issue really needs to be resolved. HTH, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of william janulin Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 7:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RES: VSAM question OK there has been an email trail on this but I believe I was not clear in my explanations. It is my understanding that I can define VSAM clusters using a DATACLASS parameter that specifies extended format as the dataset type and extended addressability in order to get past the 4 gig limitation without having the cluster under SMS management. Now, I updated the DATACLASS interactively in ISMF and after running a SMS update. it now shows that it has EXTENDED in the datasettype and extended addressability set to YES. I then attempt to define the cluster but I am getting that reason code of 110 in the define job. If SMS updated the dataclass, as I have indicated, why would ACS routines even be involved here? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RES: VSAM question
OK there has been an email trail on this but I believe I was not clear in my explanations. It is my understanding that I can define VSAM clusters using a DATACLASS parameter that specifies extended format as the dataset type and extended addressability in order to get past the 4 gig limitation without having the cluster under SMS management. Now, I updated the DATACLASS interactively in ISMF and after running a SMS update. it now shows that it has EXTENDED in the datasettype and extended addressability set to YES. I then attempt to define the cluster but I am getting that reason code of 110 in the define job. If SMS updated the dataclass, as I have indicated, why would ACS routines even be involved here? Bill J. On Monday, July 20, 2015 3:08 PM, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO 4254.itur...@bradesco.com.br wrote: Hi, It does not need to be sms managed, but you have to assign a DATACLASS with the appropriated definitions when defining it. Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto BANCO BRADESCO S.A. 4250 / DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: +55 11 3684-2177 R: 42177 3-1404 Fax: +55 11 3684-4427 Banco Bradesco. Patrocinador oficial dos Jogos Olímpicos e Paralímpicos Rio 2016. -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Em nome de william janulin Enviada em: segunda-feira, 20 de julho de 2015 15:57 Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Assunto: VSAM question To list; Is there a way around the 4 gig limitation when defining a LINEAR cluster on volumes not managed my SMS? I have to download Websphere v8.5 and am attempting to define a ZFS dataset large enough to hold the product plus its myriad of ptfs. Thank you in advance, Bill J. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN AVISO LEGAL br...Esta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. LEGAL ADVICEbr...This message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
RES: VSAM question
Hi, It does not need to be sms managed, but you have to assign a DATACLASS with the appropriated definitions when defining it. Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto BANCO BRADESCO S.A. 4250 / DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: +55 11 3684-2177 R: 42177 3-1404 Fax: +55 11 3684-4427 Banco Bradesco. Patrocinador oficial dos Jogos Olímpicos e Paralímpicos Rio 2016. -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Em nome de william janulin Enviada em: segunda-feira, 20 de julho de 2015 15:57 Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Assunto: VSAM question To list; Is there a way around the 4 gig limitation when defining a LINEAR cluster on volumes not managed my SMS? I have to download Websphere v8.5 and am attempting to define a ZFS dataset large enough to hold the product plus its myriad of ptfs. Thank you in advance, Bill J. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN AVISO LEGAL br...Esta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vínculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. LEGAL ADVICEbr...This message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
