Re: RMDS for reporting on Mainframe

[Lucas Rosalen]

Just for correctness, if I recall correctly CA-View is the old SAR and just
do syslog/joblog archival/retrieval.
I'm quite sure my former customer used CA-Dispatch for report distribution.

Lucas

On Apr 10, 2017 16:37, "Lizette Koehler" <stars...@mindspring.com> wrote:

There are products out there

Systemware XPTR (not sure of today's name)

CA View (Old Mobius product I think)

$AVERS

And more

It will depend on $$ to spend and what features you need.

Searching the internet should be able to start your review process.

Not only look at the features, but how the conversion from RMDS to new
product will be handled.

Lizette


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>
> Hi,
>
> Is anyone using RMDS on Mainframe?
> Since its being discontinued , I am interested in knowing what other
shops are
> doing.
> Please share your solutions as far as RMDS is concerned.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivas G
>

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Re: RMDS for reporting on Mainframe

[John McKown]

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Lizette Koehler 
wrote:

> There are products out there
>
> Systemware XPTR (not sure of today's name)
>
> CA View (Old Mobius product I think)
>
> $AVERS
>
> And more
>
> It will depend on $$ to spend and what features you need.
>

​One thing that is (now) of greater importance to me is "Where is the data
stored?". There there seems to be two choices in today's world: individual
sequential(?) data sets for each job or in a single "data store" ​data set
which contains a "directory" and comes with "management software" to do
things such as request a reprint or archive old output. I rather liked the
"one PS data set per job/report" philosophy because it was easy to read
reports via ISPF 3.4. Even better, IMO, would be "one UNIX file per
report". Why UNIX you ask? Because it is _easy_ to use something like
"grep" to find complicated search strings. Well, it is easy so long as you
know regular expressions; which I do. Also, depending on your company's
technical expertise, it would be "easy" to transfer the reports to a
distributed system and index it similar to a "web search" engine so that
your user could do a Google (or Bing) like search.

We actually use a product which is PC resident (Report 2 Web). The z/OS
system uses JQP from MacKinney Software to send reports to a "LAN printer",
which is actually a "service" on a Windows machine. This service looks at
the data in the report (which includes a job separator which we use to
communicate with the service) to classify it. It can then do a number of
things with the data (including creating a subset from an embedded "table"
which is stored in an Excel spreadsheet), but we manly just store it in a
reformatted file on a LAN disk. The "index" to this is kept in an Oracle
data base (but, IIRC, it could use any ODBC compliant data base). Users are
defined to the software for access to specific reports. The users access
the reports to which they are authorized via their browser (thus to "2 Web"
part of the name). The file format on disk is undocumented, but fairly
simple to figure out.


>
> Searching the internet should be able to start your review process.
>
> Not only look at the features, but how the conversion from RMDS to new
> product will be handled.
>

​We converted from Mobius Infopack. We had help from a consulting firm
which basically wrote some programs to parse the output from an Infopack
report on available reports, and create "print" jobs which sent the "print"
out to the "LAN printer". Basically, it was a programmed operator to
request a reprint of every report in Infopack.​ Mobius was not well pleased
about the "automation", as I recall.



>
> Lizette
>


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Re: RMDS for reporting on Mainframe

[Lizette Koehler]

There are products out there

Systemware XPTR (not sure of today's name)

CA View (Old Mobius product I think)

$AVERS

And more

It will depend on $$ to spend and what features you need.

Searching the internet should be able to start your review process.

Not only look at the features, but how the conversion from RMDS to new product 
will be handled.

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of SrinivasG
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 2:28 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: RMDS for reporting on Mainframe
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is anyone using RMDS on Mainframe?
> Since its being discontinued , I am interested in knowing what other shops are
> doing.
> Please share your solutions as far as RMDS is concerned.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> Srinivas G
> 

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Re: RMDS for reporting on Mainframe

[Brian France]

We moved from RMDS more years ago than I can remember. We use JSF from 
Mackinney.



On 4/10/2017 5:27 AM, SrinivasG wrote:

Hi,

Is anyone using RMDS on Mainframe?
Since its being discontinued , I am interested in knowing what other shops are 
doing.
Please share your solutions as far as RMDS is concerned.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Srinivas G

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RMDS for reporting on Mainframe

[SrinivasG]

Hi,

Is anyone using RMDS on Mainframe? 
Since its being discontinued , I am interested in knowing what other shops are 
doing.
Please share your solutions as far as RMDS is concerned.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Srinivas G

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