On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:19:05 -0700, Jon Perryman wrote:
... z/OS updates are at the module level rather than product level.
Depending on which product, as you have acknowledged in another forum.
From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net
on
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:35:07 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
FSVO there (perhaps John trimmed it). HLASM manages to display
PTF level on the first page of every SYSPRINT.
It manages to display something, but unless the dependency graph is
linear you can't tell what other service is on.
On 01.04.2014 06:19, Jon Perryman wrote:
Shmuel is correct. Having a PTF level can be misleading. You are only seeing
PTF numbers that IBM has chosen to display. If the C compiler consists of a 100
modules, then there are 100 PTF levels which may or may not be important to you.
UNIX has this
z/OS maintenance is a smorgasbord. Those 4 PTF's listed by C imply that all
PREREQ's/COREQ's are installed and is what IBM considers a base level for C. I
suspect this was done to appease UNIX guru's who want to know a level. For most
products, IBM gives you a dotted release level. Additional
IMHO fundamental question: What do you need by specyfying PTF or
maintenance level?
Just to know what PTF ar applied? Then go to SMP/E and prepare detailed
report. Preferably with all nnREQ's.
Just to know what is the level? You don't need such information!
To know whether compiler
C and C++ compilers are very large. Unless you get some sort of statement from
IBM about when these 4 PTF numbers will change, you won't know what they imply.
Maybe they reflect a PUT level or maybe they represent something entirely
different. In addition, LE comes into play too. It's possible
Hi
We would like to compile our product again with the same compiler
environment we delivered
some years ago. Seems with C/C++ not so easy.
On 01.04.2014 09:19, R.S. wrote:
IMHO fundamental question: What do you need by specyfying PTF or
maintenance level?
Just to know what PTF
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:14:09 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
If, as HLASM appears to do, there is a unique CSECT that is updated
by each PTF, then each PTF PREreqs its immediate predecessor, etc.,
inductively. The graph of service is unbranched; you don't have the
Chinese menu smorgasbord of
Jon Perryman wrote:
begin extract
Rarely will radical changes such as changing optimization algorithms
be implemented thru a PTF, In general these types of changes occur at
FMID level (Although there are exceptions).
/end extract
I think I understand and agree with the thrust of what he is
IMHO for the future you should have whole z/OS image archived. Maybe as
virtual machine guest or just inactive LPAR.
You will never know for sure what component affected some compiler (or
binder, or anything else?) function.
My €0,02
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03/31/2014
at 04:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
FSVO there (perhaps John trimmed it). HLASM manages to display
PTF level on the first page of every SYSPRINT.
It manages to display something, but unless the
Hi
We would like to document the actual maintenance or PTF level or
software level of the compiler, we are using to compile our product.
How can I find this ?
(It is the C/C++ compiler)
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Miklos Szigetvari
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 09:31:57 +0200, Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
Hi
We would like to document the actual maintenance or PTF level or
software level of the compiler, we are using to compile our product.
How can I find this ?
(It is the C/C++ compiler)
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From: Norbert Friemel nf.ibmm...@web.de
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Date: 31/03/2014 11:16
Subject:Re: Software (compiler) PTF or maintenance level
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Closest I can find is this:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/cbclr1b0/19.2
But that doesn't show the PTF level. Perhaps _someone_ (hint, hint) should
put in a request that the C compiler include the PTF level in the compile
listing? HLASM does.
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at
Check out the PHASEID compiler option.
On 31/03/2014 3:31 PM, Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
Hi
We would like to document the actual maintenance or PTF level or
software level of the compiler, we are using to compile our product.
How can I find this ?
(It is the C/C++ compiler)
David,
Thanks! I added that compile parm to my make file and got messages like:
CCN(I) Product(5694-A01) Phase(CCNEOPTP) Level(UI15229.z1r13)
CCN(I) Product(5694-A01) Phase(CCNDRVR ) Level(UI15229.z1r13)
CCN(I) Product(5694-A01) Phase(CCNEP ) Level(UI15229.z1r13)
CCN(I)
Thank you for all, we know already the PHASEID,
currently all the phase-id's are the same and it is equal with the
highest PTF level.
What if they would be different ?
On 31.03.2014 14:15, John McKown wrote:
David,
Thanks! I added that compile parm to my make file and got messages like:
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on 03/31/2014
at 06:03 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
But that doesn't show the PTF level.
There is no such thing; there's only the list of all service
installed.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 09:26:46 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
But that doesn't show the PTF level.
There is no such thing; there's only the list of all service
installed.
FSVO there (perhaps John trimmed it). HLASM manages to display PTF level
on the first page of every SYSPRINT. (But
Shmuel is correct. Having a PTF level can be misleading. You are only seeing
PTF numbers that IBM has chosen to display. If the C compiler consists of a 100
modules, then there are 100 PTF levels which may or may not be important to you.
UNIX has this concept because the product is replaced as
On 2014-03-31, at 22:19, Jon Perryman wrote:
Shmuel is correct. Having a PTF level can be misleading. You are only seeing
PTF numbers that IBM has chosen to display. If the C compiler consists of a
100 modules, then there are 100 PTF levels which may or may not be important
to you.
(But
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