Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Our current process: When time comes to switch back from daylight saving time to standard time, we're stopping our DBMS and middleware softwar for one hour. Reason being that we cannot get commitment from the application side that each and every application is either using UTC or that it can

Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-11-28 o 12:53, Peter Hunkeler pisze: Our current process: When time comes to switch back from daylight saving time to standard time, we're stopping our DBMS and middleware softwar for one hour. Reason being that we cannot get commitment from the application side that each and

Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Hunkeler wrote: When time comes to switch back from daylight saving time to standard time, we're stopping our DBMS and middleware softwar for one hour. Reason being that we cannot get commitment from the application side that each and every application is either using UTC or that it can

AW: Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Radoslaw, I'm 100% with you, but we need to get that (stupid) idea out of management's heads again.so I need more that it's a stupid idea type of arguments. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

AW: Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread Peter Hunkeler
And I am 100% with you as well, Elardus I whished anyone would be able to stop that ridiculous and usless timeshifting twice a year. Did you know that Swiss people actually had a voting back in the late 70's or early 80's if we do want to start this glorious thing? We decided no we do not.

Re: AW: Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-11-28 o 16:28, Peter Hunkeler pisze: Radoslaw, I'm 100% with you, but we need to get that (stupid) idea out of management's heads again.so I need more that it's a stupid idea type of arguments. OK, let's try: * 02:31 is ambigous. It can lead to legal issues (when it happened

Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread Bob Shannon
I admit it would have been a funny situation to be a single small country not switching to DST while all countries around us do. Russia doesn't switch. In the US, The Navajo Nation observes DST but the rest of Arizona does not. I too wish the practice would stop. Bob Shannon Rocket

Re: AW: Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-11-28, at 08:47, R.S. wrote: * Using clock slow down means fake time. It is not only innacurate, this is intentional = it is fogery. Would you say in a court ok we recorded the transaction, but the time field is fake? In the U.S. some states have a constitutional limit on the

Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 12:53:33 +0100, Peter Hunkeler wrote: Someone has put the idea in our managment's head that there is a software soltution which avoids the one hour pause. The software would slows down the (local time) clock so that one software hour will take two real hours to pass by.

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2014-11-28 Thread Peter Hunkeler
In the country that takes pride in being the world's oldest democracy? What am I missing? The reality? Sadly, it's not the only case. --Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: AW: Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-11-28, at 08:47, R.S. wrote: * Itech issues #2: what about other systems ? I'm guess during slow down your mainframe won't be synchronized with other servers in your datacenter. Do you like to have different timestamps in the systems? What about time sensitive protocols like

AW: Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Norbert, Many thanks for link to the SAP offering (I intentionally didn't write solution). Very interesting. But not applicable to z/OS -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread J O Skip Robinson
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time Norbert, Many thanks

Re: Software to help switching from daylight saving time to standard time

2014-11-28 Thread Ed Finnell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm In a message dated 11/28/2014 1:30:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, jo.skip.robin...@sce.com writes: P.S. Our SAP runs on UNIX. For whatever reason, our SAP was shut down for an hours-long interval that conveniently included the time change