(fwd) Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-31 Thread Mark Post
On 10/30/2014 at 11:26 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: Can z/OS read the DVD? Can z/VM or z/Linux read the DVDs for the respective operating systems? For z/VM that's a yes. For Linux for System z, that's a coming soon to a distribution near you. For Linux, that will be

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread Timothy Sipples
Assuming the installation procedures are as desired/requested, is there any problem with DVD media when/as physical media distribution is required? They're pretty large for software distribution purposes -- over 4 GB each at least before compression. Certainly large enough to get started up and

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread R.S.
As I wrote previously, DVD is more like Internet delivery. You cannot directly read data from DVD - I'm talking about ServerPac, because for z/VM installation process DVD is perfectly ok. In fact I have never orderded anything *from IBM* on DVD, but I assume the first step is upload DVD

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread Jousma, David
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 7:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TS1150 and software installation As I wrote previously, DVD is more like Internet delivery. You cannot directly read data from DVD - I'm talking about ServerPac, because for z/VM

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of922278b3.6f83534e-on48257d81.002cc5fa-48257d81.002f2...@sg.ibm.com, on 10/30/2014 at 04:31 PM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com said: DVD is the only common, universal media type for mainframes, isn't it? For z/VM, perhaps, but for z/OS? I thought that it wasn't supported. Or are you

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread John Eells
Shmuel, we have supported software delivery on DVD for some time now for the z/OS platform. shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: In of922278b3.6f83534e-on48257d81.002cc5fa-48257d81.002f2...@sg.ibm.com, on 10/30/2014 at 04:31 PM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread Barry Merrill
: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TS1150 and software installation Assuming the installation procedures are as desired/requested, is there any problem with DVD media when/as physical media distribution is required? They're pretty large for software

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread John Eells
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) wrote: snip In fact I have never orderded anything *from IBM* on DVD, but I assume the first step is upload DVD content to HFS. That means you require a lot of HFS space, then a lot of space for unzip and RECEIVE processes. Compare it to tape: you receive

(fwd) Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread Clark Morris
On 30 Oct 2014 06:28:14 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ee...@us.ibm.com (John Eells) wrote: Shmuel, we have supported software delivery on DVD for some time now for the z/OS platform. Can z/OS read the DVD? Can z/VM or z/Linux read the DVDs for the respective operating systems? Clark Morris

Re: (fwd) Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: On 30 Oct 2014 06:28:14 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main ee...@us.ibm.com (John Eells) wrote: Shmuel, we have supported software delivery on DVD for some time now for the z/OS platform. Can z/OS read the DVD?

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TS1150 and software installation Assuming the installation procedures are as desired/requested, is there any problem with DVD media when/as physical media distribution is required? They're pretty

Re: (fwd) Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread retired mainframer
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: TS1150 and software installation ​Directly? No. However, in the case of z

Re: (fwd) Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-30 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-10-30 o 19:51, retired mainframer pisze: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: TS1150 and software

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-10-28 o 22:00, John Eells pisze: r.skoru...@snip-it.pl (R.S.) wrote: A new tape drive was announced recently. Tech specification says there is no upport for the oldest Jaguar cartridges (JA aka ETC). The question is how IBM solved a problem with software distribution? Are there any

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-29 Thread Tom Brennan
I don't want tape for product installations, but I can understand why others might. The biggest problem I see with DVD/Internet installation is that the processes often seem to be created by non-mainframe people. So you might see giant FTP's to/from PC's, firewall issues, USS files, Java,

TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-28 Thread R.S.
A new tape drive was announced recently. Tech specification says there is no upport for the oldest Jaguar cartridges (JA aka ETC). The question is how IBM solved a problem with software distribution? Are there any plans to use new tape carts as an option for Shopzseries software? --

Re: TS1150 and software installation

2014-10-28 Thread John Eells
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) wrote: A new tape drive was announced recently. Tech specification says there is no upport for the oldest Jaguar cartridges (JA aka ETC). The question is how IBM solved a problem with software distribution? Are there any plans to use new tape carts as an