Re: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration
Hello
Could someone please forward me the share presentation 11020 and 14361.
Unfortunately I am not able to download this pdfs
On Thu, 24 Dec, 2020, 8:31 pm Steve Pryor, wrote:
> In answer to your question, there are plenty of "things to be done",
> depending upon factors such as:
>
> - what tape management system do you have? Will the new technology share
> the scratch volser range or will a new one be used?
> - will the migration be performed volume-by-volume ('cloning') or
> dataset-by-dataset (copy)?
> - do applications maintain their own tape metadata repositories outside of
> the tape management system (CA-View, HSM, others)?
> - how many drives/how much time will be available for the migration as
> opposed to production work?
> - are the source/target volumes going to be SMS managed or will UNIT
> esoterics be used?
> - how many datasets and how much data needs to be migrated vs how much can
> 'naturally' expire or roll off? What's the target date?
> - who's going to perform the migration tasks? Contractors? Vendors?
> In-house staff?
>
> There are lots of issues to consider. You might want to have a look at
> some of the Share proceedings on this topic. I've done a few of these in
> the past both as general education and in conjunction with our tape
> migration software (see Share Sessions such as 11020 and 14361, among many
> others).
>
> Steve Pryor
> DTS Software, Inc.
> 1.919.833.8426 x162
> st...@dtssoftware.com
> www.dtssoftware.com
>
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Re: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration
Thank you all. I will do my research and get back to you if I have any questions. On Fri, 25 Dec, 2020, 3:43 am Longnecker, Dennis, < dennis.longnec...@courts.wa.gov> wrote: > We did this migration not too long ago. It was actually pretty easy once > everything was setup and the devices were available on all LPARs. > > The main tool we used was FDRCOPY. With a few simple jobs, we were able > to use it and migrate almost 80% of the items on the TS7720 to the DLM. It > did the copies and recataloged everything to the new DLM "tapes".For my > 7 years of FDRARCHIVE tapes, we used the FDRARCHIVE utilizes to copy > everything that we needed to keep. FDRCOPY also let us "stack" items onto > "tapes", so a lot of the 30 years of "logs", we were able to "stack". It > was quite nice that it handled all the recataloging so that none of the > using jobs needed to be modified at all. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Peter > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 8:22 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration > > > Hello > > I am interested to know about your experience on migrating TS7720 to EMC > DLM ? > > Basically what are the changes to be done in zOSA Before migrating ? Any > gotchas ? > > We use HSM and is there anything to be done ? > > Peter > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration
We did this migration not too long ago. It was actually pretty easy once everything was setup and the devices were available on all LPARs. The main tool we used was FDRCOPY. With a few simple jobs, we were able to use it and migrate almost 80% of the items on the TS7720 to the DLM. It did the copies and recataloged everything to the new DLM "tapes".For my 7 years of FDRARCHIVE tapes, we used the FDRARCHIVE utilizes to copy everything that we needed to keep. FDRCOPY also let us "stack" items onto "tapes", so a lot of the 30 years of "logs", we were able to "stack". It was quite nice that it handled all the recataloging so that none of the using jobs needed to be modified at all. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 8:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration Hello I am interested to know about your experience on migrating TS7720 to EMC DLM ? Basically what are the changes to be done in zOSA Before migrating ? Any gotchas ? We use HSM and is there anything to be done ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration
We decided not to do that and go with a TS7760 instead. Easy peasy Roger W. Suhr suhr...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 11:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration Hello I am interested to know about your experience on migrating TS7720 to EMC DLM ? Basically what are the changes to be done in zOSA Before migrating ? Any gotchas ? We use HSM and is there anything to be done ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration
If you look in the IBM MAIN archives for DLM, you should find lots of information. I have gone both ways IBM to EMC and EMC to IBM There are some changes to the way the Library is defined in ISMF> There are some IOGEN considerations You should find the vendor you are going to, very helpful in guiding you along the line. We engaged EMC for our migration. Other than new concepts due to the way EMC handles TAPE Function, it was not very bad. We did a phased migration, which means Our first steps were IOGEN Library Set up in ISMF Updating the ACS code so certain datasets could use the DLM Run a bunch of tests Once we were comfortable with the DLM, we got everything else up. But do look for DLM in IBM Main Archives. Lots of good references in there. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration Hello I am interested to know about your experience on migrating TS7720 to EMC DLM ? Basically what are the changes to be done in zOSA Before migrating ? Any gotchas ? We use HSM and is there anything to be done ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration
The migration was complex enough that we engaged a separate third party ISV to
guide us through. This was going from a combination of virtual (STK) and
physical tape 100% DLm. Allow several months.
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In answer to your question, there are plenty of "things to be done", depending
upon factors such as:
- what tape management system do you have? Will the new technology share the
scratch volser range or will a new one be used?
- will the migration be performed volume-by-volume ('cloning') or
dataset-by-dataset (copy)?
- do applications maintain their own tape metadata repositories outside of the
tape management system (CA-View, HSM, others)?
- how many drives/how much time will be available for the migration as opposed
to production work?
- are the source/target volumes going to be SMS managed or will UNIT esoterics
be used?
- how many datasets and how much data needs to be migrated vs how much can
'naturally' expire or roll off? What's the target date?
- who's going to perform the migration tasks? Contractors? Vendors? In-house
staff?
There are lots of issues to consider. You might want to have a look at some of
the Share proceedings on this topic. I've done a few of these in the past both
as general education and in conjunction with our tape migration software (see
Share Sessions such as 11020 and 14361, among many others).
Steve Pryor
DTS Software, Inc.
1.919.833.8426 x162
st...@dtssoftware.com
www.dtssoftware.com
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Re: TS7720 to EMC DLM migration
In answer to your question, there are plenty of "things to be done", depending
upon factors such as:
- what tape management system do you have? Will the new technology share the
scratch volser range or will a new one be used?
- will the migration be performed volume-by-volume ('cloning') or
dataset-by-dataset (copy)?
- do applications maintain their own tape metadata repositories outside of the
tape management system (CA-View, HSM, others)?
- how many drives/how much time will be available for the migration as opposed
to production work?
- are the source/target volumes going to be SMS managed or will UNIT esoterics
be used?
- how many datasets and how much data needs to be migrated vs how much can
'naturally' expire or roll off? What's the target date?
- who's going to perform the migration tasks? Contractors? Vendors? In-house
staff?
There are lots of issues to consider. You might want to have a look at some of
the Share proceedings on this topic. I've done a few of these in the past both
as general education and in conjunction with our tape migration software (see
Share Sessions such as 11020 and 14361, among many others).
Steve Pryor
DTS Software, Inc.
1.919.833.8426 x162
st...@dtssoftware.com
www.dtssoftware.com
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TS7720 to EMC DLM migration
Hello I am interested to know about your experience on migrating TS7720 to EMC DLM ? Basically what are the changes to be done in zOSA Before migrating ? Any gotchas ? We use HSM and is there anything to be done ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
