Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-10-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 006101ceb8b8$8fd70610$af851230$@mcn.org, on 09/23/2013 at 04:56 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Unicode is not a character set Sure it is. If it's UTF- UTF-8 is a transform, not a character set, even though you can specify it in charset for MIME. If it's UTF-16 or UCS-2 you can

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9791327634617405.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 09/23/2013 at 09:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: o (not mentioned) A simple byte-by-byte lexical sort doesn't sort into UNICODE code point order (but I'm guessing). This may not be very important. I suspect

Trigraphs (was: UNICODE to EBCDIC)

2013-09-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:18:30 +0800, David Crayford wrote: The C++ committee wanted to deprecate trigraphs in the last standard http://tinyurl.com/n3nas3u. EBCDIC was the only tangible reason for keeping them alive. I've lost count of the amount of times I've had a C/C++ analysis tool choke

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-24 Thread Charles Mills
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 4:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC z/OS Unicode Services is an AWESOME facility but there is a little bit of a learning curve (or coding curve if there is such a thing

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Scott Barry
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:54:44 -0500, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com wrote: WebSphere Application Server supplies some of its information in its SMF records in Unicode format. Is there a facility available to convert Unicode to EBCDIC? Suggest structured Internet search argument

UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Donald Likens
WebSphere Application Server supplies some of its information in its SMF records in Unicode format. Is there a facility available to convert Unicode to EBCDIC? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/23/2013 9:54 AM, Donald Likens wrote: WebSphere Application Server supplies some of its information in its SMF records in Unicode format. Is there a facility available to convert Unicode to EBCDIC? Which EBCDIC code page would you like? Check out Unicode Services User's Guide

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Barry Merrill
: 214 350 3694 – prefer email, still works -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Donald Likens Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: UNICODE to EBCDIC WebSphere Application Server

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Clark Morris
COBOL provides the way to describe UNICODE fields, EBCDIC fields, and ISO 8 byte character fields, I am fairly certain simple MOVE statements among them would suffice. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.comwrote: On 9/23/2013 10:22 AM, John McKown wrote: If you mean a program, then the UNIX iconv command can do that. There is also the iconv set of C language subroutines if you want to write your own.

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/23/2013 10:22 AM, John McKown wrote: If you mean a program, then the UNIX iconv command can do that. There is also the iconv set of C language subroutines if you want to write your own. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/edclb1c0/3.440

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/23/2013 12:02 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:44:04 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: On 9/23/2013 10:22 AM, John McKown wrote: If you mean a program, then the UNIX iconv command can do that. There is also the iconv set of C language subroutines if you want to write your own.

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:44:04 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: On 9/23/2013 10:22 AM, John McKown wrote: If you mean a program, then the UNIX iconv command can do that. There is also the iconv set of C language subroutines if you want to write your own.

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Jon Perryman
For official character conversion in assembler, see the IBM manual z/OS Unicode Services User's Guide and Reference  which documents use of their unicode services. Jon Perryman.   From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com Actually, COBOL has the builtin

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread John McKown
If you mean a program, then the UNIX iconv command can do that. There is also the iconv set of C language subroutines if you want to write your own. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/edclb1c0/3.440 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/cbcpg1c0/8.6.3

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Charles Mills
of character sets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode. If it's UTF-8 then you can do a 98% job if you just treat it as ASCII. If it's UTF-16 or UCS-2 you can do a 98% job if you just discard bytes 0, 2, 4, ... and treat bytes 1, 2, 5, ... as ASCII. There is actually a Unicode EBCDIC (UTF-EBCDIC

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
represented big-endian in storage but little-endian in network transmission. There is actually a Unicode EBCDIC (UTF-EBCDIC) but it's pretty obscure. Not as obscure as it deserves to be. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Charles Mills
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: Unicode is not a character set (or format) -- it's a whole family of character sets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode. If it's UTF-8 then you can do a 98% job if you just treat it as ASCII. If it's

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 September 2013 20:18, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: There is actually a Unicode EBCDIC (UTF-EBCDIC) but it's pretty obscure. Not as obscure as it deserves to be. Never miss a chance on this one, do you Gil... As you

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread John Gilmore
Paul Gilmartin's opinions about EBCDIC are not always or necessarily wrong in detail, but they are wholly predictable. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread John Gilmore
On 9/23/13, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Gilmartin's opinions about EBCDIC are not always or necessarily wrong in detail, but they are wholly predictable. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:23:04 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: Not as obscure as it deserves to be. Never miss a chance on this one, do you Gil... As you know, I think UTF-EBCDIC was a great idea, and can't understand how it failed to catch on. Maybe there's just not much call for invoking legacy

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread David Crayford
On 24/09/2013 10:43 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: It doesn't say (but perhaps TR # 16 does) which EBCDIC code page (or for that matter, which flavor of ASCII -- ISO8859-??) is used. This could be chaotic. And the dreadful LF-NEL pitfall lurks. ASCII suffers similar problems; else why would we have

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:18:30 +0800, David Crayford wrote: The C++ committee wanted to deprecate trigraphs in the last standard http://tinyurl.com/n3nas3u. EBCDIC was the only tangible reason for keeping them alive. I've lost count of the amount of times I've had a C/C++ analysis tool choke