Re: Don't Hire Chuck Norris was Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-12 Thread Art Gutowski
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 22:32:31 +0300, Binyamin Dissen 
 wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 15:18:40 -0300 Clark Morris  wrote:
>
>:>[Default] On 10 Jun 2020 07:43:41 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
>:>ku...@us.ibm.com (Kurt Quackenbush) wrote:
>:>
>:>>> snip
>:>>Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
>:>>Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.
>:>
>:>Don't Hire Chuck Norris for any systems work.
>
>Well..
>
>Back  years ago, it was much faster to backup the resvol+smp datasets,
>do the apply, and then do a restore than the APPLY CHECK.
>
>Now, APPLYing to the running system ...

Chuck Norris doesn't need to APPLY PTFs.  He just stares down the console until 
the code straightens itself out.

Art

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Re: Don't Hire Chuck Norris was Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 15:18:40 -0300 Clark Morris  wrote:

:>[Default] On 10 Jun 2020 07:43:41 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
:>ku...@us.ibm.com (Kurt Quackenbush) wrote:
:>
:>>> snip
:>>Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
:>>Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.
:>
:>Don't Hire Chuck Norris for any systems work.

Well..

Back  years ago, it was much faster to backup the resvol+smp datasets,
do the apply, and then do a restore than the APPLY CHECK.

Now, APPLYing to the running system ...

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Don't Hire Chuck Norris was Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 10 Jun 2020 07:43:41 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
ku...@us.ibm.com (Kurt Quackenbush) wrote:

>> snip
>Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
>Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

Don't Hire Chuck Norris for any systems work.

Clark Morris
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Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Thanks Kurt for the clarification 


Carmen Vitullo 

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From: "Kurt Quackenbush"  
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 9:43:18 AM 
Subject: Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step 

On 6/10/2020 9:32 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: 
> IIRC you can restart the process, SMP/E is smart enough to check what's been 
> unpaxed and continue from the failing unpax. 

Yes you can restart the RECEIVE. SMP/E is smart enough to check what's 
already been downloaded, not what's already been unpaxed, and continue 
from there. But the result is roughly the same. 

When you restart the RECEIVE, yes you can specify a different SMPWKDIR 
directory. 

Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development 
Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. 

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Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 08:25:30 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote:

>I am running a CBPDO download from IBM. If I get past the download of all the 
>files, but fail during the "unpack step" due to a small smpwkdir; can I 
>restart pointing to a different smpwkdir resuming in the "unpack step"? Or do 
>I have to start from the beginning again?
>
If you preserved SMPNTS and enlarged SMPWKDIR:

If you re-run the RECEIVE FROMNETWORK job, SMP/E will attempt
to verify SHA checksums.  If any match, SMP/E will bypass download
of that archive.

Or, you can change to RECEIVE FROMNTS and bypass any attempt
to download.  I don't believe you need to change SMPCLINT or
SMPSRVE; they're irrelevant to FROMNTS.

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Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Kurt Quackenbush

On 6/10/2020 9:32 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:

IIRC you can restart the process, SMP/E is smart enough to check what's been 
unpaxed and continue from the failing unpax.


Yes you can restart the RECEIVE.  SMP/E is smart enough to check what's 
already been downloaded, not what's already been unpaxed, and continue 
from there.  But the result is roughly the same.


When you restart the RECEIVE, yes you can specify a different SMPWKDIR 
directory.


Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.

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Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I've done that 
In my case I went from a real zfs filesystem to a tfs and point to it in the 
receive job 

//SMPWKDIR DD PATHDISP=KEEP, 
// PATH='/SYST/local/smpe/workdir/' 


which is 

File system name: 
TMPSMPWK 
Mount point: 
/SYST/local/smpe/workdir 


Status . . . . . . . . : Available 
File system type . . . : TFS 
Mount mode . . . . . . : R/W 
Device number . . . . : 33293 
Type number . . . . . : 1 
DD name . . . . . . . : 
Block size . . . . . . : 8192 
Total blocks . . . . . : 2147483647 
Available blocks . . . : 2147450744 
Blocks in use . . . . : 32903 


Carmen Vitullo 

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Subject: Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step 

Can I point to a completely different directory? Or on the hand, how do I add 
volumes to a mounted HFS file system? 

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Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Bill Giannelli
Can I point to a completely different directory? Or on the hand, how do I add 
volumes to a mounted HFS file system?

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Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I've been successful increasing SMPWKDIR after a failure and starting from the 
'top', I've seen SMP pick up from where it left off successfully with no 
issues. 


Carmen Vitullo 

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From: "Allan Staller"  
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:32:47 AM 
Subject: Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step 

I don't know if SMPWKDIR can be changed at this point in the process. I do know 
that the application is mart enough to restart at the point of failure, as 
opposed to "at the top". 

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I am running a CBPDO download from IBM. If I get past the download of all the 
files, but fail during the "unpack step" due to a small smpwkdir; can I restart 
pointing to a different smpwkdir resuming in the "unpack step"? Or do I have to 
start from the beginning again? 
thanks 
Bill 

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Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Allan Staller
I don't know if SMPWKDIR can be changed at this point in the process. I do know 
that the application is mart enough to restart at the point of failure, as 
opposed to "at the top".

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Bill Giannelli
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files, but fail during the "unpack step" due to a small smpwkdir; can I restart 
pointing to a different smpwkdir resuming in the "unpack step"? Or do I have to 
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thanks
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Re: restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Carmen Vitullo
IIRC you can restart the process, SMP/E is smart enough to check what's been 
unpaxed and continue from the failing unpax. 



Carmen Vitullo 

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From: "Bill Giannelli"  
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 8:25:30 AM 
Subject: restart GIMSMP in unpack step 

I am running a CBPDO download from IBM. If I get past the download of all the 
files, but fail during the "unpack step" due to a small smpwkdir; can I restart 
pointing to a different smpwkdir resuming in the "unpack step"? Or do I have to 
start from the beginning again? 
thanks 
Bill 

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restart GIMSMP in unpack step

2020-06-10 Thread Bill Giannelli
I am running a CBPDO download from IBM. If I get past the download of all the 
files, but fail during the "unpack step" due to a small smpwkdir; can I restart 
pointing to a different smpwkdir resuming in the "unpack step"? Or do I have to 
start from the beginning again?
thanks
Bill

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