Re: simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat

2017-08-18 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Manualus  interruptus ?

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Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat

Please don't interrupt the manuals, they don't like that.  :-D

TGIF!

sas

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Tracy Adams <tad...@fbbrands.com> wrote:
> Thanks Tom, the way I first interrupted the manual was incorrect... you can 
> use recatalog and catalog in the same define command and get the desired 
> results (an entry in the second mastcat that include the SMS attributes).
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:44 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat
>
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:23:25 +, Tracy Adams wrote:
>
>>So I am built a new master catalog for the 2.2 migration.
>>I have some sys1. Datasets that live on various sms volumes
>>that I want add catalog entries to in my new mastcat.   If I
>>just use IDCAMS define nonvsam I get a good entry but there is no SMS 
>>information.
>>I can't use "recatalog" because the catalog names are different.
>
> Yes you can, for SYS1. data sets. See the IDCAMS manual.
>
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Re: simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat

2017-08-18 Thread Steve Smith
Please don't interrupt the manuals, they don't like that.  :-D

TGIF!

sas

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Tracy Adams <tad...@fbbrands.com> wrote:
> Thanks Tom, the way I first interrupted the manual was incorrect... you can 
> use recatalog and catalog in the same define command and get the desired 
> results (an entry in the second mastcat that include the SMS attributes).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Tom Marchant
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:44 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat
>
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:23:25 +, Tracy Adams wrote:
>
>>So I am built a new master catalog for the 2.2 migration.
>>I have some sys1. Datasets that live on various sms volumes
>>that I want add catalog entries to in my new mastcat.   If I
>>just use IDCAMS define nonvsam I get a good entry but there is no SMS
>>information.
>>I can't use "recatalog" because the catalog names are different.
>
> Yes you can, for SYS1. data sets. See the IDCAMS manual.
>
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Re: simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat

2017-08-18 Thread Tracy Adams
Thanks Tom, the way I first interrupted the manual was incorrect... you can use 
recatalog and catalog in the same define command and get the desired results 
(an entry in the second mastcat that include the SMS attributes).

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tom Marchant
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:23:25 +, Tracy Adams wrote:

>So I am built a new master catalog for the 2.2 migration.
>I have some sys1. Datasets that live on various sms volumes 
>that I want add catalog entries to in my new mastcat.   If I 
>just use IDCAMS define nonvsam I get a good entry but there is no SMS 
>information.
>I can't use "recatalog" because the catalog names are different.

Yes you can, for SYS1. data sets. See the IDCAMS manual.

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Re: simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat

2017-08-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 20:23:25 +, Tracy Adams wrote:

>So I am built a new master catalog for the 2.2 migration.
>I have some sys1. Datasets that live on various sms volumes 
>that I want add catalog entries to in my new mastcat.   If I 
>just use IDCAMS define nonvsam I get a good entry but there 
>is no SMS information.  
>I can't use "recatalog" because the catalog names are different.

Yes you can, for SYS1. data sets. See the IDCAMS manual.

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Re: simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat

2017-08-17 Thread Burrell, Todd
Not to be to flippant, but why in the heck would you have SYS1 datasets in your 
master catalog also SMS managed?   Seems like you are creating a nasty 
scenario. 

But if you have to have this, then REPRO MERGECAT is probably the only solution 
I know of to move the entries from one master to the other.   Just be specific 
with the LEVEL in the command. 


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tracy Adams
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 4:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat

So I am built a new master catalog for the 2.2 migration.  I have some sys1. 
Datasets that live on various sms volumes that I want add catalog entries to in 
my new mastcat.   If I just use IDCAMS define nonvsam I get a good entry but 
there is no SMS information.  I can't use "recatalog" because the catalog names 
are different.  Mergecat would move the entry and REPRO will copy all the junk 
I want to leave behind.  What is the correct procedure to recreate an SMS 
managed SYS1 dataset into a second MASTCAT?  TIA Tracy

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simple questions on migrating to a new mastercat

2017-08-17 Thread Tracy Adams
So I am built a new master catalog for the 2.2 migration.  I have some sys1. 
Datasets that live on various sms volumes that I want add catalog entries to in 
my new mastcat.   If I just use IDCAMS define nonvsam I get a good entry but 
there is no SMS information.  I can't use "recatalog" because the catalog names 
are different.  Mergecat would move the entry and REPRO will copy all the junk 
I want to leave behind.  What is the correct procedure to recreate an SMS 
managed SYS1 dataset into a second MASTCAT?  TIA Tracy

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