Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-10-01 Thread Shane Ginnane
Sorry, "Scott covered most of this ..." -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-10-01 Thread Shane Ginnane
Scot covered most of this - most importantly the need to inspect the workloads on the LPAR(s) of interest. Despite being for DEVL, the latter report is better as the machine is now busy. So let's turn the question around: Q: Is PROD getting all the CPU it wants ?. A: YES. The weights indicate y

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-10-01 Thread Tom Brennan
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Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-10-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
1985? You're just a young'un. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Martin Packer Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 15:20 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand FWIW the vast majority of my customer set have multiple

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-10-01 Thread Martin Packer
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Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-10-01 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
gib...@wsu.edu (Gibney, Dave) writes: > In my opinion, back in the day, there as a benefit of going to > fewer/faster engines. But, with a deep drop off a precipice when fewer > reached one. > > Never again will I willingly agree to be on a single CPU machine. in the past, multiple engines have be

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-10-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Scott Chapman > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:08 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand > > Snip >

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-10-01 Thread Scott Chapman
As Martin mentioned, "unaccounted" could be multiple things. However, from the reports you've shown, my first guess would also be that it's likely related to CPU contention. However, I would start by looking at RMF III's DELAY, PROC, and ENCLAVE (if we're talking about DDF threads) and looking

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-09-30 Thread Gary Snider
Thanks for the reply Martin. I have checked paging and it is very low. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-09-30 Thread Martin Packer
014 14:43 Subject:Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List Thanks for the reply Scott. You are correct, we only have 1 CPU. We have many DB2 threads with high "unaccounted for time". One of the possible reasons for this could be th

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-09-30 Thread Gary Snider
Thanks for the reply Scott. You are correct, we only have 1 CPU. We have many DB2 threads with high "unaccounted for time". One of the possible reasons for this could be that zOS/DB2 is waiting on CPU. I was hoping to use the CPU Activity report to determine if this is contributing to "unacc

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-09-29 Thread Scott Chapman
It appears you have a single CP. If the CPU is busy on one of the other systems when PROD wants to be dispatched, it will have to wait for the other system to give up the processor or for PR/SM to steal it away. My guess is that's why you're seeing what you're seeing that, and my inclination is

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-09-27 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 09/27/2014 01:36 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote: > As a distraction from the shellshock sideshow, > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 15:54:05 +, Gary Snider wrote: > >> I am trying to understand how to utilize the RMF CPU report so that I can >> evaluate utilization of our CP and latent demand. > Tread with

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-09-26 Thread Shane Ginnane
As a distraction from the shellshock sideshow, On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 15:54:05 +, Gary Snider wrote: >I am trying to understand how to utilize the RMF CPU report so that I can >evaluate utilization of our CP and latent demand. Tread with care - there be dragons. RMF is a sampler - on such a li

zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-09-26 Thread Gary Snider
Hello, I am trying to understand how to utilize the RMF CPU report so that I can evaluate utilization of our CP and latent demand. The publications on this report I have read, indicate that when LPAR Busy < MVS Busy, this is an indication of latent demand. In the report below, this is the ca