Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF?
Marna - thank you - if we had RMF enabled I'd be using it :-) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marna WALLE Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 8:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? I think this matter has been settled already, but just to add. You must have enabled RMF (in IFAPRDxx) to use Resource Monitoring in z/OSMF. This is from the z/OSMF Config book for Resource Monitoring: "Enable the optional priced feature, Resource Measurement Facility (RMF), on one of the systems in your enterprise." Just as something to think about in general: the z/OSMF plugins for optional priced features do look at if you've got it enabled (in IFAPRDxx), so that you can't go 'around' enablement verification. -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation and Migration IBM Poughkeepsie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF?
I think this matter has been settled already, but just to add. You must have enabled RMF (in IFAPRDxx) to use Resource Monitoring in z/OSMF. This is from the z/OSMF Config book for Resource Monitoring: "Enable the optional priced feature, Resource Measurement Facility (RMF), on one of the systems in your enterprise." Just as something to think about in general: the z/OSMF plugins for optional priced features do look at if you've got it enabled (in IFAPRDxx), so that you can't go 'around' enablement verification. -Marna WALLE z/OS System Installation and Migration IBM Poughkeepsie -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF?
Your welcome, I was sure they had a viable solution Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lionel B. Dyck (TRA)" <lionel.d...@va.gov> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 6:07:27 AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? Thanks everyone - the BMC support told me CMF can't but that I can add a link to the MainView Explorer to zOSMF to provide similar functionality. -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? I suspect CMF may have a GPMSERVE like connector, Sorry I could not be more help - BMC's technical support is generally pretty good, that would be my next route. they may still require the same security setup as the CFZCIM and GPMSERVE does if they do. Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lionel B. Dyck (TRA)" <lionel.d...@va.gov> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:09:58 AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? The resource plugin is enabled but it needs a connector to rmf - something cmf does not have. -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? Have your installed the RMF plugin ? I have z/OSMF installed with only the configuration assistant and the WLM plugin, I've not tried to install the RMF plugin I don't see anything specific in the descriptor file for the RMF plugin that is specific to RMF only. see izu.rmf.descriptor in usr/lpp/zosmf/V2R1/configuration/descriptors/ if you're at z/OS 2.1 HTH's Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lionel B. Dyck (TRA)" <lionel.d...@va.gov> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:31:05 AM Subject: zOSMF and CMF? Does anyone know if CMF can interface with the zOSMF Performance modules in place of RMF? I've not found anything in the CMF pubs (so far) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF?
Thanks everyone - the BMC support told me CMF can't but that I can add a link to the MainView Explorer to zOSMF to provide similar functionality. -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? I suspect CMF may have a GPMSERVE like connector, Sorry I could not be more help - BMC's technical support is generally pretty good, that would be my next route. they may still require the same security setup as the CFZCIM and GPMSERVE does if they do. Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lionel B. Dyck (TRA)" <lionel.d...@va.gov> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:09:58 AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? The resource plugin is enabled but it needs a connector to rmf - something cmf does not have. -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? Have your installed the RMF plugin ? I have z/OSMF installed with only the configuration assistant and the WLM plugin, I've not tried to install the RMF plugin I don't see anything specific in the descriptor file for the RMF plugin that is specific to RMF only. see izu.rmf.descriptor in usr/lpp/zosmf/V2R1/configuration/descriptors/ if you're at z/OS 2.1 HTH's Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lionel B. Dyck (TRA)" <lionel.d...@va.gov> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:31:05 AM Subject: zOSMF and CMF? Does anyone know if CMF can interface with the zOSMF Performance modules in place of RMF? I've not found anything in the CMF pubs (so far) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zOSMF and CMF?
Of course, z/OSMF doesn't access RMF records directly. It interfaces to RMF facilities that present performance information for Z/OSMF to display. Similarly with CMF. z/OSMF interfaces to BMC's Mainview to present performance information. See here: https://communities.bmc.com/docs/DOC-21208 Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Norman Hollander on Desertwiz Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2016 3:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: zOSMF and CMF? IIRC, about 95% of the record data is the same. Has anyone tried chatting with CMF Support at BMC? zN -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barry Merrill Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: zOSMF and CMF? The only difference in the CMF and RMF SMF records is the value in the PRODUCT name in CMF is either CMF-CPM or CMF-IPF. But I don't know if those records are accepted by zOSMF. Barry Merrilly yours, Herbert W. Barry Merrill, PhD President-Programmer Merrill Consultants MXG Software 10717 Cromwell Drive technical questions: supp...@mxg.com Dallas, TX 75229 http://www.mxg.comadmin questions: ad...@mxg.com tel: 214 351 1966 fax: 214 350 3694 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: zOSMF and CMF? Does anyone know if CMF can interface with the zOSMF Performance modules in place of RMF? I've not found anything in the CMF pubs (so far) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF?
I suspect CMF may have a GPMSERVE like connector, Sorry I could not be more help - BMC's technical support is generally pretty good, that would be my next route. they may still require the same security setup as the CFZCIM and GPMSERVE does if they do. Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lionel B. Dyck (TRA)" <lionel.d...@va.gov> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:09:58 AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? The resource plugin is enabled but it needs a connector to rmf - something cmf does not have. -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? Have your installed the RMF plugin ? I have z/OSMF installed with only the configuration assistant and the WLM plugin, I've not tried to install the RMF plugin I don't see anything specific in the descriptor file for the RMF plugin that is specific to RMF only. see izu.rmf.descriptor in usr/lpp/zosmf/V2R1/configuration/descriptors/ if you're at z/OS 2.1 HTH's Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lionel B. Dyck (TRA)" <lionel.d...@va.gov> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:31:05 AM Subject: zOSMF and CMF? Does anyone know if CMF can interface with the zOSMF Performance modules in place of RMF? I've not found anything in the CMF pubs (so far) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF?
The resource plugin is enabled but it needs a connector to rmf - something cmf does not have. -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF and CMF? Have your installed the RMF plugin ? I have z/OSMF installed with only the configuration assistant and the WLM plugin, I've not tried to install the RMF plugin I don't see anything specific in the descriptor file for the RMF plugin that is specific to RMF only. see izu.rmf.descriptor in usr/lpp/zosmf/V2R1/configuration/descriptors/ if you're at z/OS 2.1 HTH's Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lionel B. Dyck (TRA)" <lionel.d...@va.gov> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:31:05 AM Subject: zOSMF and CMF? Does anyone know if CMF can interface with the zOSMF Performance modules in place of RMF? I've not found anything in the CMF pubs (so far) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zOSMF and CMF?
IIRC, about 95% of the record data is the same. Has anyone tried chatting with CMF Support at BMC? zN -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barry Merrill Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: zOSMF and CMF? The only difference in the CMF and RMF SMF records is the value in the PRODUCT name in CMF is either CMF-CPM or CMF-IPF. But I don't know if those records are accepted by zOSMF. Barry Merrilly yours, Herbert W. Barry Merrill, PhD President-Programmer Merrill Consultants MXG Software 10717 Cromwell Drive technical questions: supp...@mxg.com Dallas, TX 75229 http://www.mxg.comadmin questions: ad...@mxg.com tel: 214 351 1966 fax: 214 350 3694 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: zOSMF and CMF? Does anyone know if CMF can interface with the zOSMF Performance modules in place of RMF? I've not found anything in the CMF pubs (so far) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zOSMF and CMF?
Have your installed the RMF plugin ? I have z/OSMF installed with only the configuration assistant and the WLM plugin, I've not tried to install the RMF plugin I don't see anything specific in the descriptor file for the RMF plugin that is specific to RMF only. see izu.rmf.descriptor in usr/lpp/zosmf/V2R1/configuration/descriptors/ if you're at z/OS 2.1 HTH's Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lionel B. Dyck (TRA)" <lionel.d...@va.gov> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:31:05 AM Subject: zOSMF and CMF? Does anyone know if CMF can interface with the zOSMF Performance modules in place of RMF? I've not found anything in the CMF pubs (so far) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zOSMF and CMF?
The only difference in the CMF and RMF SMF records is the value in the PRODUCT name in CMF is either CMF-CPM or CMF-IPF. But I don't know if those records are accepted by zOSMF. Barry Merrilly yours, Herbert W. Barry Merrill, PhD President-Programmer Merrill Consultants MXG Software 10717 Cromwell Drive technical questions: supp...@mxg.com Dallas, TX 75229 http://www.mxg.comadmin questions: ad...@mxg.com tel: 214 351 1966 fax: 214 350 3694 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: zOSMF and CMF? Does anyone know if CMF can interface with the zOSMF Performance modules in place of RMF? I've not found anything in the CMF pubs (so far) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
zOSMF and CMF?
Does anyone know if CMF can interface with the zOSMF Performance modules in place of RMF? I've not found anything in the CMF pubs (so far) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
