Re: ziip api for vendors

2009-08-03 Thread Sam Siegel
I take your point. It is not clear if it is internal use only or if it will be eventually made public in some form. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: Ibm-Main Sam wrote: I just ran across this item about the zIIP api for vendors. Reading it

Re: ziip api for vendors

2009-08-03 Thread Sam Siegel
Agreed on both points. The purpose of the web site it is establish a stake-in-the-ground about what you know and when you know it ... specifically for IP rights. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote: Maybe a preemptive strike to keep someone else from

Re: ziip api for vendors

2009-08-04 Thread Sam Siegel
Great find. Reading between the lines one could imagine that this technology could be used to consolidate workloads from, potentially, any existing instruction set. This could increase the rate of non-host server consolidation significantly. Sam On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Mark Post

Re: Java question

2009-08-17 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote: The JIT compiler can do things that a static compiler can't. The more frequently a method is used, the more optimisations can be applied, such as inlining other methods and branch table

Re: TYPRUN=SCAN

2009-08-24 Thread Sam Siegel
TYPRUN=SCAN has had this type of behaviour since at least the mid '80's. I suspect it has been like this for a lot longer. Regards, Sam On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Brendan Friel bjpafr...@hotmail.comwrote: I have never come across this (or anything like this) in hundreds (thousands with

Re: Principle of Least Astonishment (Was: IDCAMS delete with mask)

2009-09-28 Thread Sam Siegel
Darn ... I was laying 2:1 odds. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: I don't think he's quite that old. Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com 9/28/2009 3:13 PM Did Lionel Dyck predate William of Ockham (1288-1327)? Bill Fairchild Software Developer

Re: Planned IBMLink Outage October 2nd-3rd

2009-09-29 Thread Sam Siegel
Thank you for speaking everyone's words. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.cawrote: On 28 Sep 2009 13:47:39 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: 28 September 2009 This is to inform you that IBMLink will have a planned outage starting on Friday,

Re: More bad news.

2009-09-29 Thread Sam Siegel
What about a decline that is reaching its asymptotical limit? On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:55 PM, P S zosw...@gmail.com wrote: Oy. Google growing decline: 24K hits; increasing decline: 33K hits. I guess this illustrates the increasing decline in folks' ability to write.

Re: [MVS-OE] Java problem

2009-10-05 Thread Sam Siegel
Looks like it might be ascii. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: What does the Java source look like ? Scott J Ford John, What does the Java source look like ? Scott J Ford From: Chase, John jch...@ussco.com

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-12 Thread Sam Siegel
IBM needs to keep optimizing the c/c++ compiler to support *nix/windows server consolidation onto zLinux. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.cawrote: On 12 Oct 2009 10:37:56 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main Kirk Talman wrote: Why can't Cobol use the C code

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-12 Thread Sam Siegel
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions? IBM needs to keep optimizing the c

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-12 Thread Sam Siegel
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions

Re: Does a DD-Statement waste memory after dealloc?

2009-10-13 Thread Sam Siegel
It can be done from C by building your own text units and issuing the svc99() function call. I'm pretty sure that the svc99() function allows access to pretty much all svc99() features. -sam On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Eric Spencer eric.spen...@neon.com wrote: You can force DYNALLOC to

Re: Back to Work

2009-10-18 Thread Sam Siegel
Congrats and best of luck! I was on the bench a year before moving to the UK. On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Rich Smrcina rsmrc...@wi.rr.com wrote: Eric Bielefeld wrote: I finally am going back to work on Monday. I'll be working at the new IBM call center in Dubuque, Iowa. I'm not sure

Re: Which exit to take ?

2009-11-04 Thread Sam Siegel
What about setting up RACF to log who opened what for output? On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi Would like to record in DB2 database if someone opens, for output, a group of precious datasets.(Product delivery etc.) Which exit

Re: Debugging METAL C

2009-11-05 Thread Sam Siegel
xdc On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: What do you use to debug your METAL C programs? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com

Re: Debugging METAL C

2009-11-05 Thread Sam Siegel
z/XDC. I still like to see exactly what is going on. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: Sam Siegel wrote: xdc c/XDC or z/XDC? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310

Re: Z10 BC DNS Name

2009-11-10 Thread Sam Siegel
Hi, We use, MVS1.xxx.net MVS5.xxx.net MVS7.xxx.net. Where xxx is company name. Keep the DNS name closely related or identical to the system name. It will make your life easier. These defined to the internal network (that is 10.x.x.x ip address) only. They are not accessible from the outside

Re: Beating a dead horse but

2009-11-20 Thread Sam Siegel
This is exactly what I've recently done and it works perfect on 1.09 On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Donald Russell russell@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:34, Tim Hare tim.h...@ssrc.myflorida.com wrote: In a 2008 thread on people using IEFBR14 to do deletes there as this:

Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?

2009-12-03 Thread Sam Siegel
What is your c/c++ question. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I found http://ibmmainframeforum.com/ but the last C question was in June and it hasn’t been answered yet. :-( I found http://www.ibmmainframes.com/ but they group C questions into “Other

Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?

2009-12-03 Thread Sam Siegel
The question of the moment is is there no 'safe' string copy library routine such as strcpy_s? I don't see it in the doc. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:03 AM To: IBM

Re: Is there a good mailing list or forum for mainframe C/C++ specifically?

2009-12-03 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:07:38 -0600, McKown, John wrote: OPINION TIME! The safe versions are not safer than using some of the others which include the length of the destination buffer. Such as strncpy, strncmp, and

Re: EDS mainframe goes elided, crashes RBS cheque system

2009-12-17 Thread Sam Siegel
Connect:Direct (previously known as NDM) can only be loosely related to check processing as it just transmits files back and forth. An IBM Check shop uses CPCS (check processing control system) Vector sort (by Sterling), etc. These are low level programs still shipped in source (at least

Re: EDS mainframe goes elided, crashes RBS cheque system

2009-12-18 Thread Sam Siegel
Sorry about that ... CPCS is indeed (and always has been) an IBM product. VECTOR:sort is by Sterling. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: An IBM Check shop uses CPCS (check processing control system) Vector sort (by Sterling) Since when is it by Sterling?

Re: C++ fstream, iostream and z/OS

2009-12-18 Thread Sam Siegel
The IBM z/OS Standard C++ Library Reference. documents the STL and other industry standard C++ functions. It does not document (to my examination) any IBM specific facilities. Sam On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: 2009/12/18 Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org:

Re: Movin' on Up!

2009-12-22 Thread Sam Siegel
Congrats ... the picture looks nice. Hope you enjoy them. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: We're moving our offices this week. Not the kind of upgrade I'm used to doing. But, still fun... http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/newlocation.htm --

Re: Union Pacific Railroad ditches its mainframe for SOA

2009-12-23 Thread Sam Siegel
Don't forget SOA enabled keyboards and monitors. :) On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote: Shane Ginnane pisze: On Wed, Dec 23rd, 2009 Radoslaw wrote: SOA is a platform neutral protocol. SOA is *not* a protocol. It is a marketing plonk. Nothing behind

Re: argv for z/OS C++ batch

2009-12-26 Thread Sam Siegel
Hi Charles, I'm assuming that if you are going to call via link or attach that you will have an assembler main program that does not have a valid LE environment established. That is to say a traditional assembler program. If this is the case, you should refer to the CEEPIPI documentation

Re: argv for z/OS C++ batch

2009-12-26 Thread Sam Siegel
Charles, The other option you have is to look at METAL C or system C. Or a third party compiler. Regards, Sam On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Trying to figure out this subject. The C/C++ Language Reference on p. 207 says Under z/OS batch . argv[0]

Re: argv for z/OS C++ batch

2009-12-26 Thread Sam Siegel
way? Seems like a pretty obvious need: write a C++ program that starts up with standard z/OS multiple-parameter-pointers-pointed-to-by-R1 linkage. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Saturday

Re: argv for z/OS C++ batch

2009-12-26 Thread Sam Siegel
For caps on/caps off, I was referring to ISPF edit. On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:45:46 +, Sam Siegel wrote: The comment argv[1 to n] is trying to say that the characters in parms 1 ... N are not modified by converter

Re: argv for z/OS C++ batch

2009-12-27 Thread Sam Siegel
that JCL. Neither the TSO or JCL rules apply to program to program calls. Regards, Sam On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:57:25 +, Sam Siegel wrote: For caps on/caps off, I was referring to ISPF edit. That has very little

Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)

2010-01-07 Thread Sam Siegel
There are other business related inaccuracies in the article as well. The article indicates that they process hundreds of millions of Credit Card transactions a day. Having previously worked at a large credit card processor in the US, it can be said with certainty that the S. Korean credit card

Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)

2010-01-07 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: That's the point of (EMV) chip cards. They are inherently more secure. Why are they more secure? INTERAC Canada has been telling us that they are. So far, on their web-site, the proof presented has been: They are more

Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)

2010-01-07 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com wrote: I should say right up front that I am not an expert on Korean banking. Also, I have no idea whether the following remarks apply to BC Card specifically. One commenter in this thread suggested that the number of

Re: Writing ISPF VDEFINE user exits in C

2010-01-11 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Tom Quarendon tom.quaren...@teamwpc.co.ukwrote: If that's the cast you need CEEPIPI. Call it once to initialize the persistent LE environment and then to call your routine with the environment token. You will have to stash away the environment token somewhere,

Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)

2010-01-11 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.netwrote: I disagree. The basic operation of a credit card at the get go was for the customer to be authenticated by comparing the signature on the voucher with the one on the card. If they don't match the vendor refuses

Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)

2010-01-11 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.comwrote: t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes: I'm not sure why this offends you so much. How would it help anything if the cashier checked your signature? Such checking is highly unreliable, and contributes much less to

Re: LOOKING FOR DOC ON NOTE/POINT LOGIC

2010-01-19 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:28 PM, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca wrote: Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to trouble shoot a problem which invokes NOTE/POINT LOGIC. I GOOGLED it but I didn't find what I was looking for. Would anyone know who the vendor is or if there is a site that I

Re: IBM countersues Neon over zPrime accelerator

2010-02-05 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 3:07 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bruno Sugliani Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM

Re: Fastest branch instruction

2010-02-16 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 6:09 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I know it's the one not taken!. But of the B, J, or BR, can they be ordered? I am 99.9% certain that having the branch address in a register is the fastest. But is it significant enough that I should dedicate a

Re: Fastest branch instruction

2010-02-16 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 7:48 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-21 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I'm writing a fairly large MVS batch application in C++. At several points it is necessary to call library type routines that I am writing in assembler. Several of the routines (unfortunately) need to use QSAM macros and

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-21 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Thanks. Sounds a little risky to assume I am the first/only program in the region -- the jobstep program -- but it's an idea. It is at the TCB level. It is not required to be the jobstep program or TCB. I can understand

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Sam Siegel
is going to be faster than getmain/freemain or storage obtain/release functions. Cheers, Sam -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-23 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com wrote: In article 4b8389b7.9030...@gmail.com you wrote: Charles Mills wrote: The fundamental problem I guess is that any solution that keeps a pointer around somewhere in the code is fundamentally not reentrant, unless I

Re: Re-entrancy problem

2010-03-19 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Joe Reichman joereich...@optonline.netwrote: Hi, The following code works (ECB is posted by TCP/IP) except when I catalouge the program RENT=(REUS) Would anybody have any ideas *-*

Re: Need to find alternative to shared storage because of ALLOWUSERKEYCSA parm

2010-03-24 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Diane Goodwin dgood...@amica.com wrote: Hello, Please bear with me. I'm normally a CICS System programmer. We all know the default setting for ALLOWUSERKEYCSA was changed to NO from yes. This causes a problem for our CICS regions (address spaces). We have

Re: Need to find alternative to shared storage because of ALLOWUSERKEYCSA parm

2010-03-24 Thread Sam Siegel
this with the dataspace. I have to be able to just pass the address to the application programs. We have way to many to try to change. Diane -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:40 AM To: IBM

Re: Need to find alternative to shared storage because of ALLOWUSERKEYCSA parm

2010-03-24 Thread Sam Siegel
and switch to AR mode. Probably more changes than you want to make in all of the application code that uses the data. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Mainframe emulator part of a conspira cy • The Register

2010-03-26 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:15 PM, John P. Baker john.ba...@hfdtechs.comwrote: Could you enlighten us on the cost of the Dallas RDP offering? I've heard Dallas RDP is about 300 to 500 USD per month. Includes all IBM software (CICS, DB2, IMS, etc.) current z/OS under z/VM. Maybe 15 to 30 hours

Re: An amusing REXX program - JES2DISK == copies JES output to disk using REXX's SDSF API

2010-03-26 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:51:12 -0500, Elliot, David wrote: By the way, surely UNIX must be approaching legacy status by now. Or is that expression reserved for the despised IBM mainframe? UNIX ages more gracefully

Re: An amusing REXX program - JES2DISK == copies JES output to disk using REXX's SDSF API

2010-03-26 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:05 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 4:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re

Re: An amusing REXX program - JES2DISK == copies JES output to disk using REXX's SDSF API

2010-03-26 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote: Sam, I like z/OS as much as the next guy, but I have to disagree with most of your comparisons. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: Then there are things like checkpoint restart. On unix

Re: An amusing REXX program - JES2DISK == copies JES output to disk using REXX's SDSF API

2010-03-28 Thread Sam Siegel
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net shmuel%2bibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: I agree with much of what you write, but must challenge on item. In 4e2421a41003261420t52bf2254pf53955d4b0ed0...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/26/2010 at 09:20 PM, Sam

Re: Recommendations on download monitor

2010-03-30 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.comwrote: Had a strange thing happen today. Basically Qwest, our broadband supplier, shut off access to the internet because we've supposedly exceeded our monthly download limit of 200GB. Their phone menu system is awful

Re: Recommendations on download monitor

2010-03-30 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.comwrote: Sam Siegel wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: Had a strange thing happen today. Basically Qwest, our broadband supplier, shut off access to the internet

Re: z/OS V1R11 Library unzip problem

2010-03-30 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Rabbe, Luke luke.ra...@countryfinancial.com wrote: I ordered z/OS 1.11 electronically. I downloaded the following 3 times using HTTPS. IBM Online Library: z/OS V1R11 and Software Products DVD Collection, September 2009 Download to your workstation in

ADRNAPF was IEBCOP Y losing APF authori sation in mi ddle of JOB - etc‏

2010-04-20 Thread Sam Siegel
With all of the discussion about APF and loading programs from various types of libraries, I'm hoping someone can provide some clarification for me regarding the ADRNAPF of the load macro. The doc indicates that a module can be loaded from a non-apf library when ADRNAPF is used from an authorized

Re: ADRNAPF was IEBCOP Y losing APF authori sation i n mi ddle of JOB - etc‏

2010-04-21 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 20 April 2010 19:09, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: With all of the discussion about APF and loading programs from various types of libraries, I'm hoping someone can provide some clarification for me regarding

Re: ADRNAPF was IEBCOP Y losing APF authori sation i n mi ddle of JOB - etc?

2010-04-21 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:24:19 +0100 Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: :On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: : On 20 April 2010 19:09, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote

Re: ADRNAPF was IEBCOP Y losing APF authori sation i n mi ddle of JOB - etc?

2010-04-21 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:24:19 +0100 Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: :On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: : On 20 April 2010 19:09, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote

Re: ADRNAPF was IEBCOP Y losing APF authori sation i n mi ddle of JOB - etc?

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Rob Schramm rob.schr...@siriuscom.comwrote: Did you retain any authorization when doing the SYNCH (such as, having your program running in supervisor state or a system key)? If so, you are likely to still have some major system integrity holes. Mixing

Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
Hi All, Switching subject lines to something more appropriate. I'm trying to write some authorized code that has a requirement to invoke unauthorized user exits. I'd like to be able to do the following. 1) Provide an anchor word so that the user exit can allocate and retain memory from call to

Re: ADRNAPF was IEBCOP Y losing APF authori sation i n mi ddle of JOB - etc?

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.comwrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:29:51 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: As long as all work areas used by the authorized program are in system key there should not be any exposure by using SYNCH. The code also needs to be in

Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Calling

Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:07:52 +0100 Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: :I'm trying to write some authorized code that has a requirement to invoke :unauthorized user exits. Why? What is the business case? :I'd

Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.comwrote: I'm trying to write some authorized code that has a requirement to invoke unauthorized user exits. Use SYNCH. Assume all data received from the exit is untrusted and insure the caller verifies it. Caller can save

Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:46:27 +0100 Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: :On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.comwrote: : I'm trying to write some authorized code that has

Re: ADRNAPF was IEBCOP Y losing APF authori sation i n mi ddle of JOB - etc?

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:36:50 +0100, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:29:51 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote

Re: ADRNAPF was IEBCOP Y losing APF authori sation i n mi ddle of JOB - etc?

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:28:32 -0400, Rob Schramm rob.schr...@siriuscom.com wrote: Did you retain any authorization when doing the SYNCH (such as, having your program running in supervisor state or a system key)? If

Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:07:52 +0100, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: I'm trying to write some authorized code that has a requirement to invoke unauthorized user exits. First, why do they have to be unauthorized? Your

Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Chris Craddock crashlu...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:07:52 +0100, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote

Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-23 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: By definition, the subject seems to me to be an oxymoron. Yes ... I agree that the subject lines is not properly worded and is technically incorrect ... I'm pretty sure that the intent was understood. :) An authorized

Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-23 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 22 April 2010 14:19, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote: The requirements exists because I'm trying to write something that will be Ziip enabled and leased as a product. Prior to passing the buffer to a work queue

Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-23 Thread Sam Siegel
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: 23 April 2010 14:42 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com

Re: Calling unauthorized code from an authorized address space

2010-04-23 Thread Sam Siegel
snip If you keep the privileged part completely separate from the non-privileged part then you will still have quite a lot of work to do, but you are at least in with a shot of making it work out. Every other scheme that you (or anyone else) can come up with will fail. I promise. I see

Re: recommended way to send large files from Z/os to WIN and backward

2010-05-03 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote: forget about the xmit problem. we are trying to use an ftp client on z/os using a job to get datasets larger than 4 GB from a windows server after we succesfully send the Datasets to the windows FTP server . when

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-06 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: W dniu 2010-05-06 19:10, McKown, John pisze: http://www.daniweb.com/news/story281427.html Friend of the author declared with all seriousness that every business, large and small, is now almost totally Windows based,

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-07 Thread Sam Siegel
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In t2s4e2421a41005061330ic150eda4wca4225caff5d...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/06/2010   at 09:30 PM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net said: And when talking to Unix/Windows folks, explaining (over and over

Re: Pause Elements

2010-05-07 Thread Sam Siegel
I did a little in a problem state program. What are you looking for? On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Blaicher, Chris chris_blaic...@bmc.com wrote: Has anyone done much with PAUSE ELEMENTS and Pause Element Tokens? If so, please contact me directly. chris_blaic...@bmc.com Thanks in

Re: Pause Elements

2010-05-07 Thread Sam Siegel
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 1:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Pause Elements I did a little in a problem state program. What are you looking for? On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Blaicher, Chris chris_blaic...@bmc.com wrote

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-09 Thread Sam Siegel
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Apparently abhorrence of liberty is the modal attitude of z/OS programmers. Why do you work on a platform you hate so much? Every one has some restriction that users of same don't like! Find another field and stop

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-10 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu wrote: On 6 May 2010 13:25:37 -0700, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) wrote: Version for IT interlocutors: Mainframe? z/OS? Is it a clone of AIX? Linux? C'mon! Since it's not Windows, it must be any non-Windows

Re: Amazing article.

2010-05-10 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:57 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: Howard Brazee pisze: On 6 May 2010 13:25:37 -0700, r.skoru...@snip.it.pl (R.S.) wrote: Version for IT interlocutors: Mainframe? z/OS? Is it a clone of AIX? Linux? C'mon! Since it's not Windows, it must be any

Re: Migrating from z/OS V1.4 to z/OS V1.11

2010-05-11 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Timothy Sipples wrote: Of course, I read those on-screen TCs very carefully and reviewed them with a lawyer I can't remember what software did this, but it requires you to SCROLL down the whole

Re: Getting BIND/LINK date out of load module members

2010-05-20 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:57 PM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com wrote: Pedantic.  ...  GMT would be better ... Since you're being pedantic, wouldn't UTC be better?  ;-) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:16:27 -0500 From: paulgboul...@aim.com Subject: Re: Getting BIND/LINK date out of load module

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Sam Siegel
snip Furthermore, management is quick to point out that the IT folks are not responsive to the rapid change of business needs, yet management will not fund training in new or updated technologies for their staff (nor even for conceptual updates for themselves). While I'm at it, another

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: -snip-- In serious line of business applications with, competing requirements from many internal departments, it is often that IT is the central and only

Re: UAT Best Practices

2010-06-15 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:34 AM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. The operative word here is best practices.  Something that will survive an audit. To pass an audit (internal and/or external) without qualification, it is best to have a completely separate environment (HLQ,

Re: Developers' Use of Prod Data For Testing

2010-06-15 Thread Sam Siegel
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:28 AM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: There are over 5000 indexes to Tables in my clients production DB2 system which is a relatively small by industry standards. But I must admit, I can't imagine how, in a mainframe environment, sensitive data could be

Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Sam Siegel
snip They taught all the obscure utilities like IEBCOMPR and IEBDG. Outside of that set of courses, I've never used either in the Real World, ever. Quoted below is the funniest part of the article. *This document is the result of Infostructure Associates-sponsored research. Infostructure

Re: Mainframe books

2010-08-02 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Andrew Rowley and...@blackhillsoftware.comwrote: Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: I suspect he is referring to MVS Extended Architecture Overview I concur. Nothing named Indroduction or Overview thereafter was at the same level. I always wished this book

Re: DATAPROPAGATOR error

2010-08-04 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Wang Jianyun wjywcy2...@yahoo.com.cnwrote: Hi We use DATAPROPAGATOR tool to download data from mainframe but often get error. The error message is in the attached file. Please could somebody who are familiar with DATAPROPAGATOR help on this. Thanks. snip

Re: Cobol calling C function

2010-09-16 Thread Sam Siegel
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: START OF TS04A CEE3207S The system detected a data exception ( zMan: START OF TS04A CEE3207S The system detected a data exception (System Completion Code=0C7). From compile unit THRALLC at entry point

Re: Cobol calling C function

2010-09-16 Thread Sam Siegel
From: Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 2:38:31 PM Subject: Re: Cobol calling C function On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: START OF TS04A CEE3207S The system detected a data exception ( zMan

Re: Cobol calling C function

2010-09-16 Thread Sam Siegel
From: Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 3:33:49 PM Subject: Re: Cobol calling C function On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Good point, but that compiled C module

Re: Cobol calling C function

2010-09-17 Thread Sam Siegel
for the help. You're welcome. Cheers, Sam Regards, Scott J Ford From: Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 4:13:19 PM Subject: Re: Cobol calling C function On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Scott Ford

Re: New fixes and message for MFNetDisk's users

2010-09-20 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@ssf.sas.comwrote: It seems that STARTIO isn't documented anywhere. Is it available from IBM at all, like with an NDA or something like that? Is it perhaps documented somewhere in earlier releases? Lindy -Original

Re: New fixes and message for MFNetDisk's users

2010-09-20 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: I'm very sorry to hear about your father. My prayers are with you. My prayers are with you also. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of shai hess

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