In a message dated 5/17/2007 2:08:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
the number is
meaningless until you know what it is measuring, even if it is
accurate. Of course, there's no reason to believe that it's accurate.
See the 16 MAY 2007 Dilbert for additional info on
In my forty years of experience dealing with IBM and its customer services
organization, I have found IBM to be the most customer-centric vendor out
there. So it begs the question that since Vista is about to become the PC
standard, why has IBM seemed to take such a cavalier attitude about getting
On Fri, 18 May 2007 07:59:08 -0500, Mark Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my forty years of experience dealing with IBM and its customer services
organization, I have found IBM to be the most customer-centric vendor out
there. So it begs the question that since Vista is about to become the PC
In response to SCR, I am so glad to discover that I am not alone in my
'unappreciation' of the product. I am installing 1.7 via ServerPac. I
was able to download the manuals and extract them. I had some extra
work to do, but, I am using the PDF versions and am quite happy just
'pointing
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Yuhas
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:05 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped
We use Quick-Ref which has the Data Areas as well. I asked if Quick-Ref
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/16/2007
at 06:56 AM, Mark Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
If we can believe Bill Gates last pronouncement that Microsoft has
already sold more than 40 million copies of Vista,
AND if sold means what you think it does. With m$ it rarely does.
Buy a machine from a
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
05/15/2007
at 10:28 PM, Greg Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I think I've still got my Just say NO to OCO T-shirt that I bought
at a NaSTEC.
You can have mine when they pry it out of my cold dead fingers ;-)
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO
In
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on 05/15/2007
at 07:16 AM, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The data areas books have forever been generated automatically from
macros;
I don't recall when the change occurred, but the OS/360 System Control
Blocks was not automatically generated. FWIW, automatic
Of course, reading the softcopy manuals has become very difficult as well.
Library Reader is no longer available (unless, of course you happen to have
a very old library distribution - probably prior to 2001 or 2002 - laying
around). Softcopy Reader doesn't work properly, or at all, under
Mark Baron wrote:
Of course, reading the softcopy manuals has become very difficult as well.
Library Reader is no longer available (unless, of course you happen to have
a very old library distribution - probably prior to 2001 or 2002 - laying
around).
AFAIK it is still available, but hidden
On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:15:06 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Baron wrote:
Of course, reading the softcopy manuals has become very difficult as well.
Library Reader is no longer available (unless, of course you happen to have
a very old library distribution - probably prior to 2001 or
Mark Baron wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:15:06 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Baron wrote:
Of course, reading the softcopy manuals has become very difficult as well.
Library Reader is no longer available (unless, of course you happen to have
a very old library distribution -
Mark Baron wrote:
Of course, reading the softcopy manuals has become very difficult as well.
Library Reader is no longer available (unless, of course you happen to have
a very old library distribution - probably prior to 2001 or 2002 - laying
around). Softcopy Reader doesn't work properly, or
On Wed, 16 May 2007 08:41:41 -0500, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Baron wrote:
Of course, reading the softcopy manuals has become very difficult as well.
Library Reader is no longer available (unless, of course you happen to have
a very old library distribution - probably prior to
On 5/16/2007 7:56 AM, Mark Baron wrote:
Of course, reading the softcopy manuals has become very difficult as well.
There's always reading them on the web, assuming you have an Internet
connection.
Walt
--
For
Thompson, Steve wrote:
Folks:
Just in case some of you weren't around in the mid-80s doing development
and the like, IBM decided to go OCO (we will drop the cause of this
decision) and the CEO (Ackers - if I remember the spelling of his name)
promised that nothing would go OCO until it had
On Tue, 15 May 2007 22:28:49 +1000, Greg Price
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thompson, Steve wrote:
Folks:
Just in case some of you weren't around in the mid-80s doing development
and the like, IBM decided to go OCO (we will drop the cause of this
decision) and the CEO (Ackers - if I remember
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 08:59 -0500, Mark H. Young wrote:
Did they ever sell similar T-shirts at any SHARE conferences?
There were buttons, of course. Search Barry Merrill's collection:
http://www.mxg.com/thebuttonman/search.asp
for OCO.
--
David Andrews
A. Duda and Sons, Inc.
[EMAIL
The IBM and z/OS strategy for disseminating programming information is
undergoing a significant amount of change. Part of this change will be the
withdrawal of the Data Areas publications in favor of web delivery of the
detailed data areas information based off of the z/OS Library Center
website.
In a message dated 5/15/2007 2:41:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
unchanged. To improve the accuracy of the documentation, processes are
being enhanced to automatically create the information when a mapping is
changed.
Will there be dual pathing for DOC APARS
On May 15, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Ed Finnell wrote:
In a message dated 5/15/2007 8:59:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did they ever sell similar T-shirts at any SHARE conferences?
What year and city.if anyone remembers?
Ed,
I seem to remember in the 1988 or 1989
At 07:16 -0400 on 05/15/2007, Peter Relson wrote about Re: Data Areas
Manuals to be dropped:
The strategic direction is to remove the data area books (JES2 and JES3
data areas have already been deleted), and the data areas will be
generated automatically from the code.
IOW: Assemble
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Thompson, Steve
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:06 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped
/snip/
The following is their [IBM's] official policy and
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is 'OCO' ?
Thanks
there were several OCO-wars threads/discussion on vmshare. it was
somewhat more of an issue in vm culture ...
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