AW: Single Pack System Process

2012-06-11 Thread Uwe Oswald
Hi Peter,

for building a one pack system you need a very deep understanding in various 
zos areas (like BCP, RACF, JES, Compile, aso.). Of course what is needed in 
such a system is dependent on what you want what your system should do when it 
gets IPL'ed. We have a software that maintain, build and clone z/OS systems and 
you can also build one pack systems from scratch. If you need further help than 
send me a note, its hardly to describe here because the processes are somehow 
complicated for building such a system.

Thx.

Cheers from Germany
Uwe

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Hi All,

I am here to understand the process followed to create single pack system apart 
from Mark Zelden's or John's or planetMVS method of creating single pack 
system. Could anyone be kind enough to describe the way of creating single Pack 
system ?

Objective is just to understand the various different method adopted across 
different shops. I know and Heard that IBM main has a great number of Mainframe 
system programmers with 1000 thousand years of experiences together.

Peter

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Re: Single Pack System Process

2012-06-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:13:45 +0530, mf db dbajava...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All,

I am here to understand the process followed to create single pack system
apart from Mark Zelden's or John's or planetMVS method of creating single
pack system. Could anyone be kind enough to describe the way of creating
single Pack system ?

Objective is just to understand the various different method adopted across
different shops. I know and Heard that IBM main has a great number of
Mainframe system programmers with 1000 thousand years of experiences
together.

Peter


It's been a very long time since I looked at any one else's jobs, but if you 
look
at the source (job stream) of my samples near the top, there is a section
that describes all the various steps and what they do.  I'm sure the other 
methods are similar (even though there might be multiple jobs).  

Mark
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Single Pack System Process

2012-06-10 Thread mf db
Hi All,

I am here to understand the process followed to create single pack system
apart from Mark Zelden's or John's or planetMVS method of creating single
pack system. Could anyone be kind enough to describe the way of creating
single Pack system ?

Objective is just to understand the various different method adopted across
different shops. I know and Heard that IBM main has a great number of
Mainframe system programmers with 1000 thousand years of experiences
together.

Peter

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Re: Single Pack System Process

2012-06-10 Thread Skip Robinson
I'll jump in with my standard if unconventional response. IPLing a systems 
requires two categories of resources: (1) a sysres volume and (2) 
everything else. 

A shop typically has many available sysres volumes. 

-- SMPE target zone sysres
-- Backup copy of that volume
-- Some running version of that volume
-- Backup copy of that volume
-- Etc.

Any of these could be pointed to for an emergency IPL or even 
standalone-restored as necessary to satisfy (1). What you really need to 
provide is a usable facsimile of (2), which contains

-- SPOOL
-- Security database
-- Network definitions
-- Etc.

The objective is not to IPL a full-blown system, just one to which you can 
logon and utilize ISPF, SDSF or equivalent, etc. In other words, you need 
to get onto an emergency system with enough function and authority to fix 
whatever is wrong with your production system. Getting a workable of 
version of (2) is not trivial, but it narrows the scope of what's 
required. It should include parameter libraries simple enough to get a 
system running without assuming the latest bells and whistles. KISS. 

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
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Hi All,

I am here to understand the process followed to create single pack system
apart from Mark Zelden's or John's or planetMVS method of creating single
pack system. Could anyone be kind enough to describe the way of creating
single Pack system ?

Objective is just to understand the various different method adopted 
across
different shops. I know and Heard that IBM main has a great number of
Mainframe system programmers with 1000 thousand years of experiences
together.

Peter


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