Re: SMS Data Class attribute Extended

2020-07-01 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Are saying that I can't find that kind of information from the SMF Type 14/15 records? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 7:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS Data Class attribute Extended [External

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM R.S. wrote: > And what? > I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email. > Will they track the IP from Joh Doe sent the message? > Using TOR (The Onion Router), it would be very difficult to get to your specific IP address. > IBM is aware

Re: SMS Data Class attribute Extended

2020-07-01 Thread R.S.
W dniu 30.06.2020 o 21:53, PINION, RICHARD W. pisze: We are attempting, on our QA LPAR, to use the SMS DC attributes, Data Set Name Type . . . . . : EXTENDED If Extended . . . . . . . . : PREFERRED Extended Addressability . . : YES for all of our sequential data sets. Of several

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread R.S.
And what? I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email. Will they track the IP from Joh Doe sent the message? IBM is aware of illegal users of Hercules + some current OS. They also know a lot of Hercules users are IBMers. No, it is nothing pro and against Hercules,

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread David Crayford
On 2020-07-01 8:26 PM, John McKown wrote: And what? I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email. Will they track the IP from Joh Doe sent the message? Using TOR (The Onion Router), it would be very difficult to get to your specific IP address. haha! How many IBMMAIN

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread David Crayford
Didn't IBM nobble Hercules with recent versions of z/OS which had propriety enablement? Basically kills it! On 2020-07-01 7:32 PM, R.S. wrote: And what? I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email. Will they track the IP from Joh Doe sent the message? IBM is aware of

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread R.S.
W dniu 01.07.2020 o 14:53, David Crayford pisze: On 2020-07-01 8:26 PM, John McKown wrote: And what? I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email. Will they track the IP from Joh Doe sent the message? Using TOR (The Onion Router), it would be very difficult to get to

Re: SMS Data Class attribute Extended

2020-07-01 Thread R.S.
My fault, I forgot about SMF and (mis)understood you want to examine datasets itself. Now I see, you wrote about SMF. To busy... -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 01.07.2020 o 14:19, PINION, RICHARD W. pisze: Are saying that I can't find that kind of information from the SMF Type

Re: TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2

2020-07-01 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2020-07-01 11:47, Seymour J Metz wrote: Can anybody suggest goof TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2? On Linux I use KDE and would prefer something written for QT or at least X11. For OS/2 I'd prefer a PM application. In both cases I'd like the ability to configure both the primary and

Re: TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2

2020-07-01 Thread Karl S Huf
NTAC:3NS-20 Back when we (MF group at my employer) still ran OS/2 we ran IBM's PCOM and quite liked it. After a while got tired of our desktop group referring any OS/2 questions they received to me and finally transitioned over to Windows (and Reflections nee Attachmate). -Original

Re: AT-TLS ? Very Basic Questions

2020-07-01 Thread Charles Mills
Tom, I believe you have nailed it exactly. Those are the two main drivers IMHO. In addition, there is a *huge* problem (in general, not Z specifically) of poorly-written programmatic "users" of TLS libraries. If you write a General Ledger program and the ledgers don't cross-foot, the CFO tells

Re: TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2

2020-07-01 Thread Grant Taylor
On 7/1/20 9:47 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: Can anybody suggest goof TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2? I use x3270 (or it's text based c3270 alternative) on Linux and PCOM on OS/2 / ArcaOS for my P/390-E. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: Sort Jcl to build a Update table control card

2020-07-01 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> Could some let me know how this can be done using SORT (DFSORT) jcl. Ron, Your shop has other competitive product to DFSORT and yet you request the solution for DFSORT. The control cards may run fine with both products, but the least you can do is mention the right product. Moreover this is

Re: AT-TLS ? Very Basic Questions

2020-07-01 Thread Charles Mills
I think programs will be able to; IBM just does not intend to spend to maintain encryption in two places: AT-TLS *and* all of the listed applications. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Wawiorko Sent:

Re: TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2

2020-07-01 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Oh - and I seem to remember testing Tom Brennan's Vista3270 under wine - but that was a LONG time ago and pre the SSL support release. Jerry Whitteridge Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect GTS - Safeway Account 602 527 4871 Mobile jerry.whitteri...@ibm.com IBM Services IBM Mainframe

Sort Jcl to build a Update table control card

2020-07-01 Thread Ron Thomas
Hello We have input file with around 6500 rows as below and would need to build a control card to update the DB US1234567897272 -(1st 2 bytes countrycode,next 9 bytes item number ,next 4 bytes PLU nbr) I need to generate a SQL UPDATE code generator like below. ("?" need to be pulled from the

TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2

2020-07-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
Can anybody suggest goof TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2? On Linux I use KDE and would prefer something written for QT or at least X11. For OS/2 I'd prefer a PM application. In both cases I'd like the ability to configure both the primary and secondary screen size. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: AT-TLS ? Very Basic Questions

2020-07-01 Thread Mike Wawiorko
Some programs will soon no longer be able to do their own TLS encryption. https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/0/877/ENUSZP19-0410/index.html_locale=en#sodx Statements of direction Removal of native TLS/SSL support from TN3270E Telnet server, FTP server, and

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread Joe Monk
"And what?" How about ... and IBM builds in things to the next release of z/os that make it completely impossible for it to run on Hercules? Or z/VM? or z/VSE? Joe On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM R.S. wrote: > And what? > I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email. >

Re: TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2

2020-07-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 15:47:53 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Can anybody suggest goof TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2? > >On Linux I use KDE and would prefer something written for QT or at least X11. >For OS/2 I'd prefer a PM application. In both cases I'd like the ability to >configure both

Re: TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2

2020-07-01 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Not sure I have anything for OS/2 but on my Linux systems I use x3270. You can configure the screen sizes as well as the keyboard layout to suit what you need and it all runs fine under KDE Jerry Whitteridge Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect GTS - Safeway Account 602 527 4871 Mobile

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-01 Thread zMan
/me wonders how many script kiddies have gotten excited to learn there's apparently a language specifically for creating role-playing games... On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:07 AM Timothy Sipples wrote: > Frank Swarbrick asked: > >Is Pascal also still supported/used? > > IBM VS Pascal (5668-767) is

IPSEC Configuration and Performance

2020-07-01 Thread Crawford, Robert C.
We're considering using IPSEC to secure traffic between an internal router and a CICS application. Can anyone on this list give us any hints, tips or gotchas they may have from doing something similar themselves. Thanks in advance. Robert Crawford Mainframe Management United Services

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Hercules isn't nobbled. I know a bloke who knows a bloke who runs Hercules and zOS 2.3. This bloke told me that the other bloke did ADRDSSU volume dumps and a restore at the other end. On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 03:47 Tom Brennan wrote: > It wasn't me! I keep forgetting to lock up my computer when I

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 14:07:08 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: > >... And obviously IBM markets and supports ..., REXX, ... > As long as "support" isn't construed to imply ANSI conformance. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: TN3270 clients for Linux and OS/2

2020-07-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
I used to use a 3180 with a customized LOGMODE: 43x80 primary, 27x132 secondary. Not as nice as having a 3290, but certainly better than a vanilla model 5. I'm not sure how well screen snapshot as HTML would work; does it pick up allo of the field and character attributes? -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: AT-TLS ? Very Basic Questions

2020-07-01 Thread Tom Brennan
Thanks! This conversation really helped me understand. And Mike just pointed out that not only are things headed to AT-TLS, but it may be the ONLY way to encrypt in the near future. On 7/1/2020 9:21 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Tom, I believe you have nailed it exactly. Those are the two main

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread Tom Brennan
It wasn't me! I keep forgetting to lock up my computer when I leave my desk. http://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/toms_computer.png On 7/1/2020 5:53 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 2020-07-01 8:26 PM, John McKown wrote: And what? I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
Comfort isn't the only issue. When they change the law such that the code no longer complies, then you have to bite the bullet and update it? Lost the source code? There could be legal consequences. YMMV. There used to be an operating system with no support for running from an object deck; the

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-01 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Thanks Tim. I can't imagine being comfortable writing new code, at least, for a compiler that has not been updated in 35 years, but maybe that's just me.  Now that we know what languages are still supported, I am still curious if anyone out there is actually still using them, and if so, why.

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
Frank Swarbrick asked: >Is Pascal also still supported/used? IBM VS Pascal (5668-767) is still IBM marketed and supported: https://www.ibm.com/support/lifecycle/#/details?q45=M618799U16404L24 The New Stanford Pascal Compiler is also available: https://github.com/StanfordPascal/Pascal

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread Brian Westerman
No, it works with z/OS 2.4, well, there is a small issue, but it's being resolved. On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:01:41 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >Didn't IBM nobble Hercules with recent versions of z/OS which had >propriety enablement? Basically kills it! > >On 2020-07-01 7:32 PM, R.S. wrote: >> And

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
Do you mean only that IBM has changed the underlying hardware used to implement what they called Machine Interface (MI) on the S/38, or do you mean that they have changed the MI itself? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: IPSEC Configuration and Performance

2020-07-01 Thread Grant Taylor
On 7/1/20 1:49 PM, Crawford, Robert C. wrote: We're considering using IPSEC to secure traffic between an internal router and a CICS application. Can anyone on this list give us any hints, tips or gotchas they may have from doing something similar themselves. I can't help. But I'd love to

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-01 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 1 Jul 2020 14:43:51 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: >Comfort isn't the only issue. When they change the law such that the code no >longer complies, then you have to bite the bullet and update it? Lost the >source code? There could be legal

Re: z/OS use of "legacy" programming languages

2020-07-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 21:43:42 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Comfort isn't the only issue. When they change the law such that the code no >longer complies, then you have to bite the bullet and update it? Lost the >source code? There could be legal consequences. YMMV. > For such reasons,

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread Brian Westerman
Maybe you are forgetting the whole backwards compatibility thing. Do you really think IBM is worried about a bunch of hobbyists writing code or reliving their youth on mainframes because they have some "lost" revenue in that area? You can join developerworks and license z/PDT, which is what

Re: Migrate z/OS DASD volumes from Mainframe to Hercules Environment

2020-07-01 Thread Brian Westerman
I forgot to mention that there are directions for copying DASD on the CBTtape file 659. Brian On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 05:31:27 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Hercules isn't nobbled. I know a bloke who knows a bloke who runs Hercules >and zOS 2.3. This bloke told me that the other bloke did

Re: Sort Jcl to build a Update table control card

2020-07-01 Thread Ron Thomas
ok thanks a lot Kolusu.fyi , we are using DFSORT and not Syncsort . Regards Ron T -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Sort Jcl to build a Update table control card

2020-07-01 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>fyi , we are using DFSORT and not Syncsort . Well that is good news. On that note then here is the solution. //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SORTIN DD * US1234567897272 //SORTOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * OPTION COPY OUTFIL BUILD=(C'UPDATE