Re: Install z/OS from DVD

[Timothy Sipples]

John mentioned the Customized Offerings Driver (COD), which is the
preferred method to start from DVD in order to install and start z/OS.

For the record, there are a couple other technically viable ways to get the
job done, assuming you have an IPLable z/OS volume (or the Customized
Offerings Driver itself) on hand:

1. You could IPL licensed z/VM from its DVD, use z/VM DDR to restore the
ECKD z/OS volume(s) (after installing z/VM perhaps), then IPL z/OS. Backup
and Restore Manager for z/VM can also restore ECKD volumes.

2. You could IPL Linux from DVD, use Linux to restore the ECKD z/OS volume
(s), then IPL z/OS. The Linux kernel added "raw-track access mode" circa
2013 that provides the necessary ECKD volume support for these purposes.
(Maybe this was the feature Mark Post was referring to?)

Of course, you could physically (re)attach your storage device containing
your IPLable z/OS volume. Ordinarily your storage device is physically
large and not designed to move from place to place every day, but I notice
that Visara markets FICON-attached ECKD storage in a 2U rack mount size:
their Vi-8810L model. A 2U sized storage unit is fairly practical to wheel
around your data center -- or even between data centers if you ship it in a
well padded case. True, it's still physically larger and heavier than a
DVD. According to the specification sheet, the Visara Vi-8810L supports
FICON 4, 8, and 16 Gb/s.


Timothy Sipples
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Multi-Geography
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Re: Install z/OS from DVD

[Brian Westerman]

Most new site people order the COD.

You can install from USB (or DVD on the older HMCs that still have them), but 
you still have to eventually IPL z/OS once you load the volumes.  The ADCD 
system is shipped on DVD's for just that purpose as is the academic z/os image. 
 The USB based method is actually just a bunch of .ISO images.

The down side is that it VERY slow.  I mean watching paint dry or watching 
window glass melt kind of slow.

It's actually faster to use the DVD (or the COD tape) to bring up the stand 
alone dfdss and use real carts.

I also think that someone from Israel had a product a few years back that 
allowed you to mount network dasd and you could access it from an image or even 
from the HMC, but I can't remember the name of the product or if it "actually" 
did that. 

Brian

On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 10:46:41 -0500, John Eells  wrote:

>Beesley, Paul wrote:
>> We are setting up a z/Next mainframe on a greenfield site and want to be 
>> able to install z/OS from a DVD.
>> Back in 2016, Mark Post said..
>> “Coming soon will be the ability to IPL _and_ install directly from the HMC 
>> DVD drive.  It'll be a slow as !@$$ but it won't require an installation 
>> server somewhere.  You'll still need to connect _into_ the system over the 
>> network to complete the install (via SSH or VNC) of course.  Even that could 
>> be avoided if you set up a custom DVD that points to an autoinst.xml file on 
>> the DVD itself and use VNC as the installation method.  Completely 
>> unattended install without a net. :)”
>>
>> Has ‘soon’ arrived yet? Or are we still looking at using a Customised 
>> Offering Driver?
>
>
>You will need to use the COD.
>
>Although Linux and z/VM can be IPLed from DVD, z/OS must IPL from
>attached (ECKD) DASD.  It does not now and will likely not any time soon
>support IPLed from anywhere in the HMC file system, including  DVD.
>
>Based on that, the DVD-based installation process involves the
>Customized Offerings Driver (which we affectionately call the COD).
>Standalone DFSMSdss, which can be IPLed from the HMC's DVD drive, was
>changed a while back to support restoring disk volumes from DVD files.
>The COD z/OS system is restored using DFSMSdss and then IPLed.  (You can
>optionally use standalone ICKDSF to verify target volume labels and INIT
>the volumes before restoring them, but we taught DFSMSdss to be a bit
>smarter a while back so this is no longer a required step.)
>
>The restores run reasonably quickly, though I don't have current
>numbers.  When we first planned this support we thought it would take a
>lot longer than it actually does, because we--well, I (blush)--forgot
>that we dumped the COD systems with the COMPRESS keyword, which reduces
>the HMC-to-DASD data transfer time significantly.  If I recall
>correctly, the entire process from DFSMSdss IPL to z/OS IPL only takes a
>few hours.
>
>In turn, the COD z/OS system supports installing the z/OS you actually
>want from direct download to z/OS (if you have connectivity at the site)
>or by transferring files from a workstation to the z/OS UNIX file
>system, whether they were downloaded or are also on DVD.  You can
>install a new copy of z/OS using ServerPac (if you are sane) or CBPDO
>(if you aren't); the COD supports both.
>
>It might also be possible to use the FTP-based IPL available on z14 and
>later HMCs for DFSMSdss and FTP file access for the restores, with the
>files on your workstation (set up as an FTP server), which I am told
>should work, but which we have not explicitly tested.  That might or
>might not be faster than restoring from DVD, depending on where the
>bottleneck is in the effective data transfer rate.  Speaking for myself,
>though, restores from DVD would certainly have been done for quite a
>while while I was still fiddling with the FTP configuration and physical
>connections for this IPL path, but YMMV.
>
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Re: Install z/OS from DVD

[Edward MacNEIL]

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Subject: Re: Install z/OS from DVD

I may have a solution, but. it may be the same as a customized offering. 
Anyone interested can contact me off list.
Doug

Doug Fuerst
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>
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>Back in 2016, Mark Post said..
>“Coming soon will be the ability to IPL _and_ install directly from the 
>HMC DVD drive. It'll be a slow as !@$$ but it won't require an 
>installation server somewhere. You'll still need to connect _into_ the 
>system over the network to complete the install (via SSH or VNC) of 
>course. Even that could be avoided if you set up a custom DVD that 
>points to an autoinst.xml file on the DVD itself and use VNC as the 
>installation method. Completely unattended install without a net. :)”
>
>Has ‘soon’ arrived yet? Or are we still looking at using a Customised 
>Offering Driver?
>
>Regards and thanks
>Paul
>
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Re: Install z/OS from DVD

[Chris Hoelscher]

COD?? Sounds  fishy to me (sorry)

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Beesley, Paul wrote:
> We are setting up a z/Next mainframe on a greenfield site and want to be able 
> to install z/OS from a DVD.
> Back in 2016, Mark Post said..
> “Coming soon will be the ability to IPL _and_ install directly from the HMC 
> DVD drive.  It'll be a slow as !@$$ but it won't require an installation 
> server somewhere.  You'll still need to connect _into_ the system over the 
> network to complete the install (via SSH or VNC) of course.  Even that could 
> be avoided if you set up a custom DVD that points to an autoinst.xml file on 
> the DVD itself and use VNC as the installation method.  Completely unattended 
> install without a net. :)”
>
> Has ‘soon’ arrived yet? Or are we still looking at using a Customised 
> Offering Driver?


You will need to use the COD.

Although Linux and z/VM can be IPLed from DVD, z/OS must IPL from attached 
(ECKD) DASD.  It does not now and will likely not any time soon support IPLed 
from anywhere in the HMC file system, including  DVD.

Based on that, the DVD-based installation process involves the Customized 
Offerings Driver (which we affectionately call the COD). 
Standalone DFSMSdss, which can be IPLed from the HMC's DVD drive, was changed a 
while back to support restoring disk volumes from DVD files. 
The COD z/OS system is restored using DFSMSdss and then IPLed.  (You can 
optionally use standalone ICKDSF to verify target volume labels and INIT the 
volumes before restoring them, but we taught DFSMSdss to be a bit smarter a 
while back so this is no longer a required step.)

The restores run reasonably quickly, though I don't have current numbers.  When 
we first planned this support we thought it would take a lot longer than it 
actually does, because we--well, I (blush)--forgot that we dumped the COD 
systems with the COMPRESS keyword, which reduces the HMC-to-DASD data transfer 
time significantly.  If I recall correctly, the entire process from DFSMSdss 
IPL to z/OS IPL only takes a few hours.

In turn, the COD z/OS system supports installing the z/OS you actually want 
from direct download to z/OS (if you have connectivity at the site) or by 
transferring files from a workstation to the z/OS UNIX file system, whether 
they were downloaded or are also on DVD.  You can install a new copy of z/OS 
using ServerPac (if you are sane) or CBPDO (if you aren't); the COD supports 
both.

It might also be possible to use the FTP-based IPL available on z14 and later 
HMCs for DFSMSdss and FTP file access for the restores, with the files on your 
workstation (set up as an FTP server), which I am told should work, but which 
we have not explicitly tested.  That might or might not be faster than 
restoring from DVD, depending on where the bottleneck is in the effective data 
transfer rate.  Speaking for myself, though, restores from DVD would certainly 
have been done for quite a while while I was still fiddling with the FTP 
configuration and physical connections for this IPL path, but YMMV.

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Re: Install z/OS from DVD

[John Eells]

Beesley, Paul wrote:

We are setting up a z/Next mainframe on a greenfield site and want to be able 
to install z/OS from a DVD.
Back in 2016, Mark Post said..
“Coming soon will be the ability to IPL _and_ install directly from the HMC DVD 
drive.  It'll be a slow as !@$$ but it won't require an installation server 
somewhere.  You'll still need to connect _into_ the system over the network to 
complete the install (via SSH or VNC) of course.  Even that could be avoided if 
you set up a custom DVD that points to an autoinst.xml file on the DVD itself 
and use VNC as the installation method.  Completely unattended install without 
a net. :)”

Has ‘soon’ arrived yet? Or are we still looking at using a Customised Offering 
Driver?



You will need to use the COD.

Although Linux and z/VM can be IPLed from DVD, z/OS must IPL from 
attached (ECKD) DASD.  It does not now and will likely not any time soon 
support IPLed from anywhere in the HMC file system, including  DVD.


Based on that, the DVD-based installation process involves the 
Customized Offerings Driver (which we affectionately call the COD). 
Standalone DFSMSdss, which can be IPLed from the HMC's DVD drive, was 
changed a while back to support restoring disk volumes from DVD files. 
The COD z/OS system is restored using DFSMSdss and then IPLed.  (You can 
optionally use standalone ICKDSF to verify target volume labels and INIT 
the volumes before restoring them, but we taught DFSMSdss to be a bit 
smarter a while back so this is no longer a required step.)


The restores run reasonably quickly, though I don't have current 
numbers.  When we first planned this support we thought it would take a 
lot longer than it actually does, because we--well, I (blush)--forgot 
that we dumped the COD systems with the COMPRESS keyword, which reduces 
the HMC-to-DASD data transfer time significantly.  If I recall 
correctly, the entire process from DFSMSdss IPL to z/OS IPL only takes a 
few hours.


In turn, the COD z/OS system supports installing the z/OS you actually 
want from direct download to z/OS (if you have connectivity at the site) 
or by transferring files from a workstation to the z/OS UNIX file 
system, whether they were downloaded or are also on DVD.  You can 
install a new copy of z/OS using ServerPac (if you are sane) or CBPDO 
(if you aren't); the COD supports both.


It might also be possible to use the FTP-based IPL available on z14 and 
later HMCs for DFSMSdss and FTP file access for the restores, with the 
files on your workstation (set up as an FTP server), which I am told 
should work, but which we have not explicitly tested.  That might or 
might not be faster than restoring from DVD, depending on where the 
bottleneck is in the effective data transfer rate.  Speaking for myself, 
though, restores from DVD would certainly have been done for quite a 
while while I was still fiddling with the FTP configuration and physical 
connections for this IPL path, but YMMV.


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Re: Install z/OS from DVD

[Edward MacNEIL]

 































































































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  Original Message  
From: Doug Fuerst
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 09:30
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Subject: Re: Install z/OS from DVD

I may have a solution, but it may be the same as a customized offering. 
Anyone interested can contact me off list.
Doug

Doug Fuerst
Principal Consultant
BK Associates
718.921.2620 (O)
917.572.7364 (C)
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To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Sent: 02-Mar-18 7:22:11 AM
Subject: Re: Install z/OS from DVD

>This is true for Linux on Z. Not for z/OS.
>
>_
>Dave Jousma
>Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President
>david.jou...@53.com
>1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H
>p 616.653.8429
>f 616.653.2717
>
>-Original Message-
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>On Behalf Of Beesley, Paul
>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 7:00 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Install z/OS from DVD
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>We are setting up a z/Next mainframe on a greenfield site and want to 
>be able to install z/OS from a DVD.
>Back in 2016, Mark Post said..
>“Coming soon will be the ability to IPL _and_ install directly from the 
>HMC DVD drive. It'll be a slow as !@$$ but it won't require an 
>installation server somewhere. You'll still need to connect _into_ the 
>system over the network to complete the install (via SSH or VNC) of 
>course. Even that could be avoided if you set up a custom DVD that 
>points to an autoinst.xml file on the DVD itself and use VNC as the 
>installation method. Completely unattended install without a net. :)”
>
>Has ‘soon’ arrived yet? Or are we still looking at using a Customised 
>Offering Driver?
>
>Regards and thanks
>Paul
>
>
>
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>08514184) and Canopy The Open Cloud Company Limited (registration 
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Re: Install z/OS from DVD

[Doug Fuerst]

 I may have a solution, but it may be the same as a customized offering. 
Anyone interested can contact me off list.

Doug

Doug Fuerst
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To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Sent: 02-Mar-18 7:22:11 AM
Subject: Re: Install z/OS from DVD


This is true for Linux on Z.   Not for z/OS.

_
Dave Jousma
Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 7:00 AM
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Subject: Install z/OS from DVD

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We are setting up a z/Next mainframe on a greenfield site and want to 
be able to install z/OS from a DVD.

Back in 2016, Mark Post said..
“Coming soon will be the ability to IPL _and_ install directly from the 
HMC DVD drive.  It'll be a slow as !@$$ but it won't require an 
installation server somewhere.  You'll still need to connect _into_ the 
system over the network to complete the install (via SSH or VNC) of 
course.  Even that could be avoided if you set up a custom DVD that 
points to an autoinst.xml file on the DVD itself and use VNC as the 
installation method.  Completely unattended install without a net. :)”


Has ‘soon’ arrived yet? Or are we still looking at using a Customised 
Offering Driver?


Regards and thanks
Paul



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Re: Install z/OS from DVD

[Jousma, David]

This is true for Linux on Z.   Not for z/OS.

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We are setting up a z/Next mainframe on a greenfield site and want to be able 
to install z/OS from a DVD.
Back in 2016, Mark Post said..
“Coming soon will be the ability to IPL _and_ install directly from the HMC DVD 
drive.  It'll be a slow as !@$$ but it won't require an installation server 
somewhere.  You'll still need to connect _into_ the system over the network to 
complete the install (via SSH or VNC) of course.  Even that could be avoided if 
you set up a custom DVD that points to an autoinst.xml file on the DVD itself 
and use VNC as the installation method.  Completely unattended install without 
a net. :)”

Has ‘soon’ arrived yet? Or are we still looking at using a Customised Offering 
Driver?

Regards and thanks
Paul



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Install z/OS from DVD

[Beesley, Paul]

We are setting up a z/Next mainframe on a greenfield site and want to be able 
to install z/OS from a DVD.
Back in 2016, Mark Post said..
“Coming soon will be the ability to IPL _and_ install directly from the HMC DVD 
drive.  It'll be a slow as !@$$ but it won't require an installation server 
somewhere.  You'll still need to connect _into_ the system over the network to 
complete the install (via SSH or VNC) of course.  Even that could be avoided if 
you set up a custom DVD that points to an autoinst.xml file on the DVD itself 
and use VNC as the installation method.  Completely unattended install without 
a net. :)”

Has ‘soon’ arrived yet? Or are we still looking at using a Customised Offering 
Driver?

Regards and thanks
Paul



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names used by the Atos group. The following trading entities are registered in 
England and Wales: Atos IT Services UK Limited (registered number 01245534), 
Atos Consulting Limited (registered number 04312380), Atos Worldline UK Limited 
(registered number 08514184) and Canopy The Open Cloud Company Limited 
(registration number 08011902). The registered office for each is at 4 Triton 
Square, Regent’s Place, London, NW1 3HG.The VAT No. for each is: GB232327983.

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