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Speaking of old predictions: /* By 2005 or so, it will be clear that the
Internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's.
-Paul Krugman, Nobel-prize-winning economist in 1998 */
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Fax machines are still heavily used un medical and legal areas
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Fax machines are still heavily used un medical and legal areas
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The FAX machine's impact wasn't exactly tiny. Short-lived, yes.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:04 PM Dave Beagle <
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> Picking on Krugman is typical of the right. But, that’s not exactly what
> he said. Here’s the context.
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Picking on Krugman is typical of the right. But, that’s not exactly what he
said. Here’s the context.
https://www.businessinsider.com/paul-krugman-responds-to-internet-quote-2013-12?amp
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On Thursday, February 22, 2024, 5:12 PM, Bob Bridges
> Current AI does not "understand" the information it holds, nor does
it have a concept of "truth".
So it's like a CEO. Good to know.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 6:13 PM Joel C. Ewing wrote:
> One needs to understand that today's Large Language Model AI tools like
> ChatGPT, etc. are essentially
One needs to understand that today's Large Language Model AI tools like
ChatGPT, etc. are essentially driven by huge statistical databases
created from processing huge volumes of digital text using some
knowledge of sentence structure and words. Those tools can accept
English-language queries
Speaking of old predictions: /* By 2005 or so, it will be clear that the
Internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's.
-Paul Krugman, Nobel-prize-winning economist in 1998 */
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Sorry, the date has been truncated on the left.
That should be 11994.
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Dave,
I was told the same thing 54 years ago whe
Right now there is a move within the US Fed Gov't to convert ALC
to Java.
They need ALC programmers that know the old style programming
because some of this code predates MVS/XA.
Just say'n'.
Steve Thompson
On 2/22/2024 12:29 PM, Dave Beagle wrote:
I don’t deny there will be assembler
I don’t deny there will be assembler code running. It’s just that you won’t
need assembler programmers. It’s been shrinking for decades as a needed
skillset. Explains why hardly anyone teaches it and why assembler coding jobs
are few. Also explains why the Assembler listserv is almost dead. Ray
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AI?
More AS!
This is on LinkedIn, it's AI generated and you can probably sue them for
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A 5-year prediction is generally safe, because in 5 years people will have
forgotten the predictions. Who
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I guess my question is, do we expect AI to look at COBOL code, and not
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I guess my question is, do we expect AI to look at COBOL code, and not
simply compile it, but analyze the flow, and output optimized Assembler
code? Will AI become the highly skilled Assembler programmer that I never
became?
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:54 AM Tom Harper <
Dave,
I was told the same thing 54 years ago when I starting working at CalTrans.
Managers would just be able to code in COBOL PROFITS = SALES - EXPENSES and we
would all be out of a job.
Of course, there are more programmers now than at any time in history.
The question of assembler comes
On LinkedIn I searched for AI jobs and got 154,000 hits. I then searched for
Assembler jobs and got 6478 hits. As a very smart person said, AI won’t replace
workers, people who know AI will replace people who don’t.
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On Thursday, February 22, 2024, 11:08 AM,
Assembler programming will be almost nonexistent in 5 years.
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On Thursday, February 22, 2024, 10:32 AM, Robert Prins
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AI?
More AS!
This is on LinkedIn, it's AI generated and you can probably sue them for
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