Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-24 Thread Richards, Robert B.
> IGD01008I STORAGE ADMIN HAS TARGETED STORCLAS STDSYS  IGD01014I DATA SET 
> ALLOCATION REQUEST FAILED -  SPECIFIED STORCLAS STDSYS DOES NOT EXIST

Doesn't Elaine need to resolve the non-existent storclas (STDSYS) first? The 
rest of the recommendation are nice too! :-)

Bob

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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 11:57 AM
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Subject: Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

I'm copying disk to disk.
source file is 2 volumes and I want to copy (expand) to pre-allocated, 
catalogued 3 volume file.
I modified the  OUTDDNAME(DASD2) to include all 3 (new) volumes.

The issue (now) is that the copy is trying to use the original STORCLAS but the 
new file is a different STORCLAS

ADR709E (001)-ACS  (01), AN ERROR OCCURRED IN THE STORAGE MANAGEMENT SUBSYSTEM 
WHILE DETERMINING SMS CONSTRUCTS FOR DATA SET
 SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS WITH NEWNAME 
SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS. SMS MESSAGES FOLLOW.
 IGD01008I STORAGE ADMIN HAS TARGETED STORCLAS STDSYS  IGD01014I DATA SET 
ALLOCATION REQUEST FAILED -  SPECIFIED STORCLAS STDSYS DOES NOT EXIST


JCL -

//COPYSTEP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
//DASD1DD   DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=(SSS050,SSS051)
//DASD2DD   DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=(SSS052,SSS053,SSS054)
//SYSINDD   *
   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
   OUTDDNAME(DASD2)  -
   SELECTMULTI(ANY)  -
   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
   SHARE -
   WRITECHECK

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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-23 Thread Jackson, Rob
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Elaine Beal
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 12:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

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I'm copying disk to disk.
source file is 2 volumes and I want to copy (expand) to pre-allocated, 
catalogued 3 volume file.
I modified the  OUTDDNAME(DASD2) to include all 3 (new) volumes.

The issue (now) is that the copy is trying to use the original STORCLAS but the 
new file is a different STORCLAS

ADR709E (001)-ACS  (01), AN ERROR OCCURRED IN THE STORAGE MANAGEMENT SUBSYSTEM 
WHILE DETERMINING SMS CONSTRUCTS FOR DATA SET
 SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS WITH NEWNAME 
SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS. SMS MESSAGES FOLLOW.
 IGD01008I STORAGE ADMIN HAS TARGETED STORCLAS STDSYS  IGD01014I DATA SET 
ALLOCATION REQUEST FAILED -  SPECIFIED STORCLAS STDSYS DOES NOT EXIST


JCL -

//COPYSTEP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
//DASD1DD   DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=(SSS050,SSS051)
//DASD2DD   DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=(SSS052,SSS053,SSS054)
//SYSINDD   *
   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
   OUTDDNAME(DASD2)  -
   SELECTMULTI(ANY)  -
   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
   SHARE -
   WRITECHECK

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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-23 Thread Mark Jacobs
Storageclass ACS routine error, or the storage administrator deleted the STDSTS 
STORCLAS from the active SMS environment?

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On Thursday, May 23, 2019 12:56 PM, Elaine Beal  wrote:

> I'm copying disk to disk.
> source file is 2 volumes and I want to copy (expand) to pre-allocated, 
> catalogued 3 volume file.
> I modified the OUTDDNAME(DASD2) to include all 3 (new) volumes.
>
> The issue (now) is that the copy is trying to use the original STORCLAS but 
> the new file is a different STORCLAS
>
> ADR709E (001)-ACS (01), AN ERROR OCCURRED IN THE STORAGE MANAGEMENT SUBSYSTEM 
> WHILE DETERMINING SMS CONSTRUCTS FOR DATA SET
> SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS WITH NEWNAME SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS. SMS MESSAGES 
> FOLLOW.
> IGD01008I STORAGE ADMIN HAS TARGETED STORCLAS STDSYS
> IGD01014I DATA SET ALLOCATION REQUEST FAILED -
> SPECIFIED STORCLAS STDSYS DOES NOT EXIST
>
> JCL -
>
> //COPYSTEP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //DASD1 DD DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=(SSS050,SSS051)
> //DASD2 DD DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=(SSS052,SSS053,SSS054)
> //SYSIN DD *
> COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS)) -
> LOGINDDNAME(DASD1) -
> OUTDDNAME(DASD2) -
> SELECTMULTI(ANY) -
> RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS, -
> SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
> REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL -
> ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
> SHARE -
> WRITECHECK
>
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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-23 Thread Allan Staller
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Elaine Beal
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 11:57 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

I'm copying disk to disk.
source file is 2 volumes and I want to copy (expand) to pre-allocated, 
catalogued 3 volume file.
I modified the  OUTDDNAME(DASD2) to include all 3 (new) volumes.

The issue (now) is that the copy is trying to use the original STORCLAS but the 
new file is a different STORCLAS

ADR709E (001)-ACS  (01), AN ERROR OCCURRED IN THE STORAGE MANAGEMENT SUBSYSTEM 
WHILE DETERMINING SMS CONSTRUCTS FOR DATA SET
 SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS WITH NEWNAME 
SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS. SMS MESSAGES FOLLOW.
 IGD01008I STORAGE ADMIN HAS TARGETED STORCLAS STDSYS  IGD01014I DATA SET 
ALLOCATION REQUEST FAILED -  SPECIFIED STORCLAS STDSYS DOES NOT EXIST


JCL -

//COPYSTEP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
//DASD1DD   DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=(SSS050,SSS051)
//DASD2DD   DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=(SSS052,SSS053,SSS054)
//SYSINDD   *
   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
   OUTDDNAME(DASD2)  -
   SELECTMULTI(ANY)  -
   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
   SHARE -
   WRITECHECK

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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-23 Thread Elaine Beal
I'm copying disk to disk.
source file is 2 volumes and I want to copy (expand) to pre-allocated, 
catalogued 3 volume file.
I modified the  OUTDDNAME(DASD2) to include all 3 (new) volumes.

The issue (now) is that the copy is trying to use the original STORCLAS but the 
new file is a different STORCLAS

ADR709E (001)-ACS  (01), AN ERROR OCCURRED IN THE STORAGE MANAGEMENT SUBSYSTEM 
WHILE DETERMINING SMS CONSTRUCTS FOR DATA SET
 SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS WITH NEWNAME 
SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS. SMS MESSAGES FOLLOW.
 IGD01008I STORAGE ADMIN HAS TARGETED STORCLAS STDSYS
 IGD01014I DATA SET ALLOCATION REQUEST FAILED -
 SPECIFIED STORCLAS STDSYS DOES NOT EXIST


JCL -

//COPYSTEP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=*
//DASD1DD   DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=(SSS050,SSS051)
//DASD2DD   DISP=SHR,UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=(SSS052,SSS053,SSS054)
//SYSINDD   *
   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
   OUTDDNAME(DASD2)  -
   SELECTMULTI(ANY)  -
   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
   SHARE -
   WRITECHECK

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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-20 Thread Elaine Beal
Robert,

Thank you- duh, read the whole error message:(
I was looking at only the first xxx reason code.

Elaine

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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-17 Thread Robert2 Gensler
Hi Elaine,

Assuming you are getting a ADR380E reason code 75, the message is saying
that sys7.r30.v22.root.hfs resides on more volumes than just the volume
pointed to by DASD1.  It was mentioned by a couple people already to
specify SELECTMULTI(ANY), that should do the trick for you.  If not, please
include the entire error message and I will see what I can do.

Thanks,
Robert
DFSMSdss Architecture and Development
Tucson, AZ
rgen...@us.ibm.com

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
05/16/2019 05:50:46 PM:

> From: Elaine Beal 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 05/16/2019 05:51 PM
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
>
> I've found a lot of " it's " confusing comments on this topic and I
> am beleaguered-
> I am trying to copy a file to an existing, pre-allocated new name.
> Seems that should be pretty straight forward... but having to
> specify rename to make a copy is anything but straight forward
>
> I'm getting ADR380E (001)-FDSCO(08) indicating REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL
> is not specified
> but I get this whether I specify it or not-
>
>
>   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
>   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
>   OUTDDNAME(DASD2,DASD3,DASD4)  -
>   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
>   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
>   REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
>   NULLSTORCLAS BYPASSACS(**) -
>   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
>   SHARE -
>   WRITECHECK
>
> Thanks for any help-
> Elaine
>
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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2019-05-17, at 07:58:45, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) wrote:

> Assuming we're talking copying to disk (I'm not sure you could copy a dataset 
> to tape, never tried),
> but ZFS's, being VSAM, must be cataloged; you couldn't thus copy a ZFS to two 
> different volumes
> with the same dataset name because of the catalog clash.
>  
Could it be catalogued in a different catalog?

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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-17 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
Assuming we're talking copying to disk (I'm not sure you could copy a dataset 
to tape, never tried), but ZFS's, being VSAM, must be cataloged; you couldn't 
thus copy a ZFS to two different volumes with the same dataset name because of 
the catalog clash.

Andy Styles
z/Series System Programmer



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Presuming this is an HFS, (and based on the supplied dsn) I believe you are 
correct.
If this is a mis-named ZFS, IIRC it can span volumes.

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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 6:43 PM
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Subject: Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

I don't know for sure if OUTDD works exactly like OUTDY; I was wondering.  I 
used (no longer a DSS shop) OUTDY to list candidate volumes; COPY makes only 
one copy, whether it exists on one volume or is spread across multiple ones.  
Anyway, since this is non-SMS managed, it can be on only one volume--assuming 
it's really HFS.  I guess the same restriction would apply to ZFS.

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Mike Schwab
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

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So you are making 3 copies on 3 different OUTDDNAMES?
If it is one dataset on 3 volumes it would be one OUTDDNAME, right?

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:51 PM Elaine Beal  wrote:
>
> I've found a lot of " it's " confusing comments on this topic and I am
> beleaguered- I am trying to copy a file to an existing, pre-allocated new 
> name.
> Seems that should be pretty straight forward... but having to specify
> rename to make a copy is anything but straight forward
>
> I'm getting ADR380E (001)-FDSCO(08) indicating REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL is
> not specified but I get this whether I specify it or not-
>
>
>   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
>   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
>   OUTDDNAME(DASD2,DASD3,DASD4)  -
>   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
>   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
>   REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
>   NULLSTORCLAS BYPASSACS(**) -
>   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
>   SHARE -
>   WRITECHECK
>
> Thanks for any help-
> Elaine
>
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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-17 Thread Allan Staller
Presuming this is an HFS, (and based on the supplied dsn) I believe you are 
correct.
If this is a mis-named ZFS, IIRC it can span volumes.

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Jackson, Rob
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 6:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

I don't know for sure if OUTDD works exactly like OUTDY; I was wondering.  I 
used (no longer a DSS shop) OUTDY to list candidate volumes; COPY makes only 
one copy, whether it exists on one volume or is spread across multiple ones.  
Anyway, since this is non-SMS managed, it can be on only one volume--assuming 
it's really HFS.  I guess the same restriction would apply to ZFS.

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Mike Schwab
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:13 PM
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So you are making 3 copies on 3 different OUTDDNAMES?
If it is one dataset on 3 volumes it would be one OUTDDNAME, right?

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:51 PM Elaine Beal  wrote:
>
> I've found a lot of " it's " confusing comments on this topic and I am
> beleaguered- I am trying to copy a file to an existing, pre-allocated new 
> name.
> Seems that should be pretty straight forward... but having to specify
> rename to make a copy is anything but straight forward
>
> I'm getting ADR380E (001)-FDSCO(08) indicating REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL is
> not specified but I get this whether I specify it or not-
>
>
>   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
>   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
>   OUTDDNAME(DASD2,DASD3,DASD4)  -
>   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
>   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
>   REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
>   NULLSTORCLAS BYPASSACS(**) -
>   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
>   SHARE -
>   WRITECHECK
>
> Thanks for any help-
> Elaine
>
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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-17 Thread willie bunter
 Just to add my 2 cents you will need to add parm REPLACEU  if the target dsn 
exists and cataloged.
On Friday, May 17, 2019, 9:59:24 a.m. UTC, Richards, Robert B. 
<01c91f408b9e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:  
 
 Try added SELECTMULTI(ANY)

Bob

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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

I don't know for sure if OUTDD works exactly like OUTDY; I was wondering.  I 
used (no longer a DSS shop) OUTDY to list candidate volumes; COPY makes only 
one copy, whether it exists on one volume or is spread across multiple ones.  
Anyway, since this is non-SMS managed, it can be on only one volume--assuming 
it's really HFS.  I guess the same restriction would apply to ZFS.

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Subject: Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

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So you are making 3 copies on 3 different OUTDDNAMES?
If it is one dataset on 3 volumes it would be one OUTDDNAME, right?

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:51 PM Elaine Beal  wrote:
>
> I've found a lot of " it's " confusing comments on this topic and I am 
> beleaguered- I am trying to copy a file to an existing, pre-allocated new 
> name.
> Seems that should be pretty straight forward... but having to specify 
> rename to make a copy is anything but straight forward
>
> I'm getting ADR380E (001)-FDSCO(08) indicating REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL is 
> not specified but I get this whether I specify it or not-
>
>
>  COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
>      LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
>      OUTDDNAME(DASD2,DASD3,DASD4)  -
>      RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,  -
>      SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
>      REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL  -
>      NULLSTORCLAS BYPASSACS(**) -
>      ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
>      SHARE -
>      WRITECHECK
>
> Thanks for any help-
> Elaine
>
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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-17 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Try added SELECTMULTI(ANY)

Bob

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Of Jackson, Rob
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:43 PM
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Subject: Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

I don't know for sure if OUTDD works exactly like OUTDY; I was wondering.  I 
used (no longer a DSS shop) OUTDY to list candidate volumes; COPY makes only 
one copy, whether it exists on one volume or is spread across multiple ones.  
Anyway, since this is non-SMS managed, it can be on only one volume--assuming 
it's really HFS.  I guess the same restriction would apply to ZFS.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Mike Schwab
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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So you are making 3 copies on 3 different OUTDDNAMES?
If it is one dataset on 3 volumes it would be one OUTDDNAME, right?

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:51 PM Elaine Beal  wrote:
>
> I've found a lot of " it's " confusing comments on this topic and I am 
> beleaguered- I am trying to copy a file to an existing, pre-allocated new 
> name.
> Seems that should be pretty straight forward... but having to specify 
> rename to make a copy is anything but straight forward
>
> I'm getting ADR380E (001)-FDSCO(08) indicating REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL is 
> not specified but I get this whether I specify it or not-
>
>
>   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
>   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
>   OUTDDNAME(DASD2,DASD3,DASD4)  -
>   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
>   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
>   REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
>   NULLSTORCLAS BYPASSACS(**) -
>   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
>   SHARE -
>   WRITECHECK
>
> Thanks for any help-
> Elaine
>
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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-16 Thread Jackson, Rob
I don't know for sure if OUTDD works exactly like OUTDY; I was wondering.  I 
used (no longer a DSS shop) OUTDY to list candidate volumes; COPY makes only 
one copy, whether it exists on one volume or is spread across multiple ones.  
Anyway, since this is non-SMS managed, it can be on only one volume--assuming 
it's really HFS.  I guess the same restriction would apply to ZFS.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Mike Schwab
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

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So you are making 3 copies on 3 different OUTDDNAMES?
If it is one dataset on 3 volumes it would be one OUTDDNAME, right?

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:51 PM Elaine Beal  wrote:
>
> I've found a lot of " it's " confusing comments on this topic and I am 
> beleaguered- I am trying to copy a file to an existing, pre-allocated new 
> name.
> Seems that should be pretty straight forward... but having to specify 
> rename to make a copy is anything but straight forward
>
> I'm getting ADR380E (001)-FDSCO(08) indicating REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL is 
> not specified but I get this whether I specify it or not-
>
>
>   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
>   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
>   OUTDDNAME(DASD2,DASD3,DASD4)  -
>   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
>   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
>   REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
>   NULLSTORCLAS BYPASSACS(**) -
>   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
>   SHARE -
>   WRITECHECK
>
> Thanks for any help-
> Elaine
>
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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-16 Thread Jackson, Rob
Please post the full message.  That 001 is not the reason code; that should be 
right after 'NOT PROCESSED'.  If the reason code were actually 1, for an 
un-moveable dataset, I'd say add FORCE.

You could also just delete the target.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Elaine Beal
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 5:51 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

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I've found a lot of " it's " confusing comments on this topic and I am 
beleaguered- I am trying to copy a file to an existing, pre-allocated new name.
Seems that should be pretty straight forward... but having to specify rename to 
make a copy is anything but straight forward

I'm getting ADR380E (001)-FDSCO(08) indicating REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL is not 
specified but I get this whether I specify it or not-


  COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
  LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
  OUTDDNAME(DASD2,DASD3,DASD4)  -
  RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
  SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
  REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
  NULLSTORCLAS BYPASSACS(**) -
  ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
  SHARE -
  WRITECHECK

Thanks for any help-
Elaine

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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-16 Thread Mike Schwab
So you are making 3 copies on 3 different OUTDDNAMES?
If it is one dataset on 3 volumes it would be one OUTDDNAME, right?

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:51 PM Elaine Beal  wrote:
>
> I've found a lot of " it's " confusing comments on this topic and I am 
> beleaguered-
> I am trying to copy a file to an existing, pre-allocated new name.
> Seems that should be pretty straight forward... but having to specify rename 
> to make a copy is anything but straight forward
>
> I'm getting ADR380E (001)-FDSCO(08) indicating REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL is not 
> specified
> but I get this whether I specify it or not-
>
>
>   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
>   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
>   OUTDDNAME(DASD2,DASD3,DASD4)  -
>   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
>   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
>   REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
>   NULLSTORCLAS BYPASSACS(**) -
>   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
>   SHARE -
>   WRITECHECK
>
> Thanks for any help-
> Elaine
>
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Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-16 Thread scott Ford
Same names on a rename

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 5:51 PM Elaine Beal  wrote:

> I've found a lot of " it's " confusing comments on this topic and I am
> beleaguered-
> I am trying to copy a file to an existing, pre-allocated new name.
> Seems that should be pretty straight forward... but having to specify
> rename to make a copy is anything but straight forward
>
> I'm getting ADR380E (001)-FDSCO(08) indicating REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL is not
> specified
> but I get this whether I specify it or not-
>
>
>   COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS))  -
>   LOGINDDNAME(DASD1)  -
>   OUTDDNAME(DASD2,DASD3,DASD4)  -
>   RENAMEU((SYS7.R30.V22.ROOT.HFS,   -
>   SYS7.R30.V22.RSU.ROOT.HFS)) -
>   REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL   -
>   NULLSTORCLAS BYPASSACS(**) -
>   ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP CANCELERROR -
>   SHARE -
>   WRITECHECK
>
> Thanks for any help-
> Elaine
>
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