Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-13 Thread Linda
Hi Art, Your recollection of the figures from the keynote matches mine. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Art Gutowski arthur.gutow...@gm.com wrote: If my notes are accurate from Ross' Keynote address to SHARE attendees in Seattle, mainframes account for 68% of

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-13 Thread Itschak Mugzach
so what are you saying? those IT managers that cut the mainframe market by 50%+ in few years by migration to WUL platforms didn't know to calculate? The numbers in the webcast can be explained. There is a high-cost entry level to the mainframe market, which only those who are already there (or

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-12 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 3/10/15 8:19 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Windows support costs are hard to identify. We know who supports the mainframe; they work for mainframe IT. But Windows in each department is supported in his spare time by that bright computer whiz kid in that department, and he is on their payroll. I

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-11 Thread Charles Mills
*Usually* not. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lou Losee Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 8:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology Is there a link to the keynote

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Charles Mills
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 4:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:36:30 -0500, Art Gutowski wrote: Given the armies of sysadmins

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Lou Losee
Is there a link to the keynote or the data presented during the keynote? Lo -- Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity - Unknown On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Art Gutowski arthur.gutow...@gm.com wrote: If my notes are accurate from Ross' Keynote address to SHARE

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Art Gutowski
If my notes are accurate from Ross' Keynote address to SHARE attendees in Seattle, mainframes account for 68% of production workloads, but only 6% of IT spend (exclusive of aggregate labor costs across platforms). Given the armies of sysadmins to support *nix and windoze platforms, I gotta

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Wow, those are big numbers! Thank you, Tom. This seems to be a good thing to be shared with techies, but specially with management. I'm looking forward to it. Thanks, ---

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Charles Mills
, March 10, 2015 1:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology If my notes are accurate from Ross' Keynote address to SHARE attendees in Seattle, mainframes account for 68% of production workloads, but only 6% of IT spend (exclusive of aggregate labor costs across

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
arthur.gutow...@gm.com (Art Gutowski) writes: If my notes are accurate from Ross' Keynote address to SHARE attendees in Seattle, mainframes account for 68% of production workloads, but only 6% of IT spend (exclusive of aggregate labor costs across platforms). Given the armies of sysadmins to

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-10 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 15:36:30 -0500, Art Gutowski wrote: Given the armies of sysadmins to support *nix and windoze platforms, I gotta believe labor costs on these platforms eclipse those of the mainframe. As Lynn mentions, the move to cloud affects them too - maybe most of all. The time of the