Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Neil Haley
Howdy,

Check this site, http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/listserv.html

Regards,

Neil Haley
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From:   Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
Date:   06/04/2013 11:44
Subject:Gives There a VM Discussion List?
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I have been using google, and other search lists. The amount of false
positive hits is astounding.

What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS.

The only link I found to such was for an entity in North Carolina that now
gives a 404.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Actually there is definitely a LINUX, VM and other similar newsgroups.

The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.uark.edu

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Steve Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

I have been using google, and other search lists. The amount of false
positive hits is astounding.

What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS.

The only link I found to such was for an entity in North Carolina that now
gives a 404.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread John McKown
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subscribe vmesa-l Steve Thompson

or go to:

http://listserv.uark.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=VMESA-L


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Neil Haley nha...@ca.ibm.com wrote:

 Howdy,

 Check this site, http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/listserv.html

 Regards,

 Neil Haley
 nha...@ca.ibm.com
 Storage  Software Mainframe Support
 http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/ | http://www.about.me/NeilHaley




 From:   Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
 Date:   06/04/2013 11:44
 Subject:Gives There a VM Discussion List?
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu



 I have been using google, and other search lists. The amount of false
 positive hits is astounding.

 What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS.

 The only link I found to such was for an entity in North Carolina that now
 gives a 404.

 Regards,
 Steve Thompson

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Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I should have added


To subscribe, send mail to lists...@listserv.uark.edu with the command
(paste it!) in the e-mail message body:

SUBSCRIBE IBMVM

Lizette

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

Actually there is definitely a LINUX, VM and other similar newsgroups.

The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.uark.edu

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Steve Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:32 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

I have been using google, and other search lists. The amount of false
positive hits is astounding.

What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS.

The only link I found to such was for an entity in North Carolina that now
gives a 404.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Mark Regan
The 'master' list of all discussion lists using listserver is at

http://www.lsoft.com/lists/list_q.html


 
Thanks,

Mark Regan



- Original Message -
From: Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:31 AM
Subject: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

I have been using google, and other search lists. The amount of false 
positive hits is astounding.

What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS.

The only link I found to such was for an entity in North Carolina that now 
gives a 404.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Steve Thompson
From:   Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
Date:   06/04/2013 11:55 AM



Actually there is definitely a LINUX, VM and other similar newsgroups.

The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.uark.edu

Lizette

 

Thanx. I knew it existed, I just couldn't remember the domain.

I'm now subscribed.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 June 2013 11:31, Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS.

Well... There's nothing to say that VM topics shouldn't be discussed
on IBM-MAIN. Certainly most of the discussion is closely related to
z/OS, but this list is not restricted to that one OS.

That said, if you want VM-only discussions, try the IBMVM list at
uark. You should be able to subscribe directly from the list's web
page at

http://listserv.uark.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=ibmvm

Tony H.

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Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Ed Finnell
But all lists don't use Lsoft. Sam has a link to lists on _www.cbttape.org_ 
(http://www.cbttape.org) 
(down left hand side) but the last time I tried it a few of the lists had  
moved!
 
Chuckie has been a long time participant with ibm-main although his  
responsibilities have shifted.
 
 
In a message dated 6/4/2013 11:00:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
netsfw-ibmm...@yahoo.com writes:

'master'  list of all discussion lists using listserver is  at


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Re: Gives There a VM Discussion List?

2013-06-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
sthomp...@us.ibm.com (Steve Thompson) writes:
 I have been using google, and other search lists. The amount of false 
 positive hits is astounding.

 What I am looking for is an equivalent to IBM Main for VM/CMS.

 The only link I found to such was for an entity in North Carolina that now 
 gives a 404.

both ibm-main and ibmvm (as well as numerous others) originated on
university, ibm-sponsored (vm-based) network in the 80s. It used
technology that was similar to that developed for the internal, vm-based
network (which was larger than the arpanet/internet from just about the
beginning until sometime late '85 or early '86). some past posts
mentioning internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
some past posts mentioning ibm-sponsored univ. bitnet (and
earn in europe)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet

in the early 90s the bitnet groups moved to internet mailing lists
 and periodically over the years various bitnet mailing lists have
been gatewayed to usenet ... which now also runs over the
internet. usenet is in turned gatewayed to google. at the moment,
ibm-main is gatewayed to usenet (and therefor also google, however
outgoing only, posts made to usenet bit.listserv.ibm-main don't go in
reverse and showup on the ibm-main mailing list) and ibmvm isn't
gatewayed to usenet. Note at various times in the past various gateways
have handled two-way operation between usenet and listserv mailing
lists.

ibmvm mailing list currently handled by lists...@listserv.uark.edu

current listserv originated in Paris in the mid-80s on EARN (bitnet's
cousin in europe)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LISTSERV

support for other platforms have been added since the original VM
implementation ... from listserv wiki:

Listserv is currently available for and supported on Linux, Solaris,
FreeBSD, AIX, Mac OS X, OpenVMS, HP-UX, Tru64, z/VM, and Microsoft
Windows (XP, 2000, 2003, Vista, 2008, and 7)

... snip ...

originally listserv was a subset of a similar internal application
called TOOLSRUN (which provided both mailing list type option as well as
a usenet type option).

I had been blamed for computing conferencing on the internal network in
the late 70s and early 80s ... and was doing a semi-automated process.
folklore is when the corporate executive committee was told about
computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5-of-6 wanted to fire
me. What followed was a lot of internal task force investigations
followed by the sponsorship of official sanctioned discussions (and
automated TOOLSRUN that provided automated usenet-like  mailing list
function)

old email from person setting up EARN ... looking for network oriented
applications:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#email840320

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