Re: How to move to zFS V5 - painlessly

2018-06-13 Thread Michael Babcock
Don’t forget to check the format_aggrversion if you have it coded in
IOEPRMxx.   If not coded, the default on z/OS 2.3 is 5 but the default for
2.2 is 4.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:56 AM Jousma, David <
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> No.   I converted all of our filesystems (except SMPE controlled
> filesystems) via the command on all of our systems.  Was very quick, chose
> specific path hierarchies to do at a time.   For all my z/OS supplied ZFS
> filesystems, I converted my "maintenance" environment, and then let my
> cloning process move it out at maintenance time since all of those are
> mounted read only, and didn’t want to chance making them RDWR to do that
> live.
>
> zfsadm convert -path /your/path/names
>
> The IOEPRMxx entry is just a catchall for me, in case one of my team mates
> allocates or has older filesystems laying around that are not normally
> mounted anyway.
>
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> I used the IOEFSUTL to convert in our sand box.  Worked well and the
> largest zFS only took 33 seconds of batch runtime.
>
> Next up is a system covered under SLAs and I don't want it down for an
> extended period of time while I run the batch jobs for 200+ aggregates.
> Did you see an extended IPL time using the converttov5 in IOEPRMxx process?
>
> TIA,
>
> ;-D an
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>
>
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> Use the converttov5=on option in IOEPRMxx
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> >
> >find . -type d -exec zfsadm convert -path {} \;
> >
> >comes pretty darn close.
>
> O, if anyone has a suggestion on how to get the not-mounted-automount file
> systems (those are missed by the find command, because they are not
> mounted, obviously) mounted without having to name them all by hand, I'd
> love to hear.
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Re: How to move to zFS V5 - painlessly

2018-06-13 Thread Gibney, Dave
IS this zFS level thing a z/OS 2.2 and above issue? Or should I have noticed 
when moving to z/OS 2.1 from 1.13

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> 
> No.   I converted all of our filesystems (except SMPE controlled filesystems)
> via the command on all of our systems.  Was very quick, chose specific path
> hierarchies to do at a time.   For all my z/OS supplied ZFS filesystems, I
> converted my "maintenance" environment, and then let my cloning process
> move it out at maintenance time since all of those are mounted read only,
> and didn’t want to chance making them RDWR to do that live.
> 
> zfsadm convert -path /your/path/names
> 
> The IOEPRMxx entry is just a catchall for me, in case one of my team mates
> allocates or has older filesystems laying around that are not normally
> mounted anyway.
> 
> ___
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> Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President
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> I used the IOEFSUTL to convert in our sand box.  Worked well and the largest
> zFS only took 33 seconds of batch runtime.
> 
> Next up is a system covered under SLAs and I don't want it down for an
> extended period of time while I run the batch jobs for 200+ aggregates.  Did
> you see an extended IPL time using the converttov5 in IOEPRMxx process?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> ;-D an
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Use the converttov5=on option in IOEPRMxx
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> >
> >find . -type d -exec zfsadm convert -path {} \;
> >
> >comes pretty darn close.
> 
> O, if anyone has a suggestion on how to get the not-mounted-automount file
> systems (those are missed by the find command, because they are not
> mounted, obviously) mounted without having to name them all by hand, I'd
> love to hear.
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Re: How to move to zFS V5 - painlessly

2018-06-13 Thread Jousma, David
No.   I converted all of our filesystems (except SMPE controlled filesystems) 
via the command on all of our systems.  Was very quick, chose specific path 
hierarchies to do at a time.   For all my z/OS supplied ZFS filesystems, I 
converted my "maintenance" environment, and then let my cloning process move it 
out at maintenance time since all of those are mounted read only, and didn’t 
want to chance making them RDWR to do that live.

zfsadm convert -path /your/path/names

The IOEPRMxx entry is just a catchall for me, in case one of my team mates 
allocates or has older filesystems laying around that are not normally mounted 
anyway.

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I used the IOEFSUTL to convert in our sand box.  Worked well and the largest 
zFS only took 33 seconds of batch runtime.

Next up is a system covered under SLAs and I don't want it down for an extended 
period of time while I run the batch jobs for 200+ aggregates.  Did you see an 
extended IPL time using the converttov5 in IOEPRMxx process?

TIA,

;-D an




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Use the converttov5=on option in IOEPRMxx 
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:37:18 -0500, Jantje.  wrote:

>
>find . -type d -exec zfsadm convert -path {} \;
>
>comes pretty darn close.

O, if anyone has a suggestion on how to get the not-mounted-automount file 
systems (those are missed by the find command, because they are not mounted, 
obviously) mounted without having to name them all by hand, I'd love to hear.

Jantje.

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Re: How to move to zFS V5 - painlessly

2018-06-13 Thread Blake, Daniel J [CTR]
I used the IOEFSUTL to convert in our sand box.  Worked well and the largest 
zFS only took 33 seconds of batch runtime.

Next up is a system covered under SLAs and I don't want it down for an extended 
period of time while I run the batch jobs for 200+ aggregates.  Did you see an 
extended IPL time using the converttov5 in IOEPRMxx process?

TIA,

;-D an




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Use the converttov5=on option in IOEPRMxx
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:37:18 -0500, Jantje.  wrote:

>
>find . -type d -exec zfsadm convert -path {} \;
>
>comes pretty darn close.

O, if anyone has a suggestion on how to get the not-mounted-automount file 
systems (those are missed by the find command, because they are not mounted, 
obviously) mounted without having to name them all by hand, I'd love to hear.

Jantje.

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Re: How to move to zFS V5 - painlessly

2018-06-13 Thread Jousma, David
Missed the comment about being automounted.  For that I added the parm to my 
automount policy

name   * 
type   zfs   
filesystem OMVSU..HOME.ZFS  
mode   rdwr  
parm   rwshare,converttov5   
delay  10
duration   10
lowercase  yes   
allocuser  space(1,5) cyl

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:37:18 -0500, Jantje.  wrote:

>
>find . -type d -exec zfsadm convert -path {} \;
>
>comes pretty darn close. 

O, if anyone has a suggestion on how to get the not-mounted-automount file 
systems (those are missed by the find command, because they are not mounted, 
obviously) mounted without having to name them all by hand, I'd love to hear.

Jantje.

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Re: How to move to zFS V5 - painlessly

2018-06-13 Thread Jousma, David
Use the converttov5=on option in IOEPRMxx
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>find . -type d -exec zfsadm convert -path {} \;
>
>comes pretty darn close. 

O, if anyone has a suggestion on how to get the not-mounted-automount file 
systems (those are missed by the find command, because they are not mounted, 
obviously) mounted without having to name them all by hand, I'd love to hear.

Jantje.

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Re: How to move to zFS V5 - painlessly

2018-06-13 Thread Jantje.
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:24:21 -0700, Lizette Koehler  
wrote:

>List -
>
>
>I am afraid there is no mass conversion utility, 

This is true, but I found that

find . -type d -exec zfsadm convert -path {} \;

comes pretty darn close. The not-faint-hearted may even substitute a / for the 
. in the above command.

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Re: How to move to zFS V5 - painlessly

2018-06-07 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:24 PM Lizette Koehler 
wrote:

> List -
>
> Just thought I would share this information should you want to move from
> v4 to
> v5 zFS files.  This is for z/OS V2.1.  You would need to check for your
> level of
> z/OS.
>
>
>
> There is a parm you can use to set the default format of a zFS filesystem
> to V5
> in IOEFSPRM.
>
> format_aggrversion=4 Sets the default format for new zfs datasets to v4
> format_aggrversion=5 Sets the default format for new zFS datasets to v5
>

​I love it because I first read that as format_AGGRAVATION= .

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Re: How to move to zFS V5 - painlessly

2018-06-06 Thread Scott Barry
Seems a tad risky for "convert on next mount" -- not to presume there is a 
current/BEFORE backup, just in case...

With one client, we are considering a manual migration task-activity - 
monitoring progress (with version-info listed) using current-state / inventory 
command:  zfsadm aggrinfo -long

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 12:24:21 -0700, Lizette Koehler  
wrote:

>List -
>
>Just thought I would share this information should you want to move from v4 to
>v5 zFS files.  This is for z/OS V2.1.  You would need to check for your level 
>of
>z/OS.
>
>
>
>There is a parm you can use to set the default format of a zFS filesystem to V5
>in IOEFSPRM.
>
>format_aggrversion=4 Sets the default format for new zfs datasets to v4
>format_aggrversion=5 Sets the default format for new zFS datasets to v5
>
>
>I am afraid there is no mass conversion utility, but there is something you
>might find useful and that is the
>
>change_aggrversion_on_mount
>
>IOEFSPRM option. With this option enabled zFS v4 datasets would be converted to
>v5 then next time they are mounted. This can also be done with the converttov5
>configuration option in IOEPRMxx or with CONVERTTOV5 on the mount command
>itself. To maximize the conversion I would enable both
>
>change_aggrversion_on_mount and
>
>CONVERTTOV5.
>
>See this manual on z/OS Moutn command: https://ibm.biz/BdrTcb
>
>CONVERTTOV5 | NOCONVERTTOV5
>Specifies whether a zFS read/write file system is assigned the converttov5
>attribute. If it is assigned the converttov5 attribute and the aggregate is a
>version 1.5 aggregate, zFS automatically converts directories from v4 to
>extended (v5) as they are accessed. If the converttov5 attribute is assigned at
>primary mount time, a version 1.4 aggregate is changed to a version 1.5
>aggregate.
>
>If automatic directory conversion for a directory fails, the conversion is
>not attempted again until the file system is unmounted and mounted again.
>
>The converttov5 attribute can also be assigned if the MOUNT option is not
>specified but the converttov5 specification in the IOEFSPRM file is on when the
>file system is mounted or remounted.
>
>The default is NOCONVERTTOV5. However, the converttov5 attribute can also 
> be
>assigned if the converttov5 specification in the IOEFSPRM file is on when the
>file system is mounted or remounted.
>
>
>
>
>Lizette Koehler
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