Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
W dniu 2018-11-12 o 17:50, Paul Gilmartin pisze: [...] Others: o At times I've needed to resort to PDS rather than PDSE because of cross-plex sharing constraints on PDSE. o Does PDSE impose a stricter constraint on number of records in a single member than PDS? Perhaps 16Mi? Yes. PDSE V1 had a limit on 15 728 639 records per member, which yields approx 1,2 GB for RECFM=80. For PDSE V2 the limit was increased to 2 146 435 071 records, approx. 171 GB. PDS has no limitation for member size, but it is limited to 64k tracks, so the biggest member could be ~3,8 GB - more than PDSE V1, much less than PDSE V2. BTW: there is poorly documented limit for PDSE size 16 TB or 178 956 970 tracks (~10,1 TB). Both are theoretical nowadays, because the largest volume is 1 TB. o Could an installation convert *all* its PDS to PDSE and never deal with PDS again? Is this precluded only by the scatter-load limitation? What abour PARMLIB-type data sets? ServerPac Installation Dialog can tell you which libraries cannot be converted form PDS to PDSE. There really few of them, vast majority can be converted, more and more must be PDSE. According to Dialog PARMLIB has to be PDS. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2018 r. wynosi 169.248.488 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169,248,488 as at 1 January 2018. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
This point was discussed recently. The restriction as stated applies to LPA list. Link list has a number of IBM-supplied PDSE libraries specified in PROGxx. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. The last I looked you couldn't have PDSE in the initial link list, although you could add it dynamically. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:28:44 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:35:55 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >>It's a shame that the capabilities of PDSE aren't a superset of the >>capabilities of PDS. > >They are, with the exception of scatter-load. I believe that is used only for >the system nucleus. > Others: o At times I've needed to resort to PDS rather than PDSE because of cross-plex sharing constraints on PDSE. o Does PDSE impose a stricter constraint on number of records in a single member than PDS? Perhaps 16Mi? o Could an installation convert *all* its PDS to PDSE and never deal with PDS again? Is this precluded only by the scatter-load limitation? What abour PARMLIB-type data sets? o A PDS with RECFM=U can contain both load modules and non-load module data members. The analogous is not possible with PDSE. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
The last I looked you couldn't have PDSE in the initial link list, although you could add it dynamically. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:28:44 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:35:55 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >>It's a shame that the capabilities of PDSE aren't a superset of the >>capabilities >>of PDS. > >They are, with the exception of scatter-load. I believe that is used only for >the system nucleus. > Others: o At times I've needed to resort to PDS rather than PDSE because of cross-plex sharing constraints on PDSE. o Does PDSE impose a stricter constraint on number of records in a single member than PDS? Perhaps 16Mi? o Could an installation convert *all* its PDS to PDSE and never deal with PDS again? Is this precluded only by the scatter-load limitation? What abour PARMLIB-type data sets? o A PDS with RECFM=U can contain both load modules and non-load module data members. The analogous is not possible with PDSE. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:28:44 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:35:55 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >>It's a shame that the capabilities of PDSE aren't a superset of the >>capabilities >>of PDS. > >They are, with the exception of scatter-load. I believe that is used only for >the system nucleus. > Others: o At times I've needed to resort to PDS rather than PDSE because of cross-plex sharing constraints on PDSE. o Does PDSE impose a stricter constraint on number of records in a single member than PDS? Perhaps 16Mi? o Could an installation convert *all* its PDS to PDSE and never deal with PDS again? Is this precluded only by the scatter-load limitation? What abour PARMLIB-type data sets? o A PDS with RECFM=U can contain both load modules and non-load module data members. The analogous is not possible with PDSE. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:35:55 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >It's a shame that the capabilities of PDSE aren't a superset of the >capabilities >of PDS. They are, with the exception of scatter-load. I believe that is used only for the system nucleus. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
In what language? IBM XLC C++ V2R3. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 1:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. What is this load module written? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
What is this load module written? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 10:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. On 11/9/2018 3:24 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > The debug load module is 18MB. The release compile load module is 002FE160 = > ~3 MB. It's reassuring to know it's not YOUR inefficient code that's made this module so massive! ;-) -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
You don't know -- it might have been 18 MB of brilliant functionality. Seriously, one other thing I forgot to mention. This used to work. I know I have done a "practice" distro using a debug build. But the debug build must have grown from < to > 16 MB in the interim. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 8:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. On 11/9/2018 3:24 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > The debug load module is 18MB. The release compile load module is 002FE160 = > ~3 MB. It's reassuring to know it's not YOUR inefficient code that's made this module so massive! ;-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
On 11/9/2018 3:24 PM, Charles Mills wrote: The debug load module is 18MB. The release compile load module is 002FE160 = ~3 MB. It's reassuring to know it's not YOUR inefficient code that's made this module so massive! ;-) -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
I agree. In fact, when I started learning C I liked it enough that I
made a set of z/OS assembler macros and subroutines to sort of simulate
some of the C methods I liked best. For example:
#PRINTF 'IGW%05dE Member %s with length %d is too large for a PDS',
MSGID,MEMBER,LEN
On 11/9/2018 4:16 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
It is one of the benefits of working in C or C++: it is trivially easy to
produce incredibly informative error messages:
CZA0082S Error detected while processing maximum message length ('20') of
'MAXMSG'
CZA0084I Near column 48 of record 46 of Parameter File
xxx..CZAPARMS(CZAPARMS)
CZA0105I V
CZA0106I SERVER 172.29.97.4 TRANS(TCP) MAXMSG(20 ) +
CZA0023S Value must be numeric and between 512 and 250
Charles
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In assembler I tended to code that way initially, while promising myself
I would add separate error messages as soon as I got the kinks out. Sure.
On 11/9/2018 3:20 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
EXACTLY
Charles
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http://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/error_logic.png
On 11/9/2018 2:32 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
Geez, again, would it kill them to say that in the error message?
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It is one of the benefits of working in C or C++: it is trivially easy to
produce incredibly informative error messages:
CZA0082S Error detected while processing maximum message length ('20') of
'MAXMSG'
CZA0084I Near column 48 of record 46 of Parameter File
xxx..CZAPARMS(CZAPARMS)
CZA0105I V
CZA0106I SERVER 172.29.97.4 TRANS(TCP) MAXMSG(20 ) +
CZA0023S Value must be numeric and between 512 and 250
Charles
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Of Tom Brennan
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Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
In assembler I tended to code that way initially, while promising myself
I would add separate error messages as soon as I got the kinks out. Sure.
On 11/9/2018 3:20 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
> EXACTLY
>
> Charles
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Tom Brennan
> Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 3:15 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD
> MODULES.
>
> http://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/error_logic.png
>
> On 11/9/2018 2:32 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
>> Geez, again, would it kill them to say that in the error message?
>
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Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
In assembler I tended to code that way initially, while promising myself I would add separate error messages as soon as I got the kinks out. Sure. On 11/9/2018 3:20 PM, Charles Mills wrote: EXACTLY Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. http://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/error_logic.png On 11/9/2018 2:32 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Geez, again, would it kill them to say that in the error message? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
Yeah, module size was the problem. If anyone cares about the "why" it is because I was testing building a distro in a new environment. Normally a distro is built from a release compile of the C++ modules, of course. But this was just a "test distro" so I built from a debug compile. The debug compile embeds -- well, believe it or not, debug information -- in the load module. The debug load module is 18MB. The release compile load module is 002FE160 = ~3 MB. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joe du Plumber Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. Charles, Check the module size again and refer to this statement in MVS Program Management: User's Guide and Reference (SA23-1393), Chapter 1 Introduction, subsection Using Utilities for Program Management, heading IEBCOPY: "However, you cannot convert a program object into a load module and store it in a partitioned data set library if the program object exceeds the limitations of load modules (for example, if its length is greater than 16 MB)." Your module's size is about 18MB (011C5D10). Just a few bits too large. -- Joe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
EXACTLY Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. http://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/error_logic.png On 11/9/2018 2:32 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > Geez, again, would it kill them to say that in the error message? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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http://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/error_logic.png On 11/9/2018 2:32 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Geez, again, would it kill them to say that in the error message? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
Hmmm. I've done this before but it seems plausible that the load module has grown. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 1:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. Doesn't that size value 011C5D10 mean that the load module is over 16M bytes long? Does PDS support load modules that large? PDSE definitely does, I'm just not certain about PDS. HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. Can anyone explain the subject message to me? The documentation (not!) helpfully explains that the message means The PDSE program object exceeded the limitations for PDS load modules and could not be copied (converted) into the specified PDS library. and refers you over to the Binder API manual. There is also a reason code which not very helpfully has the same general explanation. It's a fairly ordinary executable module IMHO and I have copied more or less the same module from PDSE to PDS before. It is 011C5D10 in size and has no aliases or other remarkable attributes of which I am aware. PROGRAM TYPE PROGRAM OBJECT(FORMAT 3) Charles -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
Thanks. I'll try to find a few bits to lop off. Geez, again, would it kill them to say that in the error message? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joe du Plumber Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. Charles, Check the module size again and refer to this statement in MVS Program Management: User's Guide and Reference (SA23-1393), Chapter 1 Introduction, subsection Using Utilities for Program Management, heading IEBCOPY: "However, you cannot convert a program object into a load module and store it in a partitioned data set library if the program object exceeds the limitations of load modules (for example, if its length is greater than 16 MB)." Your module's size is about 18MB (011C5D10). Just a few bits too large. -- Joe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Charles, Check the module size again and refer to this statement in MVS Program Management: User's Guide and Reference (SA23-1393), Chapter 1 Introduction, subsection Using Utilities for Program Management, heading IEBCOPY: "However, you cannot convert a program object into a load module and store it in a partitioned data set library if the program object exceeds the limitations of load modules (for example, if its length is greater than 16 MB)." Your module's size is about 18MB (011C5D10). Just a few bits too large. -- Joe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Doesn't that size value 011C5D10 mean that the load module is over 16M bytes long? Does PDS support load modules that large? PDSE definitely does, I'm just not certain about PDS. HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IGW01203E MEMBER EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES. Can anyone explain the subject message to me? The documentation (not!) helpfully explains that the message means The PDSE program object exceeded the limitations for PDS load modules and could not be copied (converted) into the specified PDS library. and refers you over to the Binder API manual. There is also a reason code which not very helpfully has the same general explanation. It's a fairly ordinary executable module IMHO and I have copied more or less the same module from PDSE to PDS before. It is 011C5D10 in size and has no aliases or other remarkable attributes of which I am aware. PROGRAM TYPE PROGRAM OBJECT(FORMAT 3) Charles -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IGW01203E MEMBER xxxxxxxx EXCEEDS LIMITATIONS FOR PDS LOAD MODULES.
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:22:33 -0600, Michael Babcock wrote: >Funny you ran across this. We were applying maintenance to Db2 tools >yesterday and received a message from the binder that said a PMO 3 object >could not be stored in a PDS. Holddata for the PTF indicated we needed to >convert the PDS to PDSE. We did and all was well with the world. Don’t >remember the exact message. > It's a shame that the capabilities of PDSE aren't a superset of the capabilities of PDS. Otherwise, all PDS could be converted to PDSE and the PDS consigned to the Computer Museum. IBM dropped the ball. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Funny you ran across this. We were applying maintenance to Db2 tools yesterday and received a message from the binder that said a PMO 3 object could not be stored in a PDS. Holddata for the PTF indicated we needed to convert the PDS to PDSE. We did and all was well with the world. Don’t remember the exact message. On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 2:54 PM Charles Mills wrote: > Can anyone explain the subject message to me? The documentation (not!) > helpfully explains that the message means > > The PDSE program object exceeded the limitations for PDS load modules and > could not be copied (converted) into the specified PDS library. > > and refers you over to the Binder API manual. > > There is also a reason code which not very helpfully has the same general > explanation. > > It's a fairly ordinary executable module IMHO and I have copied more or > less > the same module from PDSE to PDS before. It is 011C5D10 in size and has no > aliases or other remarkable attributes of which I am aware. PROGRAM TYPE > PROGRAM OBJECT(FORMAT 3) > > Charles > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Michael Babcock OneMain Financial z/OS Systems Programmer, Lead -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
