Re: Question on Wait macro

2019-04-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
The task will only be dispatched if the top RB is active. So unless someone 
schedules, e.g., an IRB, the task will be inactive until the RB is active.

Nit: in MVS the word "suspend" has a technical meaning that doesn't apply here.


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Subject: Question on Wait macro

Just looking at the documentation for the wait macro it says “performance of 
the active task” I was under the impression that the task is active just the RB 
is suspended
Which is why it is place in bits 8 - 31 of the ECB

Thanks

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Re: Question on Wait macro

2019-04-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
Only the top RB of a task is active; no work can be performed for the older RBs 
until the older TB goes away or an SVC rearranges the chain, which I believe 
that only one SVC ever did. When the RB goes into a wait state, the task can 
only be dispatched after a POST or adding an asynchronous RB, e.g., SVRB, to 
the chain.

Nit: the word "suspend" in MVS that does not apply to an RB.


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Joseph Reichman 
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Subject: Re: Question on Wait macro

It’s nothing in my code just maybe I have a misunderstanding it was my 
understanding
That a wait suspends the RB not the entire TCB that documentation seems to say 
otherwise the entire TCB is suspended unless I didn’t read right

Thanks





> On Apr 1, 2019, at 9:03 AM, Binyamin Dissen  
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> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 07:54:09 -0400 Joseph Reichman 
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> :>Just looking at the documentation for the wait macro it says “performance 
> of the active task” I was under the impression that the task is active just 
> the RB is suspended
> :>Which is why it is place in bits 8 - 31 of the ECB
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Re: Question on Wait macro

2019-04-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Well, the earlier RBs are already suspended. The unsatisfied WAIT places the
task in the non-dispatchable status. 

It is possible to add an IRB to the task and the task would be dispatchable
and the IRB would run.

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 09:07:18 -0400 Joseph Reichman 
wrote:

:>It’s nothing in my code just maybe I have a misunderstanding it was my 
understanding 
:>That a wait suspends the RB not the entire TCB that documentation seems to 
say otherwise the entire TCB is suspended unless I didn’t read right 

:>> On Apr 1, 2019, at 9:03 AM, Binyamin Dissen  
wrote:
 
:>> What is your question?
 
:>> Show your code that is affected by the issue you perceive.
 
:>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 07:54:09 -0400 Joseph Reichman 
:>> wrote:
 
:>> :>Just looking at the documentation for the wait macro it says “performance 
of the active task” I was under the impression that the task is active just the 
RB is suspended 
:>> :>Which is why it is place in bits 8 - 31 of the ECB

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Re: Question on Wait macro

2019-04-01 Thread Joseph Reichman
It’s nothing in my code just maybe I have a misunderstanding it was my 
understanding 
That a wait suspends the RB not the entire TCB that documentation seems to say 
otherwise the entire TCB is suspended unless I didn’t read right 

Thanks 





> On Apr 1, 2019, at 9:03 AM, Binyamin Dissen  
> wrote:
> 
> What is your question?
> 
> Show your code that is affected by the issue you perceive.
> 
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 07:54:09 -0400 Joseph Reichman 
> wrote:
> 
> :>Just looking at the documentation for the wait macro it says “performance 
> of the active task” I was under the impression that the task is active just 
> the RB is suspended 
> :>Which is why it is place in bits 8 - 31 of the ECB
> 
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Re: Question on Wait macro

2019-04-01 Thread Binyamin Dissen
What is your question?

Show your code that is affected by the issue you perceive.

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 07:54:09 -0400 Joseph Reichman 
wrote:

:>Just looking at the documentation for the wait macro it says “performance of 
the active task” I was under the impression that the task is active just the RB 
is suspended 
:>Which is why it is place in bits 8 - 31 of the ECB

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Re: Question on Wait macro

2019-04-01 Thread Joseph Reichman
I would think there is a new TCBRBP





> On Apr 1, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Tom Marchant 
> <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 07:54:09 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote:
>> 
>> Just looking at the documentation for the wait macro it says “performance of 
>> the active task” I was under the impression that the task is active just the 
>> RB is suspended 
> 
> What do you think it would mean for the task to be active when the RB is 
> suspended?
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Re: Question on Wait macro

2019-04-01 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 07:54:09 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote:

>Just looking at the documentation for the wait macro it says “performance of 
>the active task” I was under the impression that the task is active just the 
>RB is suspended 

What do you think it would mean for the task to be active when the RB is 
suspended?

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