Re: [External] Re: Simple JES2 spool offload question

[Roger Bolan]

Rex,
I don't know how WS=(/JOBNAME=REX*) would work.  I always have *something*
on the left side of the slash.
I guess it would select any jobs that match the pattern first, and then
select everything.  But the left side bothers me.  It could either select
from everything on the spool, or select nothing.


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:12 AM Pommier, Rex 
wrote:

> Hi Roger,
>
> Thanks for pointing that out to me, I missed it when I was looking.  I'm
> still not clear so let me say what I *think* it's saying and you can tell
> me if I'm completely missing the mark.
>
> If the criteria is left of the slash, it's straightforward, to be selected
> by the offloader SYSOUT or jobs need to match all the criteria.  No match,
> no selection.
>
> If the criteria is to the right of the slash, JES2 will look at each
> criterion and if JES2 has something in the spool file that matches that
> particular criterion, JES2 will use that in determining whether or not to
> include the spool item, but if JES2 doesn't find anything that matches the
> particular criterion, it'll ignore the criterion completely?   For example,
> if I have WS=(/JOBNAME=REX*), JES2 will scan through the spool looking for
> jobs that start with REX and if it finds any, that's all it'll offload, but
> if it doesn't find any it'll offload everything (based on any other
> criteria I might have)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rex
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Roger Bolan
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> Subject: [External] Re: Simple JES2 spool offload question
>
> See Tuning work selection criteria
> <
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.hasa300/has2v5_Tuning_work_selection_criteria.htm
> >
> about 2/3 of the way down the page it talks about using JOBNAME to the
> left or right of the slash in more detail.
> --Roger
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 11:25 AM Pommier, Rex 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I have a question that has puzzled me on and off for years regarding
> > the work selection criteria for the JES2 spool offload facility.  That
> > is the use of the slash.  I get the part about criteria left of the
> > slash being required, i.e. if you have JOBNAME=ABCDE and WS=(JOB/)
> > only output from jobs named ABCDE will get selected.  What does it
> > mean that a selection criteria to the right of the slash means it is
> > preferred?  I mean, I would assume JES is either going to select the
> SYSOUT or it isn't.
> >
> > This is from the JES2 init and tuning reference - item 3 is the
> > puzzler to
> > me:
> >
> > A slash can be used within the work selection list to further specify
> > work selection. The use of a slash has the following general meaning:
> > 1) those criterion listing several specifications is prioritized in a
> > left to right priority order when placed to the left of the slash; 2)
> > the placement of a criterion to the left of the slash indicates a
> > required exact match of work selection and job criteria; and 3)
> > placement of a criterion to the right of the slash indicates a
> > preferred (but not required match) of work selection and job criteria.
> >
> > Sounded like a good question for a Friday.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Rex
> >
> >
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Re: [External] Re: Simple JES2 spool offload question

[Pommier, Rex]

Hi Roger,

Thanks for pointing that out to me, I missed it when I was looking.  I'm still 
not clear so let me say what I *think* it's saying and you can tell me if I'm 
completely missing the mark.

If the criteria is left of the slash, it's straightforward, to be selected by 
the offloader SYSOUT or jobs need to match all the criteria.  No match, no 
selection.

If the criteria is to the right of the slash, JES2 will look at each criterion 
and if JES2 has something in the spool file that matches that particular 
criterion, JES2 will use that in determining whether or not to include the 
spool item, but if JES2 doesn't find anything that matches the particular 
criterion, it'll ignore the criterion completely?   For example, if I have 
WS=(/JOBNAME=REX*), JES2 will scan through the spool looking for jobs that 
start with REX and if it finds any, that's all it'll offload, but if it doesn't 
find any it'll offload everything (based on any other criteria I might have)?

Thanks,

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Roger Bolan
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 5:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: Simple JES2 spool offload question

See Tuning work selection criteria
<https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.hasa300/has2v5_Tuning_work_selection_criteria.htm>
about 2/3 of the way down the page it talks about using JOBNAME to the left or 
right of the slash in more detail.
--Roger

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 11:25 AM Pommier, Rex 
wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> I have a question that has puzzled me on and off for years regarding 
> the work selection criteria for the JES2 spool offload facility.  That 
> is the use of the slash.  I get the part about criteria left of the 
> slash being required, i.e. if you have JOBNAME=ABCDE and WS=(JOB/) 
> only output from jobs named ABCDE will get selected.  What does it 
> mean that a selection criteria to the right of the slash means it is 
> preferred?  I mean, I would assume JES is either going to select the SYSOUT 
> or it isn't.
>
> This is from the JES2 init and tuning reference - item 3 is the 
> puzzler to
> me:
>
> A slash can be used within the work selection list to further specify 
> work selection. The use of a slash has the following general meaning: 
> 1) those criterion listing several specifications is prioritized in a 
> left to right priority order when placed to the left of the slash; 2) 
> the placement of a criterion to the left of the slash indicates a 
> required exact match of work selection and job criteria; and 3) 
> placement of a criterion to the right of the slash indicates a 
> preferred (but not required match) of work selection and job criteria.
>
> Sounded like a good question for a Friday.
>
> TIA,
> Rex
>
>
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Re: Simple JES2 spool offload question

[Roger Bolan]

See Tuning work selection criteria

about 2/3 of the way down the page it talks about using JOBNAME to the left
or right of the slash in more detail.
--Roger

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 11:25 AM Pommier, Rex 
wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> I have a question that has puzzled me on and off for years regarding the
> work selection criteria for the JES2 spool offload facility.  That is the
> use of the slash.  I get the part about criteria left of the slash being
> required, i.e. if you have JOBNAME=ABCDE and WS=(JOB/) only output from
> jobs named ABCDE will get selected.  What does it mean that a selection
> criteria to the right of the slash means it is preferred?  I mean, I would
> assume JES is either going to select the SYSOUT or it isn't.
>
> This is from the JES2 init and tuning reference - item 3 is the puzzler to
> me:
>
> A slash can be used within the work selection list to further specify work
> selection. The use of a slash has the following general meaning: 1) those
> criterion listing several specifications is prioritized in a left to right
> priority order when placed to the left of the slash; 2) the placement of a
> criterion to the left of the slash indicates a required exact match of work
> selection and job criteria; and 3) placement of a criterion to the right of
> the slash indicates a preferred (but not required match) of work selection
> and job criteria.
>
> Sounded like a good question for a Friday.
>
> TIA,
> Rex
>
>
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