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Re: Strange Things in JES2

2017-12-06 Thread Mark Zelden

I had a feeling that was it.  :-)

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 17:21:51 +, Christopher Y. Blaicher 
<cblaic...@syncsort.com> wrote:

>Answer is new JES file EVENTLOG.
>
>Chris Blaicher
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>Mainframe Development
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>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
>Behalf Of Mark Zelden
>Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 12:15 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Strange Things in JES2
>
>Is this held output?   What if you use the ST command and "INPUT ON" while 
>looking
>at the DDs with a "?"?  Does that provide a clue?
>
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Mark
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>
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>On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:28:44 +, Christopher Y. Blaicher 
><cblaic...@syncsort.com> wrote:
>
>>I have spoken to the author and he is baffled also.
>>The file you pointed out was allocated in JCL, but never opened, thus the 
>>allocated but unused DSID.
>>I reran the job without the data set and still had extra messages reported, 
>>but fewer by about 400 messages this time.
>>
>>Chris Blaicher
>>Technical Architect
>>Mainframe Development
>>P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803
>>E: cblaic...@syncsort.com
>>
>>Syncsort Incorporated
>>2 Blue Hill Plaza #1563
>>Pearl River, NY 10965
>>www.syncsort.com
>>
>>Data quality leader Trillium Software is now a part of Syncsort.
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
>>On Behalf Of Allan Staller
>>Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 11:27 AM
>>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>Subject: Re: Strange Things in JES2
>>
>>DSID 105 seems to be missing from the JESLOG.
>>GDE message are not IBM JES2, I have no idea what is producing them.
>>I suggest checking w/the vendor that issues the GDE messages.
>>
>>Possible causes?
>>
>>Dynamic allocation of sysout?
>>Under another OUTGRP?
>>Different non-print (or dummy) SYSOUT Class?
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
>>On Behalf Of Christopher Y. Blaicher
>>Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:22 AM
>>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>Subject: Strange Things in JES2
>>
>>I have a job that puts out the following in the JESMSG portion of the listing.
>>
>>-- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --
>>
>>  27 NOV 2017 JOB EXECUTION DATE
>>
>>   35 CARDS READ
>>
>>   76,135 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS
>>
>>0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS
>>
>>   71,517 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES
>>
>> 0.86 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
>>The DATASET DISPLAY panel shows:
>>
>>NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSIDC Dest   Rec-Cnt
>>
>> JESMSGLG JES2 2H LOCAL   20
>>
>> JESJCL   JES2 3H LOCAL   36
>>
>> JESYSMSG JES2 4H LOCAL   59
>>
>> GDE40101 STEP020  STEP010   102H LOCAL   44
>>
>> GDE40102 STEP020  STEP010   103H LOCAL   23
>>
>> GDE40103 STEP020  STEP010   104H LOCAL9
>>
>> GDE40105 STEP020  STEP010   106H LOCAL   33
>>That is a total of 224 records.  Where are the other 75,911 records?  And, no 
>>I didn't delete or purge any output.  I did do a process 100,000 times in the 
>>program, but if it was process related I would expect a print count of 
>>100,224.
>>Just wondering If anyone else has seen strange things like this.
>>Chris Blaicher
>>Technical Architect
>>Mainframe Development
>>P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803
>>E: cblaic...@syncsort.com
>>

Re: Strange Things in JES2

2017-12-06 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher

Answer is new JES file EVENTLOG.

Chris Blaicher
Technical Architect
Mainframe Development
P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803    
E: cblaic...@syncsort.com

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Pearl River, NY 10965
www.syncsort.com

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Mark Zelden
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 12:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Strange Things in JES2

Is this held output?   What if you use the ST command and "INPUT ON" while 
looking
at the DDs with a "?"?  Does that provide a clue?


Best Regards,

Mark
--
Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS ITIL v3 
Foundation Certified mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: 
http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:28:44 +, Christopher Y. Blaicher 
<cblaic...@syncsort.com> wrote:

>I have spoken to the author and he is baffled also.
>The file you pointed out was allocated in JCL, but never opened, thus the 
>allocated but unused DSID.
>I reran the job without the data set and still had extra messages reported, 
>but fewer by about 400 messages this time.
>
>Chris Blaicher
>Technical Architect
>Mainframe Development
>P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803
>E: cblaic...@syncsort.com
>
>Syncsort Incorporated
>2 Blue Hill Plaza #1563
>Pearl River, NY 10965
>www.syncsort.com
>
>Data quality leader Trillium Software is now a part of Syncsort.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
>On Behalf Of Allan Staller
>Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 11:27 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Strange Things in JES2
>
>DSID 105 seems to be missing from the JESLOG.
>GDE message are not IBM JES2, I have no idea what is producing them.
>I suggest checking w/the vendor that issues the GDE messages.
>
>Possible causes?
>
>Dynamic allocation of sysout?
>Under another OUTGRP?
>Different non-print (or dummy) SYSOUT Class?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
>On Behalf Of Christopher Y. Blaicher
>Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:22 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Strange Things in JES2
>
>I have a job that puts out the following in the JESMSG portion of the listing.
>
>-- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --
>
>  27 NOV 2017 JOB EXECUTION DATE
>
>   35 CARDS READ
>
>   76,135 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS
>
>0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS
>
>   71,517 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES
>
> 0.86 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
>The DATASET DISPLAY panel shows:
>
>NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSIDC Dest   Rec-Cnt
>
> JESMSGLG JES2 2H LOCAL   20
>
> JESJCL   JES2 3H LOCAL   36
>
> JESYSMSG JES2 4H LOCAL   59
>
> GDE40101 STEP020  STEP010   102H LOCAL   44
>
> GDE40102 STEP020  STEP010   103H LOCAL   23
>
> GDE40103 STEP020  STEP010   104H LOCAL9
>
> GDE40105 STEP020  STEP010   106H LOCAL   33
>That is a total of 224 records.  Where are the other 75,911 records?  And, no 
>I didn't delete or purge any output.  I did do a process 100,000 times in the 
>program, but if it was process related I would expect a print count of 100,224.
>Just wondering If anyone else has seen strange things like this.
>Chris Blaicher
>Technical Architect
>Mainframe Development
>P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803
>E: cblaic...@syncsort.com
>
>Syncsort Incorporated
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Re: Strange Things in JES2

2017-12-06 Thread Mark Zelden

Is this held output?   What if you use the ST command and "INPUT ON" while 
looking
at the DDs with a "?"?  Does that provide a clue?


Best Regards,

Mark
--
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ITIL v3 Foundation Certified
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 17:28:44 +, Christopher Y. Blaicher 
<cblaic...@syncsort.com> wrote:

>I have spoken to the author and he is baffled also.
>The file you pointed out was allocated in JCL, but never opened, thus the 
>allocated but unused DSID.
>I reran the job without the data set and still had extra messages reported, 
>but fewer by about 400 messages this time.
>
>Chris Blaicher
>Technical Architect
>Mainframe Development
>P: 201-930-8234� |� M: 512-627-3803� ��
>E: cblaic...@syncsort.com
>
>Syncsort Incorporated 
>2 Blue Hill Plaza #1563
>Pearl River, NY 10965
>www.syncsort.com
>
>Data quality leader Trillium Software is now a part of Syncsort.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
>Behalf Of Allan Staller
>Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 11:27 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Strange Things in JES2
>
>DSID 105 seems to be missing from the JESLOG.
>GDE message are not IBM JES2, I have no idea what is producing them.
>I suggest checking w/the vendor that issues the GDE messages.
>
>Possible causes?
>
>Dynamic allocation of sysout?
>Under another OUTGRP?
>Different non-print (or dummy) SYSOUT Class?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
>Behalf Of Christopher Y. Blaicher
>Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:22 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Strange Things in JES2
>
>I have a job that puts out the following in the JESMSG portion of the listing.
>
>-- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --
>
>  27 NOV 2017 JOB EXECUTION DATE
>
>   35 CARDS READ
>
>   76,135 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS
>
>0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS
>
>   71,517 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES
>
> 0.86 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
>The DATASET DISPLAY panel shows:
>
>NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSIDC Dest   Rec-Cnt
>
> JESMSGLG JES2 2H LOCAL   20
>
> JESJCL   JES2 3H LOCAL   36
>
> JESYSMSG JES2 4H LOCAL   59
>
> GDE40101 STEP020  STEP010   102H LOCAL   44
>
> GDE40102 STEP020  STEP010   103H LOCAL   23
>
> GDE40103 STEP020  STEP010   104H LOCAL9
>
> GDE40105 STEP020  STEP010   106H LOCAL   33
>That is a total of 224 records.  Where are the other 75,911 records?  And, no 
>I didn't delete or purge any output.  I did do a process 100,000 times in the 
>program, but if it was process related I would expect a print count of 100,224.
>Just wondering If anyone else has seen strange things like this.
>Chris Blaicher
>Technical Architect
>Mainframe Development
>P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803
>E: cblaic...@syncsort.com
>
>Syncsort Incorporated
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Re: Strange Things in JES2

2017-12-04 Thread Mike Schwab

DSID starting with 102?  Does it start with 101 or even 100?  Is there
an autodelete MSGCLASS (Z)?

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Allan Staller  wrote:
> DSID 105 seems to be missing from the JESLOG.
> GDE message are not IBM JES2, I have no idea what is producing them.
> I suggest checking w/the vendor that issues the GDE messages.
>
> Possible causes?
>
> Dynamic allocation of sysout?
> Under another OUTGRP?
> Different non-print (or dummy) SYSOUT Class?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Y. Blaicher
> Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:22 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Strange Things in JES2
>
> I have a job that puts out the following in the JESMSG portion of the listing.
>
> -- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --
>
>   27 NOV 2017 JOB EXECUTION DATE
>
>35 CARDS READ
>
>76,135 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS
>
> 0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS
>
>71,517 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES
>
>  0.86 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
> The DATASET DISPLAY panel shows:
>
> NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSIDC Dest   Rec-Cnt
>
>  JESMSGLG JES2 2H LOCAL   20
>
>  JESJCL   JES2 3H LOCAL   36
>
>  JESYSMSG JES2 4H LOCAL   59
>
>  GDE40101 STEP020  STEP010   102H LOCAL   44
>
>  GDE40102 STEP020  STEP010   103H LOCAL   23
>
>  GDE40103 STEP020  STEP010   104H LOCAL9
>
>  GDE40105 STEP020  STEP010   106H LOCAL   33
> That is a total of 224 records.  Where are the other 75,911 records?  And, no 
> I didn't delete or purge any output.  I did do a process 100,000 times in the 
> program, but if it was process related I would expect a print count of 
> 100,224.
> Just wondering If anyone else has seen strange things like this.
> Chris Blaicher
> Technical Architect
> Mainframe Development
> P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803
> E: cblaic...@syncsort.com
>
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Re: Strange Things in JES2 - Mystery Solved

2017-12-04 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher

Mystery solved.

I won't go into why so many mystery records occurred, but the answer is with 
z/OS 2.2 they introduced a new semi-hidden file to JES called the EVENTLOG.  
You can only see it from the Status screen with INPUT ON set.  For most jobs it 
is very small.  This process hit the right combination to cause lots of data to 
be written into it.

You can suppress writing to the EVENTLOG by issuing $T 
JOBDEF,SUP_EVENTLOG_SMF=YES

Chris Blaicher
Technical Architect
Mainframe Development
P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803    
E: cblaic...@syncsort.com

Syncsort Incorporated 
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Y. Blaicher
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 12:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Strange Things in JES2

I have spoken to the author and he is baffled also.
The file you pointed out was allocated in JCL, but never opened, thus the 
allocated but unused DSID.
I reran the job without the data set and still had extra messages reported, but 
fewer by about 400 messages this time.

Chris Blaicher
Technical Architect
Mainframe Development
P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803
E: cblaic...@syncsort.com

Syncsort Incorporated
2 Blue Hill Plaza #1563
Pearl River, NY 10965
www.syncsort.com

Data quality leader Trillium Software is now a part of Syncsort.


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Allan Staller
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 11:27 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Strange Things in JES2

DSID 105 seems to be missing from the JESLOG.
GDE message are not IBM JES2, I have no idea what is producing them.
I suggest checking w/the vendor that issues the GDE messages.

Possible causes?

Dynamic allocation of sysout?
Under another OUTGRP?
Different non-print (or dummy) SYSOUT Class?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Y. Blaicher
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:22 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Strange Things in JES2

I have a job that puts out the following in the JESMSG portion of the listing.

-- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --

  27 NOV 2017 JOB EXECUTION DATE

   35 CARDS READ

   76,135 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS

0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS

   71,517 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES

 0.86 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
The DATASET DISPLAY panel shows:

NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSIDC Dest   Rec-Cnt

 JESMSGLG JES2 2H LOCAL   20

 JESJCL   JES2 3H LOCAL   36

 JESYSMSG JES2 4H LOCAL   59

 GDE40101 STEP020  STEP010   102H LOCAL   44

 GDE40102 STEP020  STEP010   103H LOCAL   23

 GDE40103 STEP020  STEP010   104H LOCAL9

 GDE40105 STEP020  STEP010   106H LOCAL   33
That is a total of 224 records.  Where are the other 75,911 records?  And, no I 
didn't delete or purge any output.  I did do a process 100,000 times in the 
program, but if it was process related I would expect a print count of 100,224.
Just wondering If anyone else has seen strange things like this.
Chris Blaicher
Technical Architect
Mainframe Development
P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803
E: cblaic...@syncsort.com

Syncsort Incorporated
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Re: Strange Things in JES2

2017-12-04 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher

I have spoken to the author and he is baffled also.
The file you pointed out was allocated in JCL, but never opened, thus the 
allocated but unused DSID.
I reran the job without the data set and still had extra messages reported, but 
fewer by about 400 messages this time.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Allan Staller
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 11:27 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Strange Things in JES2

DSID 105 seems to be missing from the JESLOG.
GDE message are not IBM JES2, I have no idea what is producing them.
I suggest checking w/the vendor that issues the GDE messages.

Possible causes?

Dynamic allocation of sysout?
Under another OUTGRP?
Different non-print (or dummy) SYSOUT Class?

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Y. Blaicher
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:22 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Strange Things in JES2

I have a job that puts out the following in the JESMSG portion of the listing.

-- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --

  27 NOV 2017 JOB EXECUTION DATE

   35 CARDS READ

   76,135 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS

0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS

   71,517 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES

 0.86 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
The DATASET DISPLAY panel shows:

NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSIDC Dest   Rec-Cnt

 JESMSGLG JES2 2H LOCAL   20

 JESJCL   JES2 3H LOCAL   36

 JESYSMSG JES2 4H LOCAL   59

 GDE40101 STEP020  STEP010   102H LOCAL   44

 GDE40102 STEP020  STEP010   103H LOCAL   23

 GDE40103 STEP020  STEP010   104H LOCAL9

 GDE40105 STEP020  STEP010   106H LOCAL   33
That is a total of 224 records.  Where are the other 75,911 records?  And, no I 
didn't delete or purge any output.  I did do a process 100,000 times in the 
program, but if it was process related I would expect a print count of 100,224.
Just wondering If anyone else has seen strange things like this.
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Re: Strange Things in JES2

2017-12-04 Thread Allan Staller

DSID 105 seems to be missing from the JESLOG.
GDE message are not IBM JES2, I have no idea what is producing them.
I suggest checking w/the vendor that issues the GDE messages.

Possible causes?

Dynamic allocation of sysout?
Under another OUTGRP?
Different non-print (or dummy) SYSOUT Class?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Y. Blaicher
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:22 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Strange Things in JES2

I have a job that puts out the following in the JESMSG portion of the listing.

-- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --

  27 NOV 2017 JOB EXECUTION DATE

   35 CARDS READ

   76,135 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS

0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS

   71,517 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES

 0.86 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
The DATASET DISPLAY panel shows:

NP   DDNAME   StepName ProcStep DSIDC Dest   Rec-Cnt

 JESMSGLG JES2 2H LOCAL   20

 JESJCL   JES2 3H LOCAL   36

 JESYSMSG JES2 4H LOCAL   59

 GDE40101 STEP020  STEP010   102H LOCAL   44

 GDE40102 STEP020  STEP010   103H LOCAL   23

 GDE40103 STEP020  STEP010   104H LOCAL9

 GDE40105 STEP020  STEP010   106H LOCAL   33
That is a total of 224 records.  Where are the other 75,911 records?  And, no I 
didn't delete or purge any output.  I did do a process 100,000 times in the 
program, but if it was process related I would expect a print count of 100,224.
Just wondering If anyone else has seen strange things like this.
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Mainframe Development
P: 201-930-8234  |  M: 512-627-3803
E: cblaic...@syncsort.com

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