Ron,
I must have been in the pre-SMS time.
We do use SMS now.
Kees.
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> Allen,
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> I like to think that most sights would manage this with DFSM
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> Allen,
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> I like to think that most sights would manage this with DFSMS, and define
> a 3390 device as the VIO model.
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> I'm not sure what the smallest supported device type is nowadays, but the
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> The purpose of journaling is to allow a job to be restarted.
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> In order to restart a job which is using VIO, the VIO data sets need
> to be preserved.
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The purpose of journaling is to allow a job to be restarted.
In order to restart a job which is using VIO, the VIO data sets need to be
preserved.
In order for the VIO data sets to be preserved
: Saturday, September 21, 2019 10:16 PM
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If I remember correctly, the limit for a VIO Data set is 65535 tracks.
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> On Sep 21, 2019, at 9:22 PM, Shiv
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> Just for clarification, I've been working with Shivang on this and he's
> since opened a PMR on the problem.
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Shivang,
My first thought is you have not described a problem. Page outs are a response
to memory conditions, but they don't slow anything down. Page-ins and the
page-in rate for all address are indications of a potential problem, and you do
not mention
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If I remember correctly, the limit for a VIO Data set is 65535 tracks.
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> On Sep 21, 2019, at 9:22 PM, Shivang Sharma wrote:
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> Hi ,
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> We
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> If I remember correctly, the limit for a VIO Data set is 65535 tracks.
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Shivang,
My first thought is you have not described a problem. Page outs are a response
to memory conditions, but they don't slow anything down. Page-ins and the
page-in rate for all address are indications of a potential problem, and you do
not mention page-ins.
You said you are no memory
It is normal for VIO to be paged out and it is normal for VIO to not be paged
out; why do you believe that what is happening is abnormal or a problem?
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I'm sure there must be controls but I familiar with them.
You mentioned BDAM. Maybe VIO is not fully compatible with BDAM when it pages
out a VIO block.
As for paging
> On Sunday, September 22, 2019, 02:46:54 AM PDT, Shivang Sharma wrote:
My dataset is less the max limit . VIO has support for BDAM as well.
VIO should not cause a hang. Report the problem to IBM. This will have you take
a dump so they can look at why your jobs are hanging.
Jon.
You haven't described any problem...
ITschak
בתאריך יום א׳, 22 בספט׳ 2019, 12:47, מאת Shivang Sharma :
> Hi,
>
> My dataset is less the max limit . VIO has support for BDAM as well.
> Not sure on what is left to check?
>
> --
Hi,
My dataset is less the max limit . VIO has support for BDAM as well.
Not sure on what is left to check?
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If I remember correctly, the limit for a VIO Data set is 65535 tracks.
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> On Sep 21, 2019, at 9:22 PM, Shivang Sharma wrote:
>
> Hi ,
>
> We are not storage constraint . We hardly page .The idea behind
I'm sure there must be controls but I familiar with them.
You mentioned BDAM. Maybe VIO is not fully compatible with BDAM when it pages
out a VIO block.
As for paging, it will occur even if it's only some. At this point, you are
trying to find the cause. I'm just giving you what could be
Hi ,
We are not storage constraint . We hardly page .The idea behind using VIO is to
reduce hard I/O for BDAM . When you say the file size is excessive is there a
limit ? Job is not looping that's for sure .
Thanks
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On Saturday, September 21, 2019, 12:33:07 PM PDT, Shivang Sharma wrote:
> 3 show VIO being paged out .
Paging VIO is not necessarily a bad thing. Check for excessive amount of data
being written to VIO. Check storage usage for the system. Maybe another address
space is using a lot of
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