Re: Was: X86 server - Competitive economic advantage of System z plus z/OS compared with x86 plus (Linux or windoze)
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:06:13 +0200, Arthur Fichtl wrote: OTOH, if you look at the global big new companies (e.g. Google, Amazon, Facebook), nobody of them is running MF systems because these companies are not captivated by legacy systems. Instead, Google (as known to the public) is running a cluster version of Linux based on commodity machines, Amazon is a pioneer in cloud computing (see: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/08/15/amazon-direct-connect-comes-to-new-york/ ) Which mostly shows a photograph of an empty computer room. They could put anything in there. , and Facebook’s architecture is described here: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/06/27/facebook-server-storage-designs/ What's impressive here is that they don't buy off-the-shelf hardware systems; they design their own. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Was: X86 server - Competitive economic advantage of System z plus z/OS compared with x86 plus (Linux or windoze)
On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Arthur Fichtl wrote: SNIP- OTOH, if you look at the global big new companies (e.g. Google, Amazon, Facebook), nobody of them is running MF systems because these companies are not captivated by legacy systems. Instead, Google (as known to the public) is running a cluster version of Linux based on commodity machines, Amazon is a pioneer in cloud computing (see: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/ archives/2012/08/15/amazon-direct-connect-comes-to-new-york/) , and Facebook’s architecture is described here: http:// www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/06/27/facebook-server- storage-designs/ I can't find it know but I believe it was mentioned on here that Google (maybe others as well) does have a mainframe. Not for search engine stuff but for the business side (payroll etc)... Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Was: X86 server - Competitive economic advantage of System z plus z/OS compared with x86 plus (Linux or windoze)
I saw the same exercise in a pharm. company trying to go from MVS, multiple Lpars to unix. Several millions of $$$ and it was a bustsome applications were difficult to convert Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Aug 26, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 26, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Arthur Fichtl wrote: SNIP- OTOH, if you look at the global big new companies (e.g. Google, Amazon, Facebook), nobody of them is running MF systems because these companies are not captivated by legacy systems. Instead, Google (as known to the public) is running a cluster version of Linux based on commodity machines, Amazon is a pioneer in cloud computing (see: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/08/15/amazon-direct-connect-comes-to-new-york/) , and Facebook’s architecture is described here: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/06/27/facebook-server-storage-designs/ I can't find it know but I believe it was mentioned on here that Google (maybe others as well) does have a mainframe. Not for search engine stuff but for the business side (payroll etc)... Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
