Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 14:01:24 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >It's a full filesystem so /etc wouldn't be appropriate and that would add an >extra 'qualifier' on the path for the users. Instead of entering >/dsfs/txt/hlq/file it would have to be /etc/dsfs/txt/hlq/file. > I consider that the least of hardships. And users will quickly circumvent it with symlinks, environment variables, and scripts. Better, Allocation should support relative pathnames. I had a CMS-centric co-worker who lauded CMS for it's flat filesystem: no qualifiers. I think he got better with OS/2 and CMS got worse with the advent of SFS adding qualifiers. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
It's a full filesystem so /etc wouldn't be appropriate and that would add an extra 'qualifier' on the path for the users. Instead of entering /dsfs/txt/hlq/file it would have to be /etc/dsfs/txt/hlq/file. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:31:22 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >The mount point for dsfs must be /dsfs in the root and if the root filesystem >is replaced there isn't much the site can do but be aware of it in the new >filesystem. > I paid too much attention to "won't be lost" and too little to "please deliver ". Regardless, IBM service shouldn't obliterate site-peculiar additions to '/', especially when one is required by an IBM product. That should be APAR-able, not merely an Idea. Or, the required mount point shoulc be changed to /etc/dsfs. >-Original Message- >From: Of Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:18 PM >> >With the default SMP/E root filesystem please deliver it with a /dsfs >mount point so that it is there and won't be lost with maintenance. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:31:22 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >The mount point for dsfs must be /dsfs in the root and if the root filesystem >is replaced there isn't much the site can do but be aware of it in the new >filesystem. > I paid too much attention to "won't be lost" and too little to "please deliver ". Regardless, IBM service shouldn't obliterate site-peculiar additions to '/', especially when one is required by an IBM product. That should be APAR-able, not merely an Idea. Or, the required mount point shoulc be changed to /etc/dsfs. >-Original Message- >From: Of Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:18 PM >> >With the default SMP/E root filesystem please deliver it with a /dsfs >mount point so that it is there and won't be lost with maintenance. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
The mount point for dsfs must be /dsfs in the root and if the root filesystem is replaced there isn't much the site can do but be aware of it in the new filesystem. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, October 13, 2023 1:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:56:47 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Please review, and vote, for this idea to add the /dsfs as a default >mount point on the IBM z/OS distributions. >https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I- >3868 > Where I read: In the default z/OS distribution predefine empty mount point /dsfs With the default SMP/E root filesystem please deliver it with a /dsfs mount point so that it is there and won't be lost with maintenance. Underreaching. A better requirement would simply be: Don't lose site-defined mount points with maintenance. Doesn't IBM take pains not to regress site changes in /etc? Would /etc/dsfs be a durable mount point; no Idea needed? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS DSFS IBM Idea - please consider voting
On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:56:47 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: >Please review, and vote, for this idea to add the /dsfs as a default mount >point on the IBM z/OS distributions. >https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating-systems.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/ZOS-I-3868 > Where I read: In the default z/OS distribution predefine empty mount point /dsfs With the default SMP/E root filesystem please deliver it with a /dsfs mount point so that it is there and won't be lost with maintenance. Underreaching. A better requirement would simply be: Don't lose site-defined mount points with maintenance. Doesn't IBM take pains not to regress site changes in /etc? Would /etc/dsfs be a durable mount point; no Idea needed? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
