Re: z13s with single CPU able to use SMT?

2019-06-28 Thread Peter Relson
As Parwez correctly pointed out, z/OS's SMT 2 is limited to zIIPs. 
Since you cannot have an LPAR with only a zIIP (you could not IPL it), you 
therefore cannot have an LPAR with only a single CPU running z/OS that is 
able to use SMT. You could write your own operating system that allows 
that.

The doc does not suggest otherwise. The values allowed are shown:
MT_CP_MODE=1
MT_ZIIP_MODE=1|2

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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Re: z13s with single CPU able to use SMT?

2019-06-28 Thread Parwez Hamid
I think this was his response to CPs not supporting SMT 

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Brian Westerman wrote:

>Bummer

About what do you say "bummer"?

TIA!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: z13s with single CPU able to use SMT?

2019-06-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Brian Westerman wrote:

>Bummer

About what do you say "bummer"?

TIA!

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: z13s with single CPU able to use SMT?

2019-06-28 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Agreed
Gadi

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Bummer


Brian

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Re: z13s with single CPU able to use SMT?

2019-06-28 Thread Brian Westerman
Bummer


Brian

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Re: z13s with single CPU able to use SMT?

2019-06-27 Thread Parwez Hamid
SMT is only supported for zIIPs, IFLs and SAPs.

–z13(s) allows following engine types to run in SMT mode
•zIIPs under z/OS
•IFLs under z/VM


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Subject: z13s with single CPU able to use SMT?

Hi,

one of our boxes is a z13s (a model N10 with a single CPU), and supposedly if 
you change LOADxx to add PROCVIEW CORE and add the IEAOPTxx entry of 
MT_CP_MODE=x, it will open up the use of the SMT thread.  If I code 
MT_CP_MODE=2, it gets an error that the value (2) is not within limits.

My "D M=CORE" command shows:

IEE174I 23.27.00 DISPLAY M 793
CORE STATUS: HD=Y   MT=2  MT_MODE: CP=1  zIIP=1
IDST   ID RANGE   VP  ISCM  CPU THREAD STATUS
   +   -0001  M   FE00  +N

CPC ND = 002965.N10.IBM.02.000CD497
CPC SI = 2965.A01.IBM.02.000CD497
 Model: N10
CPC ID = 00
CPC NAME = P00CD497
LP NAME = SBOX   LP ID =  3
CSS ID  = 0
MIF ID  = 3

whereas it used to (before this change) show:

D M=CORE
IEE174I 22.31.01 DISPLAY M 292
CORE STATUS: HD=Y   MT=1
IDST   ID RANGE   VP  ISCM  CPU THREAD STATUS
   +   -  M   FE00  +

CPC ND = 002965.N10.IBM.02.000CD497
CPC SI = 2965.A01.IBM.02.000CD497
 Model: N10
CPC ID = 00
CPC NAME = P00CD497
LP NAME = SBOX   LP ID =  3
CSS ID  = 0
MIF ID  = 3

So it changed MT=2 and appears to have a ID range changed from - to 
-0001, so does that mean I now have 2 threads even though the IEAOPTxx 
setting of MT_CP_MODE=2 fails?

How do I tell if I am actually getting the use of two threads instead of one, 
is there something in RMF that points to this?

Thanks in advance,

Brian

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Re: z13s with single CPU able to use SMT?

2019-06-27 Thread Patrick Loftus
You could try an RMF CPU report, which should show MT information if it is 
enabled.

But the "+N" on your display seems to say the multiple cores are online but not 
available for use, so you wont be using them.  The underlying hardware is 
telling z/OS "no" I guess.

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