Re: zSeries and using cloud for backups
Thanks everyone. That gives me a lot of options, if my management decides to go down this path. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Glenn Wilcock Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 10:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: zSeries and using cloud for backups This message was sent from an external source outside of Western & Southern's network. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the contents are safe. The TS7700C provides a really nice option for what you are being asked to do. You can continue to take the backup copies that you do today, and have the TS7700 seamlessly migrate them out to the cloud for you. Best of both worlds! If you want to go directly to the cloud, the DFSMShsm/dss, DS8K transparent cloud tiering provides the value that 100% of the data movement is performed by the DS8K. None of the disk data passes through Z! DFSMShsm TCT migration has been available for some time. This gives you the capability to create a fast PiT backup on disk with DSS (with FlashCopy, all of the data movement is within disk controller), and then have HSM automatic migration move them to the cloud with tct. So, you get PiT backup copies in the cloud, with none of the data passing through Z. Also, DSS just announced this capability for Full Volume Dump and HSM has a statement of direction to provide the same for it's dump capabilities. DS8K TCT now supports compression when targeting a TS7700. Compression when targeting cloud object storage is in the short term roadmap. The DS8K natively encrypts the data, so that you have the piece of mind that the data was encrypted on your Z platform before it even lands on the ip connection to the cloud. Cloud Tape Connector is another nice IBM option that allows you to spin off a tape copy to cloud. Reach out to me if you would like any more information on any/all of the options and I can connect you with the folks to get you more information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zSeries and using cloud for backups
The TS7700C provides a really nice option for what you are being asked to do. You can continue to take the backup copies that you do today, and have the TS7700 seamlessly migrate them out to the cloud for you. Best of both worlds! If you want to go directly to the cloud, the DFSMShsm/dss, DS8K transparent cloud tiering provides the value that 100% of the data movement is performed by the DS8K. None of the disk data passes through Z! DFSMShsm TCT migration has been available for some time. This gives you the capability to create a fast PiT backup on disk with DSS (with FlashCopy, all of the data movement is within disk controller), and then have HSM automatic migration move them to the cloud with tct. So, you get PiT backup copies in the cloud, with none of the data passing through Z. Also, DSS just announced this capability for Full Volume Dump and HSM has a statement of direction to provide the same for it's dump capabilities. DS8K TCT now supports compression when targeting a TS7700. Compression when targeting cloud object storage is in the short term roadmap. The DS8K natively encrypts the data, so that you have the piece of mind that the data was encrypted on your Z platform before it even lands on the ip connection to the cloud. Cloud Tape Connector is another nice IBM option that allows you to spin off a tape copy to cloud. Reach out to me if you would like any more information on any/all of the options and I can connect you with the folks to get you more information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zSeries and using cloud for backups
model9 got acquired by El Goog. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:05 PM, ITschak Mugzach wrote: > Have a look at MODEL9. I know some clients of us that are using it to > backup to the cloud. > > ITschak > > ITschak Mugzach > |* IronSphere Platform* | *Information Security Continuous Monitoring > for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM comming son * > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 5:54 PM R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: > > > W dniu 05.08.2020 o 16:45, Edgington, Jerry pisze: > > > > > To all, > > > I am being asked about connecting zSeries, both z/OS and z/VM, to a > > > cloud provider, for a "3rd" copy of the zSeries data. I believe there are > > > ways from z/OS using DFSMShsm to access, both read/write, to cloud data. > > > And some type of interface, from the new DS8910. So, I am wondering, is > > > this technically possible? What are the possible connection points? The > > > features a paid features? > > > This is not my choice to backup zSeries data to the cloud, but I am > > > being asked. So, I would love to hear everyone's opinion. > > > For background on equipment and software. Running on z15, with DS8910 > > > and TS7770T, on z/OS v2.3 and z/VM v7.1. > > > > It is possible. > > It is paid feature of IBM VTS, Oracle (STK) VSM and maybe other vendors. > > So, actually mainframe OS is aware of VTS connected to the host, not > > about back-end, which can be a cloud. > > AFAIK all cloud backup is encrypted by default. > > -- > > Radoslaw Skorupka > > Lodz, Poland > > == > > Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: > > > > - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), > > - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub > > zapisałeś na dysku). > > Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może > > wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia > > (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, > > narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. > > > > > > mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, > > www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy > > XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: > > 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na > > 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. > > If you are not the addressee of this message: > > > > - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), > > - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have > > printed out or saved). > > This message may contain legally protected information, which may be > > used > > exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who > > disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar > > action, violates the law and may be penalised. > > > > > > mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 > > Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the > > Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court > > Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital > > amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zSeries and using cloud for backups
AFIK - TS77x0C feature - DS88XX feature - z/OS Cloud Tape Connection Software - HSM option - DFSMS OAM Cloud Stogroup -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zSeries and using cloud for backups
Have a look at MODEL9. I know some clients of us that are using it to backup to the cloud. ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM comming son * On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 5:54 PM R.S. wrote: > W dniu 05.08.2020 o 16:45, Edgington, Jerry pisze: > > To all, > > > > I am being asked about connecting zSeries, both z/OS and z/VM, to a > cloud provider, for a "3rd" copy of the zSeries data. I believe there are > ways from z/OS using DFSMShsm to access, both read/write, to cloud data. > And some type of interface, from the new DS8910. So, I am wondering, is > this technically possible? What are the possible connection points? The > features a paid features? > > > > This is not my choice to backup zSeries data to the cloud, but I am > being asked. So, I would love to hear everyone's opinion. > > > > For background on equipment and software. Running on z15, with DS8910 > and TS7770T, on z/OS v2.3 and z/VM v7.1. > > It is possible. > It is paid feature of IBM VTS, Oracle (STK) VSM and maybe other vendors. > So, actually mainframe OS is aware of VTS connected to the host, not > about back-end, which can be a cloud. > AFAIK all cloud backup is encrypted by default. > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > > > > > == > > Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: > > - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), > - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub > zapisałeś na dysku). > Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może > wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia > (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, > narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. > > mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, > www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy > XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: > 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na > 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. > > If you are not the addressee of this message: > > - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), > - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have > printed out or saved). > This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used > exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who > disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar > action, violates the law and may be penalised. > > mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 > Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the > Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court > Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital > amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zSeries and using cloud for backups
W dniu 05.08.2020 o 16:45, Edgington, Jerry pisze: To all, I am being asked about connecting zSeries, both z/OS and z/VM, to a cloud provider, for a "3rd" copy of the zSeries data. I believe there are ways from z/OS using DFSMShsm to access, both read/write, to cloud data. And some type of interface, from the new DS8910. So, I am wondering, is this technically possible? What are the possible connection points? The features a paid features? This is not my choice to backup zSeries data to the cloud, but I am being asked. So, I would love to hear everyone's opinion. For background on equipment and software. Running on z15, with DS8910 and TS7770T, on z/OS v2.3 and z/VM v7.1. It is possible. It is paid feature of IBM VTS, Oracle (STK) VSM and maybe other vendors. So, actually mainframe OS is aware of VTS connected to the host, not about back-end, which can be a cloud. AFAIK all cloud backup is encrypted by default. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
